How Many Days In Advance Do You Want Draft Picks?

[Baseball Furies]

Doesn't matter to me as much in baseball as there is not as much potential for drastic change to how your team will be shaped in the early rounds. Obviously there can be some important information though, so my vote would be close to the deadline. I voted for 24-48 hours in advance. Comes down to if this enjoyment and looking forward to knowing your pick is honestly a valid reason for making us use incomplete information when setting KDS. I understand it is more complicated and complex to prepare for baseball, so it isn't that big of a deal.

But here is food for thought. How hard did Hosmer move in the final week last year? If you liked him and tried to devise a plan to acquire him at a certain point, you were SOL by the time the draft rolled around. I don't like that. I prefer to have live, current information when making this very important decision. To me, curiousity and entertainment should not matter at all.

I think a hard 48 hour rule is appropriate for baseball due to more complexity in preparation. Gives people ample time to do one last thorough plan of attack if they choose. 24 is more appropriate for football to enable some drafts to be set after the game.

There are some advantages to an auto set time that it runs. For instance, 48 hours. You know exactly when your KDS is due. You know exactly when it is ran and you can go on and see your selection. There is not searching around, to see when what is due at what time to take advantage of as much time as you can have.

I realize that people are sometimes unwilling to change. The question is, is the reason for not wanting to a valid one? I don't necessarily think so, but again this is a WAY more important deal in football. Baseball the first two or three picks do not make or break you near as much since the season is so long and you start so many more players.

In summary it is my belief that KDS and early draft announcements are conflicting in nature. If KDS is to be used effectively, shouldn't people be able to use it with current information in relation to their draft? After all it is a pretty important decision. Seem to me the anticipation of finding out is why people want it early. Ask yourself, is that really a good reason? That does still happen at some point after all. And league announcements can still come as normal.

I don't know about you Chad but I sure don't want to be cramming a draft plan into 24-48 before the draft while I'm traveling, etc. You really don't have enough information to set your KDS until right before the draft in baseball? How is it not a bigger benefit to have a week to make a draft plan in comparison to worrying about the few players whose value will drastically change 5 days later?

DRAFT PLAN?! WTF are you talking about, Joey? In these Vegas leagues with this type of competition, you might as well throw your draft plans out the window, because as you have witnessed first hand sitting next to me in AC a couple years back, the best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry, don't they? Let's just pick the damn spots live and draft blindfolded with pencil and paper only and no cheat sheets...well, maybe not blindfolded.

[Baseball Furies]

" We did live KDS for Mike's Super league last year. I don't recall anyone melting down."


Tom: This excludes MTM's in season meltdown.

Tom, please excuse Magner. He's confusing "meltdown" with the tuna melts and other cheese-related products he consumes daily in mass quantities which are currently assisting to his hasten his personal collapse.

[Baseball Furies]

Well, it is the same thing. You cannot get your draft pick early and set your KDS with the most current information. The more one gives way, the more the other has to give way. I think in a perfect world we would somehow be able to know where we draft before we have to have our KDS set. That is impossible though. It isn't that big of a deal though in baseball. Although Glenn does bring up a great point. If I have in a draft with Lindy, Steve and Shawn(many more phenominal players just using the hall of famers) it would be kind of nice to be able to avoid them if I so choose. I would actually like the option of finding out the day of. However, I think that would be a difficult task for the NFFC to accomplish smoothly. So I voted for the 24-48 which seems more feasible. In the satellite leagues, I would love it to go to the on the spot situation. Would be a much less daunting task for the NFBC gang in those.

But again, this isn't that big of a deal in baseball. I just hope it gets changed for football where it is much more important and things change so much more the last week. Baseball is so much more complex we can all adapt and deal with whatever the deadline is. It isn't that big of a deal. Still don't think that the idea of some sort of anticipation or tradition of finding out a week early is a valid reason to keep it as is though. The decision should be made based on need for preparation versus having current information to make the all important decision of where to set your draft position.

Whatever is decided works for me in baseball though. Not that big of a deal as long as I can find out some before I have to set others to start a few big leagues differently.

I also wonder how different the results would be if the poll was worded "How long to do want to be able to set your KDS prior to your draft?" At first glance, why wouldn't people vote to have their spot earlier?

Chad- What do you mean? This isn't a poll to set your KDS a week before you get your draft spot, it's about getting your draft spot a week before the event...so exactly, why wouldn't you want your spot earlier? I'm not sure what you are saying.

Chad,
I'm really looking forward to meeting you in Vegas...particularly so that I can have you help with me with my doctoral thesis which you have obviously proved here that you are quite adept at writing.

