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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:13 am

The obvious discussion point is Ryan Braun going to ESPN's Eric Karabell at No. 42 overall. He went with the 12th pick of the 3rd round. Knowing that a suspension of 50 games is possible, would you take him that high? Better yet, where do you think he will go if the suspension remains at 50 games?

I felt if he went late 4th round I might take him, but I didn't expect him to get to No. 57. Thoughts?
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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by whipsaw » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:26 am

Here are the rosters based on those picks:

Pianowski

Jose Bautista
Shane Victorino
Victor Martinez
Chase Utley
Desmond Jennings
Stephen Strasburg

Flowers

Matt Kemp
Cliff Lee
Josh Hamilton
Paul Konerko
Michael Young
Dustin Ackley

Liss

Albert Pujols
Clayton Kershaw
Starlin Castro
Alex Gordon
Buster Posey
Ichiro Suzuki

Ambrosius

Miguel Cabrera
Andrew McCutchen
Tim Lincecum
Jay Bruce
Aramis Ramirez
Yovani Gallardo

Zola

Troy Tulowitzki
Carl Crawford
Jered Weaver
Nelson Cruz
Brett Lawrie
Jon Lester

Thompson

Evan Longoria
Felix Hernandez
Carlos Santana
Michael Bourn
Matt Wieters
Adam Jones

Moyer

Joey Votto
Mike Stanton
Pablo Sandoval
Dan Uggla
Alex Avila
Jed Lowrie

Gardner

Justin Upton
Justin Verlander
Adrian Beltre
Brandon Phillips
Shin-Soo Choo
Mike Morse

Halpin

Jacoby Ellsbury
Roy Halladay
Ben Zobrist
Eric Hosmer
Asdrubal Cabrera
J.J. Hardy

Kreutzer

Carlos Gonzalez
Ryan Zimmerman
Hunter Pence
Jimmy Rollins
Joe Mauer
Howie Kendrick

DVR

Robinson Cano
Jose Reyes
Mike Napoli
Alex Rodriguez
David Price
Craig Kimbrel

Karabell

Adrian Gonzalez
Dustin Pedroia
Ryan Braun
C.C. Sabathia
Miguel Montero
Lance Berkman

Erickson

Prince Fielder
Curtis Granderson
Brian McCann
Cole Hamels
Jason Heyward
Brett Gardner

Heaney

Mark Teixeria
David Wright
Elvis Andrus
Rickie Weeks
Zack Greinke
B.J. Upton

Michaels

Hanley Ramirez
Ian Kinsler
Kevin Youkilis
Matt Holliday
Dan Haren
Matt Cain

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by whipsaw » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:39 am

I like where Lawr was going with his team... Holliday at the end of the 4th probably isn't my style but I see what he's doing. Big BA cushion going into the later rounds, and he picked up a couple of cheaper aces in the 5th and 6th. Love the foundation of that team.

Biggest head scratchers for me were Avila in the 5th and Lowrie in the 6th. Seems way too early to me and I think someone was trying to be cute for the blogs.

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by southpaw23 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:50 pm

Yeah, Lowrie in the 6th is a head scratcher and Stras lasting until end of the 6th is a shocker for me.

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by Red Sox Nation- » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:47 pm

Jed Lowrie Round 6!!! WOW Are you kidding me?

Maybe he thought he was drafting Brett Lawrie who was already taken? I hope so at least

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Post by Hells Satans » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:06 pm

southpaw23 wrote:Yeah, Lowrie in the 6th is a head scratcher and Stras lasting until end of the 6th is a shocker for me.
Strasburg will be interesting. How much do you want to pay for a 170 inning 10-12 win pitcher who they will be SUPER conservative with in regard to pitch count and how deep he goes into games?

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Post by Edwards Kings » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:35 am

Greg Ambrosius wrote:The obvious discussion point is Ryan Braun going to ESPN's Eric Karabell at No. 42 overall. He went with the 12th pick of the 3rd round. Knowing that a suspension of 50 games is possible, would you take him that high? Better yet, where do you think he will go if the suspension remains at 50 games?

I felt if he went late 4th round I might take him, but I didn't expect him to get to No. 57. Thoughts?
We will obviously know before the last of the Main Event Drafts, but if I were slowdrafting or in one of the other early drafts, Ryan Braun I would have no problem taking him in the first round, but given opportunity cost, I would try to take him the round before his current ADP.

