Pre-Spring Training Blues

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Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by Edwards Kings » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:21 am

Finally it is February. The same month where baseball wakes up, does the proverbial nut-scratch, and gets back to playing. I really envy you Arizona and Florida guys who are able to get a six-week jump on the rest of us.

Normally for me, this is when prep for the NFBC hits high gear. Not this year though. My job really reeks right now and is “in-transition” which of course means I am out. I will have a new job somewhere, sometime mid-year when this gig ends. It is a shame too because it was pretty cool here for a very long time. Oh well, with “transition” comes a lot of down time which means I have been in high gear looking at the 2012 campaign for some time now.

That being said (or written), I have finished my rankings of the players. For base information, I use prior year stats and Baseball HQ projections to start me on my rankings though this year I have also looked at Todd and the Masterball team’s excellent work too as well as The Bill James Handbook. To me, three primary sources is the max I can assimilate but this year I went a little overboard. There are some consistencies to my approach, but each year I also run down a few different bunny trails.

I generally do not use stuff from the newsstand. They are typically too general, aimed at guys who have 8-team mixed superstar leagues and where Elvis Andrus is a “sleeper”. Boredom has driven me to pick up a couple this year despite myself and for material to take with me to the men’s room. Lindy’s Sports Baseball 2012 Preview is actually a nice read but by no means waste your money on Sporting News Fantasy Source. It is not even worth leaving in the can to be used for “emergency” situations.

Anyway, I lump the players into groups pretty much I imagine how most do…OF, C, MI, CM, SP and CL/MR. With so many players with multiple positions, to me it is counter productive to break down further (i.e. SS, 2B, 1B, 3B). And I ignore DH’s. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, there are just not that many who qualify only as a DH. I know Ortiz, Butler, Hafner, and Montero are there, but lack of position limits my roster flexibility too much. I know some think Montero will get at least 10 games in at catcher, and he might. With Olivo (pre-season noise from Wedge says he is the starter) and Jaso on the roster, I just do not know when. Here is a good betting idea…who gets qualification first? Jesus Montero at catcher or Mark Trumbo at third? Over/under anyone? My bet is never and never.

After competing at this level (or I should say against this level) for so long, no earth shattering revelations jumped up. Almost everyone agrees that third base is just about as dry as catcher this year. This is the second year it has been so bad in my opinion. Last year people were jumping on McGehee in the top 10 rounds because it was so thin. This year, the “irrational exuberance” is tied to Lawrie who is generally being drafted in the third/fourth round, just turned 22, broke a finger in September, and has 150 AB of major league experience. I may be all wet about this guy, but that is just panic buying to me. I think, however, that those who can poach a proven contributor at the position early will be able to sit back on their heals and giggle at the rest of us as we squeak out “Chipper Jones” late.

For the snake draft, I have the players ranked and placed in levels broken down by differences of 5 “units” roughly approximating auction value. Strictly speaking, I do not use the same numbers for my auctions that I do with my snake drafts. Using auction values in a snake draft is like mixing anti-freeze with motor oil. They are related, but serve different functions in the machine. Auction values are driven as much by tactics (stars versus scrubs for example) and snake drafts are more about opportunity cost. My snake draft numbers are more about relative ranking than about resource allocation or price.

Then, I take those values and break MI and CM into four general tiers, catcher two, outfield six, starting pitching seven, and relievers three. The reason why is pretty obvious given the make up of our starting 23.

In essence, this becomes my starting point for all the subsequent tweaking. Now all I need is to follow the spring training activities…injuries, trades, free agent acquisitions, and general batting orders, especially as it has to do with lead-off hitters, #3 hitters, and clean-up hitters. Those positions in the batting order GENERALLY do not change except via injury. At least that is what I learned in Fantasy Camp at the “Getting the most AB out of your roster!” seminar.

But with so much time on my hands, I will now be digging deeper into some of my projections. This may be dangerous because I am one of those people who sometimes forget an AB is just an AB, so I could outsmart myself trying to outsmart the people in my league.