[Cobb]

Doesn't matter to me as much in baseball as there is not as much potential for drastic change to how your team will be shaped in the early rounds. Obviously there can be some important information though, so my vote would be close to the deadline. I voted for 24-48 hours in advance. Comes down to if this enjoyment and looking forward to knowing your pick is honestly a valid reason for making us use incomplete information when setting KDS. I understand it is more complicated and complex to prepare for baseball, so it isn't that big of a deal.

But here is food for thought. How hard did Hosmer move in the final week last year? If you liked him and tried to devise a plan to acquire him at a certain point, you were SOL by the time the draft rolled around. I don't like that. I prefer to have live, current information when making this very important decision. To me, curiousity and entertainment should not matter at all.

I think a hard 48 hour rule is appropriate for baseball due to more complexity in preparation. Gives people ample time to do one last thorough plan of attack if they choose. 24 is more appropriate for football to enable some drafts to be set after the game.

There are some advantages to an auto set time that it runs. For instance, 48 hours. You know exactly when your KDS is due. You know exactly when it is ran and you can go on and see your selection. There is not searching around, to see when what is due at what time to take advantage of as much time as you can have.

I realize that people are sometimes unwilling to change. The question is, is the reason for not wanting to a valid one? I don't necessarily think so, but again this is a WAY more important deal in football. Baseball the first two or three picks do not make or break you near as much since the season is so long and you start so many more players.

In summary it is my belief that KDS and early draft announcements are conflicting in nature. If KDS is to be used effectively, shouldn't people be able to use it with current information in relation to their draft? After all it is a pretty important decision. Seem to me the anticipation of finding out is why people want it early. Ask yourself, is that really a good reason? That does still happen at some point after all. And league announcements can still come as normal.

I don't know about you Chad but I sure don't want to be cramming a draft plan into 24-48 before the draft while I'm traveling, etc. You really don't have enough information to set your KDS until right before the draft in baseball? How is it not a bigger benefit to have a week to make a draft plan in comparison to worrying about the few players whose value will drastically change 5 days later?

DRAFT PLAN?! WTF are you talking about, Joey? In these Vegas leagues with this type of competition, you might as well throw your draft plans out the window, because as you have witnessed first hand sitting next to me in AC a couple years back, the best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry, don't they? Let's just pick the damn spots live and draft blindfolded with pencil and paper only and no cheat sheets...well, maybe not blindfolded.

Don't worry Mikey, I really know your game now...even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while! Unless you learn to adjust that "game plan" of yours you'll continue to pad my wallet for years to come bud

[Edwards Kings]

Yeah...I certainly do not speak from experience as I have not been in a league that did that. Some people may not be as easy going as Mike, though!

Still waiting for you to tell us that you will be hopping on a plane out east to take the last spot in the MTM Super this year. Anytime you would like to confirm this, we're ready for you.

Mike, nothing and I mean NOTHING would give me greater pleasure. This event has been tugging at me since last year. However, the job (I am an SEC reporting director and our quarter closes Feb 28th, so just taking the time to go to Vegas is a helluva stretch) and the wife (a.k.a. the banker and yes, she wears the pants!) are hurdles I don't have the legs to jump this year.

I would say "have fun", but I know that event is going to be a BLAST!

[Captain Hook]

In the wise words of PVH:

"Shut up, sit down, and draft."

Thanks Glenn - I was going to hit reply and post this but thought I would read through all the comments first.

I agree with Chad that more news/info is better - that is why I would prefer that we find out live just before the draft.

The CHAMPIONSHIP is not supposed to be for the most practiced at their draft slot; or the one doing the most research on the people in their individual league .... it is to crown the National Fantasy Baseball Champion - the person who is the best fantasy player that year .. they should be able to draft from ANY position - and with KDS players should have the opportunity to pick the spot that works for them right AT the draft table.

So you walk into the room, get your league table #, go there and draw and choose draft positions .... THEN
Shut up, sit down, and draft!

[rkulaski]

In the wise words of PVH:

"Shut up, sit down, and draft."

Thanks Glenn - I was going to hit reply and post this but thought I would read through all the comments first.

I agree with Chad that more news/info is better - that is why I would prefer that we find out live just before the draft.

The CHAMPIONSHIP is not supposed to be for the most practiced at their draft slot; or the one doing the most research on the people in their individual league .... it is to crown the National Fantasy Baseball Champion - the person who is the best fantasy player that year .. they should be able to draft from ANY position - and with KDS players should have the opportunity to pick the spot that works for them right AT the draft table.

So you walk into the room, get your league table #, go there and draw and choose draft positions .... THEN
Shut up, sit down, and draft!