My mantra has always been not to gamble in the first round, but I learned a long time ago (more specifically when Rey Diaz was the one in our league who was willing to take the bet on Pujols when all the press was about his elbow) not to draft with blinders on. In short, never say never on taking a chance and Braun is such a talent (even without Fielder) that I would jump on him early. And I think he will beat the wrap.
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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by shazballz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:07 am

Edwards Kings wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:The obvious discussion point is Ryan Braun going to ESPN's Eric Karabell at No. 42 overall. He went with the 12th pick of the 3rd round. Knowing that a suspension of 50 games is possible, would you take him that high? Better yet, where do you think he will go if the suspension remains at 50 games?

I felt if he went late 4th round I might take him, but I didn't expect him to get to No. 57. Thoughts?
We will obviously know before the last of the Main Event Drafts, but if I were slowdrafting or in one of the other early drafts, Ryan Braun I would have no problem taking him in the first round, but given opportunity cost, I would try to take him the round before his current ADP.

My mantra has always been not to gamble in the first round, but I learned a long time ago (more specifically when Rey Diaz was the one in our league who was willing to take the bet on Pujols when all the press was about his elbow) not to draft with blinders on. In short, never say never on taking a chance and Braun is such a talent (even without Fielder) that I would jump on him early. And I think he will beat the wrap.

I am leaning the other way on this. Even if it was a prescribed med that caused the high reading, doesn't MLB require you tell them of everything you have been taking? If so cheating or not the suspension may stand.

That said I want to tell the guys in the 150 slow #3 that I an often wrong and please feel free to pick Braun in the first 10 picks. 8-)

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by shazballz » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:36 am

Another thing that strikes me as strange from this Mock is the number of catchers taken in the first 6 rounds. I know it's a weak position and all, but I would have trouble taking Wieters, Avila, Mauer ect. when there are other players that seem more productive and reliable that early.

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Post by Edwards Kings » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:49 am

shazballz wrote:Another thing that strikes me as strange from this Mock is the number of catchers taken in the first 6 rounds. I know it's a weak position and all, but I would have trouble taking Wieters, Avila, Mauer ect. when there are other players that seem more productive and reliable that early.
I agree here totally. Runs (catcher runs, closer runs, speed runs) are funny things. You always have to have a plan B if you miss on the guys you were targeting later due to the draft "lemmings" effect!

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by Rey » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:27 pm

Edwards Kings wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:The obvious discussion point is Ryan Braun going to ESPN's Eric Karabell at No. 42 overall. He went with the 12th pick of the 3rd round. Knowing that a suspension of 50 games is possible, would you take him that high? Better yet, where do you think he will go if the suspension remains at 50 games?

I felt if he went late 4th round I might take him, but I didn't expect him to get to No. 57. Thoughts?
We will obviously know before the last of the Main Event Drafts, but if I were slowdrafting or in one of the other early drafts, Ryan Braun I would have no problem taking him in the first round, but given opportunity cost, I would try to take him the round before his current ADP.

My mantra has always been not to gamble in the first round, but I learned a long time ago (more specifically when Rey Diaz was the one in our league who was willing to take the bet on Pujols when all the press was about his elbow) not to draft with blinders on. In short, never say never on taking a chance and Braun is such a talent (even without Fielder) that I would jump on him early. And I think he will beat the wrap.
Holy smokes Wayne, you have one amazing memory!

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Post by Edwards Kings » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:01 am

Sad, but true, Rey! :D I can remember some things like that, but most days I just call my children "Thing 1" and "Thing 2"!

I think I remember that move so much because, if memory serves, you had the best offense in the Main that year. The Pujols pick was just one reason of many. Ahh, those halcyon days in Florida!
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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by Rey » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:57 pm

Where are you drafting this year Wayne? I'll be in Vegas the first weekend (wanted to catch the 1st round of the NCAA tourney).

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Re: Rotowire.com Magazine Draft Today

Post by Edwards Kings » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:19 pm

Rey wrote:Where are you drafting this year Wayne? I'll be in Vegas the first weekend (wanted to catch the 1st round of the NCAA tourney).
Damn! I am Vegas as well but second weekend. Doing the Auction and the Main Championships (so far)! Looks like I will miss my chance to buy you a cold one.
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