SLOW DRAFT PROTOCOL

[DOUGHBOYS]

I don't care about the rule one way or the other. I've never really cared what others do in a draft. And yesterday, I started a draft with 'Anonymous' as one of the drafters.
That said, maybe it's just natural, but I think less of 'Anonymous' while drafting against him. That he's a little bit of a coward. Sure, 'Anonymous' can boast that his picks are all that and a bag of Doritos too, but in the drafting room, he is just one of 15, only less so because in my mind's eye, he is a boy hiding behind mama's skirt. Not bold enough to put picks to his name.
Now, I know that sounds harsh, it's not meant to be, but that's what's in my mind and it can't be helped.

So, even though I welcome 'Anonymous' and know that he has to do this, in his mind to protect his picks, job, taxes, or what have you, I hope you'll pardon me if I think just a little less of you.

[Gekko]

Why people may choose to play under Anonymous...
1. Protect their picks
2. Protect their identity from public consumption
3. Protect themselves from direct badgering if they take 6,7, or 8 hours with their slow draft picks

And if you wanted to eliminate "Anonymous", either those people won't play or they will sign up using a friend's name. For me personally, next month I might just choose the route of signing up via a friend. That way, there is no "Anonymous" and my goal will be reached (protect my picks).

Again, ANYONE has the option of playing under "Anonymous".

[rockitsauce]

I don't care about the rule one way or the other. I've never really cared what others do in a draft. And yesterday, I started a draft with 'Anonymous' as one of the drafters.
That said, maybe it's just natural, but I think less of 'Anonymous' while drafting against him. That he's a little bit of a coward. Sure, 'Anonymous' can boast that his picks are all that and a bag of Doritos too, but in the drafting room, he is just one of 15, only less so because in my mind's eye, he is a boy hiding behind mama's skirt. Not bold enough to put picks to his name.
Now, I know that sounds harsh, it's not meant to be, but that's what's in my mind and it can't be helped.

So, even though I welcome 'Anonymous' and know that he has to do this, in his mind to protect his picks, job, taxes, or what have you, I hope you'll pardon me if I think just a little less of you.

I agree completely.

In fact the only thing I don't like about these last few posts are that they are dealing w/ this anonymous issue in my stupid slow draft thread. Please let it die. If you must persist, couldn't a new thread been started. I feel like I've upset Dad and y'all carrying on in THIS thread is NOT appreciated. Take it outside dammit

[Gekko]

[Greg Ambrosius]

I think we'd all like our winnings to be paid to a fake name with no social security number so that we don't have to pay taxes. But the real person will have to pay the IRS if or when he/she wins prize money.

Glenn, the owner known as ANONYMOUS in the draft you're not in has already been identified as a fake name. Whether that's ANONYMOUS or LeMark or as I stated in the post you highlighted is Joe Smith isn't the point here. He's been identified as someone other than himself and again there is an ANONYMOUS in Slow Draft #4 and #5 and they are two different people doing this for apparently two different reasons.

You don't understand their reasons, Dan doesn't, others don't and most don't care. They're here to draft and win this league and the overall title. They're not here to scout others' picks. Fault me for allowing some folks to compete and not want their picks known, but nobody currently in those leagues is complaining about it. In fact, they all knew someone wanted to remain anonymous and still signed up and last I could tell they could care less who these two owners are.

[Gekko]

there is an ANONYMOUS in Slow Draft #4 and #5 and they are two different people doing this for apparently two different reasons.

We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We are everyone.
We are everywhere.
We are you.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.

The NFBC is our world, and we’re taking it back.

Expect us.

[Gekko]

I think we'd all like our winnings to be paid to a fake name with no social security number so that we don't have to pay taxes. But the real person will have to pay the IRS if or when he/she wins prize money.

Glenn, the owner known as ANONYMOUS in the draft you're not in has already been identified as a fake name. Whether that's ANONYMOUS or LeMark or as I stated in the post you highlighted is Joe Smith isn't the point here. He's been identified as someone other than himself and again there is an ANONYMOUS in Slow Draft #4 and #5 and they are two different people doing this for apparently two different reasons.

You don't understand their reasons, Dan doesn't, others don't and most don't care. They're here to draft and win this league and the overall title. They're not here to scout others' picks. Fault me for allowing some folks to compete and not want their picks known, but nobody currently in those leagues is complaining about it. In fact, they all knew someone wanted to remain anonymous and still signed up and last I could tell they could care less who these two owners are.

Probably the best post in the thread.

[Gekko]

In fact the only thing I don't like about these last few posts are that they are dealing w/ this anonymous issue in my stupid slow draft thread. Please let it die. If you must persist, couldn't a new thread been started. I feel like I've upset Dad and y'all carrying on in THIS thread is NOT appreciated. Take it outside dammit

did u make it out of the first round yet??

[Greg Ambrosius]

One last thing I'll say about this subject (and I agree with David, why are we discussing this topic in this thread?) is that we are the only contest that lists every owner for every event within the Message Boards. People who sign up for contests don't ask for that; I just do it. Originally, I did it for transparent reasons so that folks could see how many signups for each event we really had, rather than hearing that "we're half full" and fake stuff like that. Now my transparency is more revealing than any other contest. In any other contest, you can just sign up under any name and nobody would know. What I'm trying to do here with ANONYMOUS is let folks know who is using a fake name and doesn't want to be identified. If I didn't list the names of owners in that event, we wouldn't even be addressing this "problem."