If draft spots weren't announced until moments before the draft, then owners would simply be more prepared with multiple draft strategies I.e. for beginning, middle, or end of the draft. Also, someone has a week to prepare the "perfect" draft strategy but, as we all know especially for the main event, the draft never goes how you think it's going to go. So owners are always adjusting on the fly already.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I can see this being a lot more important for football. Not much changes that last week of baseball and even if something does happen, it probably would have no bearing on kds.
I also don't think it takes any more skill to know a draft spot a minute an hour or a week before a draft.
Most of us have done it all by now.
I enjoy the mental masturbation of the week before a draft in scheming who will eventually be on my team.
If drafting minutes before knowing our spots, that week just becomes another week of study and some of us have already had almost six months of that.

[Hells Satans]

I'd rather have the draft spot either (1) decided at the draft or (2) as soon as possible. Giving it to me 2-3 days before doesn't give me any time to make use of the info, so either give it to me with plenty of advance time or give it to me with no time at all.

[Cobb]

We decided our draft slots right before the draft in the MTM Super last year. Although it was a nice wrinkle and we had a blast doing it, I don't think it would work real good in a room with 7-8 leagues. You have to stand there with all your crap waiting for your name to get pulled out of the hat because you don't have a seat yet. Then you have to figure out what draft spots are left and then choose one...although it was fun, it was loud, a little chaotic, and a pain in the ass.

I have no idea why you would not want to know your draft spot the weekend before the Main. I understand the whole prepare for any spot argument, yawn...you need to do that anyway, you could be in a league with the St.James Bulldogs. It's so overblown for baseball. If you don't have all the info you need to make an informed KDS selection 7 days before the draft then I'm not sure picking your KDS on draftday is going to help you much.

[Glenneration X]

I've both done live KDS and received draft spots early. My take is give me my draft slots whenever.

What I would like to request is one in a league away from the sharks.

[Baseball Furies]

I can see this being a lot more important for football. Not much changes that last week of baseball and even if something does happen, it probably would have no bearing on kds.
I also don't think it takes any more skill to know a draft spot a minute an hour or a week before a draft.
Most of us have done it all by now.
I enjoy the mental masturbation of the week before a draft in scheming who will eventually be on my team.
If drafting minutes before knowing our spots, that week just becomes another week of study and some of us have already had almost six months of that.

Correction: You enjoy any and all masturbation at this stage of your life because it's all you got to look forward to each day. Sorry, couldn't resist. You left yourself wide open for that one, Doughy.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I can see this being a lot more important for football. Not much changes that last week of baseball and even if something does happen, it probably would have no bearing on kds.
I also don't think it takes any more skill to know a draft spot a minute an hour or a week before a draft.
Most of us have done it all by now.
I enjoy the mental masturbation of the week before a draft in scheming who will eventually be on my team.
If drafting minutes before knowing our spots, that week just becomes another week of study and some of us have already had almost six months of that.

Correction: You enjoy any and all masturbation at this stage of your life because it's all you got to look forward to each day. Sorry, couldn't resist. You left yourself wide open for that one, Doughy.

I had a snappy reply, but I pictured a long thread of like jokes.
Just too easy...

[Captain Hook]

I don't think it would work real good in a room with 7-8 leagues. You have to stand there with all your crap waiting for your name to get pulled out of the hat because you don't have a seat yet. Then you have to figure out what draft spots are left and then choose one...although it was fun, it was loud, a little chaotic, and a pain in the ass.

I don't really understand "having to figure out what draft spots are left" -
1st guy picked goes and sits at the position he want
2nd does the same
3rd goes next
When it is your turn you can SEE which chairs/spots are empty .... WTP?

[Cobb]

I don't think it would work real good in a room with 7-8 leagues. You have to stand there with all your crap waiting for your name to get pulled out of the hat because you don't have a seat yet. Then you have to figure out what draft spots are left and then choose one...although it was fun, it was loud, a little chaotic, and a pain in the ass.

I don't really understand "having to figure out what draft spots are left" -
1st guy picked goes and sits at the position he want
2nd does the same
3rd goes next
When it is your turn you can SEE which chairs/spots are empty .... WTP?

It's from experience Perry, I didn't make up the stuff. Some people have computers, papers, clipboards, food, etc. When you don't have a home yet, it's a pain in the ass. When you get picked 9th, you have to figure out what spots are open. If you have a room with over a hundred people in it, it will be brutal. Don't patronize me like I'm some idiot.

With your experience, I would think you should be able to set your KDS a week before the draft...I mean, it's only setting a KDS for god's sake. You're not drafting a week early, all this for something this silly. If you are so concerned with having as much info as possible, then just draft on the 2nd weekend.

I could care less when I get my draft spots, Ken and I did just fine on the fly in the MTM...but I know not getting your league or pick until draft day will be a chaotic mess.