A few other general impressions. One, the dearth of quality defensive catchers in starting roles means that stolen bases will stay at the high level we have now as opposed to four or five years ago. It may not go up, but I do not think stolen bases will decline appreciably.

Second, much of what I have read has given me the impression that most think that outfield is a deep position. I just do not see it. After my top 45 at that position, I think it gets real scary. By the time most get even to their fourth outfielders, the available players will rank not much different than the lower level of guys I would consider for my middle-infielder position.

I have a few others, but I should not give away all my “secrets”! :lol: Please accept these dribblings as what they are…an exercise in my boredom.
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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:29 pm

Well done, Wayne.
February is the longest short month of the year. Especially with this being such a mild winter for those across America, it seems like baseball should be starting in earnest now.
I thought of you as I picked up a stat the other day. Here it is....

On average for the Major Leagues, the top hitter in the lineup gets 17 more plate appearances than the second hitter.
The second hitter gets 17 more at bats than the third hitter, and so on and so on.....
So, in the National League, a leadoff hitter will get 119 more plate appearances than an eighth hitter will.
In the American League, a leadoff hitter will get 136 more plate appearances than the 9-hole hitter.

Just to relieve some boredom...

With these stats in mind, there is a player who had more than half his at bats in the seven, eight, and nine spots in the batting order.
He hit only .259, hit only seven home runs, and had only 36 rbi...
Yet is consistently going in the sixth or seventh rounds in a lot of drafts.
Who is he?
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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by Ando » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:39 pm

Brett Gardner!
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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by Edwards Kings » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:55 pm

Glad you liked it.

You wonder if the Yanks think he has matured enough to get his OBP up above .350? Still, he did have 510 AB last year and those 49 SB really stand out and that is what is driving his current ADP. If he gets to bat lead-off, he will undoubtedly rise in the pecking order. Total "Judy" though...no power, will take a walk! He hits a lot of balls in the ground, but I wonder at his BA. Makes good contact and has about a 20% line-drive rate. You would think his BA would be higher.
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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by headhunters » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:05 pm

key to doughs post is "on average". big, big diff- 8th on padres vs 8th on yanks. gardner is a- i built my power, i have 2 sp's, time to take my speed, pick. nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:30 pm

Not much for Judy's, but a two category Judy with highest hopes of three categories, just does not appeal to me in single numbered rounds.
I think being a Yankee has a lot to do with it, but that is also the very thing that keeps him from being a full time lead off hitter.

Here's my reckoning and you fellas can attack if need be....
Brett Gardner will only benefit us in three categories. Last year, it was only two. Being a hitter, he will be along side 13 other hitters in our lineup garnering 350 at bats a week.

Why is Gardner a more important get in the sixth or seventh round than a Tim Hudson in the 12th round?
We know we'll get three categories out of Hudson, possibly three and a half.
We only have eight other pitchers with him and 70 innings per week.

Are we paying the extra price for Gardner because he is superlative in one category, while Hudson is consistent in all of his?
The same can be said for Michael Bourn. He is being taken in the third and fourth rounds. Like Gardner, at most, we're going to fill three categories with him.
Now, who is a better pick, Michael Bourn or Mariano Rivera?
Rivera is superlative in one category, and is a help in two others. He can be had sometimes as late as six or seven rounds after Bourn.

Is it the nature of our beast? The hitting before pitching mentality? The need for speed?
Emilio Bonifacio and Ben Revere had over 30 stolen bases in what amounted to half a season.
Coco Crisp tied Gardner in stolen bases and beat him in three of the other four categories.
Eric Young Jr. had 27 stolen bases in just 198 at bats.

Gardner's superlative category is available in faab. Hudson's 33 starts compiling good numbers in three and a half categories are almost non-existent there.
I am using Gardner and Hudson's name for sake of argument. I know that Hudson had back surgery and some can be leery of taking him. Just replace his name with Hellickson, if you'd like.

Just some thoughts while I cuss Mother Nature and Father Time for adding another day before our drafts!
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Re: Pre-Spring Training Blues

Post by Edwards Kings » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:50 am

Still too much time on my hands. Feel a bit like information overload. Feeling woozy...

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