Right now we don't have any ANONYMOUS owners listed for the live events. It's obvious that some owners (there is more than one) want to draft early on and not have others see their picks. I think we all know that Slow Draft results are being shared a lot within NFBC groups and so I do understand the reason for obscurity. I wish I wasn't in the middle of that, but I understand. And so we have some veteran known NFBC owners trying to compete early and often without everyone passing their picks around.

So we all agreed upon ANONYMOUS. Now it's a problem? We're too transparent again? Why are we discussing this topic in this thread again?

[BK METS]

FYI - We are in round 20 of our slow draft which started just before Christmas. Considering we had to make it through the holidays, we are going strong. There are some frustrating moments, including 1 owner refusing to go on auto at 2:00 AM when he was 2 picks away, then he doesnt show for his pick before 10:00 AM the next day, and he goes on auto pick anyways.. But, everyone in the room is on the same page and understands that this is a slow draft and as anxious as some of us are, we will finish the draft in a total of 3 +/- weeks. If there are some of you that are skipping the slow drafts, you are missing a lot of fun and great competition, since some of the best are drafting in these slow drafts and a lot of insight in the chat room (along with a lot of trash talk)... I love it... The best thing about it, to me, is the slowness. It drags out the draft experience and makes the baseball season get here a lot sooner. You just have to understand that people have lives and circumstances. I don't believe there is anyone who is purposely using their 8 hours. We all want to draft or we wouldnt have signed up.

[Glenneration X]

Greg, it got brought up again because the way I remembered the new rule, I thought it was being bypassed when it became apparant that "Lemark" was a false name. Once I went back and read the rule more carefully, I realized that I misunderstood the rule initially and now that I understand it properly, personally do not like what the rule allows. The allowing of aliases is a personal peeve, I do not like it and once the practice was made public, I've never hidden that dislike nor my reasons for disliking it. The realization of what the rule actually allows brought that to the surface again and I allowed my personal dislike for it to cause me to air my grievances again.

However, I did say that I realize this rule is in place for 2012 and that I would leave it at that. I now again will leave it at that. It is what it is for this year whether I personally like it or not.

[Greg Ambrosius]

Greg, it got brought up again because the way I remembered the new rule, I thought it was being bypassed when it became apparant that "Lemark" was a false name. Once I went back and read the rule more carefully, I realized that I misunderstood the rule initially and now that I understand it properly, personally do not like what the rule allows. The allowing of aliases is a personal peeve, I do not like it and once the practice was made public, I've never hidden that dislike nor my reasons for disliking it. The realization of what the rule actually allows brought that to the surface again and I allowed my personal dislike for it to cause me to air my grievances again.

However, I did say that I realize this rule is in place for 2012 and that I would leave it at that. I now again will leave it at that. It is what it is for this year whether I personally like it or not.

Nothing had changed from what we all agreed to in October, so yes, I was surprised that some were upset again. And when you copied my statement, it's exactly what we're doing. He's ANONYMOUS within the signup thread and there's a name there within the draft room. The name doesn't matter; it's not like last year where folks thought that LeMark was a newbie and later found out it was an NFBC veteran. EVERYONE now knows he's an alias. It's the transparency we agreed to in October.

If there's nothing new, I think David wants this thread to go away. Slow Drafts are going well, our one owner who caused this problem was out of the country and jumped into the draft room before his second pick and baseball is getting nearer by the day. Let's Play Ball!!

[Baseball Furies]

2 guys, TWO are going to time out in the 1st rd, call me impatient all u want, i'm calling BS

I hope this is a joke or an exaggeration. If not...OUCH!

No joke. We're livin' this nightmare as I write this. Another owner about to time out in the overnight after being on the clock for four hours during prime time this evening...

[Baseball Furies]

It would be awesome if you could be instantly alerted via cell phone about when your on the clock.

You are alerted via email, and if you know you are in the middle of a draft, at the very least you can check your email

In this modern era of smart phones, I think that most people are getting or can get their emails immediately no matter where they are and use the HTML draft room option to make picks without having to have Flash. And this coming from a relative dinosaur when it comes to mobile or any other technology for that matter.

[Gekko]

so out of all of this, Kowalski lives on!!!!! i double dare an "Anonymous" drafter to pull a "Kowalski"

[MadCow Sez]

It would be awesome if you could be instantly alerted via cell phone about when your on the clock.

You are alerted via email, and if you know you are in the middle of a draft, at the very least you can check your email

This would be a great idea if you could check personal email at work. Some jobs don't lend themselves to it.

I post when in/when heading out, also how long until I expect to return. Peeps just gonna have to wait.

[Lunatic]

Where can I sign up for one of these Slow Drafts?

[Lunatic]

Where can I sign up for one of these Slow Drafts?

Hmmm, looked at the time of this post and thought I was in the Twilight Zone