[Money]

This is a small sample size, but the %'s are enormous.

ABC and FOX news has projected that one week KDS drawings a week in advance are here to stay for all but the private leagues.

They have done this before the polls have closed on the West Coast.

Everyone doesn't try to make a living at this, some of are in it for fun, the enjoyment of the game and the competition.

[Cocktails and Dreams]

This is a small sample size, but the %'s are enormous.

ABC and FOX news has projected that one week KDS drawings a week in advance are here to stay for all but the private leagues.

They have done this before the polls have closed on the West Coast.

Everyone doesn't try to make a living at this, some of are in it for fun, the enjoyment of the game and the competition.

First of all, who tries to make a living playing fantasy baseball? Man that would be tough. And second, if you are playing for fun, that means you want less current information to set KDS with? And if someone was playing as a pro they would be the only ones that would want more information? Not following that logic. I would prefer more and am certainly not a professional fantasy baseball player. Not sure why anyone wouldn't honestly, but I guess if they play for fun they do? Results are expected as people are reluctant to change by nature, and the way the question was worded.

[Captain Hook]

With your experience, I would think you should be able to set your KDS a week before the draft...I mean, it's only setting a KDS for god's sake. You're not drafting a week early, all this for something this silly. If you are so concerned with having as much info as possible, then just draft on the 2nd weekend.

I could set them now .... I could have set them in December ... and I can/will set them at any point needed. But personally I would prefer that people get their draft spots AT the draft - live and in person.

And I don't care about drafting on the first or second weekend - to me it is about my schedule and which weekend, if either, are best for me to drive up to Las Vegas

[Cobb]

This is a small sample size, but the %'s are enormous.

ABC and FOX news has projected that one week KDS drawings a week in advance are here to stay for all but the private leagues.

They have done this before the polls have closed on the West Coast.

Everyone doesn't try to make a living at this, some of are in it for fun, the enjoyment of the game and the competition.

First of all, who tries to make a living playing fantasy baseball? Man that would be tough. And second, if you are playing for fun, that means you want less current information to set KDS with? And if someone was playing as a pro they would be the only ones that would want more information? Not following that logic. I would prefer more and am certainly not a professional fantasy baseball player. Not sure why anyone wouldn't honestly, but I guess if they play for fun they do? Results are expected as people are reluctant to change by nature, and the way the question was worded.

How do you not understand the question Chad? It's not as complex as it might seem. When do you want to know your league and draft position? A week before the draft, 3 days, 24 hrs? What in the world.

You're not sure why anyone would rather want this info a week ahead of time to plan their draft instead of waiting to see where Hosmer is going 5 days before KDS? I'm sorry man, I agree with you on a lot of things but you and Perry are the one's off on this. The polls tell you all you need to know. KDS is not THAT critical.

[KJ Duke]

I would like my draft slot 33 days in advance, I think that is tomorrow. Who can make that happen?

[Cobb]

I would like my draft slot 33 days in advance, I think that is tomorrow. Who can make that happen?

LOL! I'm with you KJ! I know Jupinka is too, it takes him at least a month to get those excel spreadsheets and clipboards together!

[Money]

This is a small sample size, but the %'s are enormous.

ABC and FOX news has projected that one week KDS drawings a week in advance are here to stay for all but the private leagues.

They have done this before the polls have closed on the West Coast.

Everyone doesn't try to make a living at this, some of are in it for fun, the enjoyment of the game and the competition.

First of all, who tries to make a living playing fantasy baseball? Man that would be tough. And second, if you are playing for fun, that means you want less current information to set KDS with? And if someone was playing as a pro they would be the only ones that would want more information? Not following that logic. I would prefer more and am certainly not a professional fantasy baseball player. Not sure why anyone wouldn't honestly, but I guess if they play for fun they do? Results are expected as people are reluctant to change by nature, and the way the question was worded.

Chad you're taking this personally. I only play a few teams and want to root for my players. Someone earlier said they like the week before because they map out different scenarios's and it makes it fun, otherwise that last week before the draft is the same as the last few months, that's all. I understand the other side, I just don't happen to reside there.

[Quahogs]

I would like my draft slot 33 days in advance, I think that is tomorrow. Who can make that happen?

LOL! I'm with you KJ! I know Jupinka is too, it takes him at least a month to get those excel spreadsheets and clipboards together!

I think this year I'm going to tuck the clipboards under a board in the Monet room, I'm tired of jamming those things in my bag... Yeah Cobb, someone left a half eaten ice cream bar at my seat I had to sit at... I say it was either Magner or Fleming !

[rockitsauce]

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First of all, who tries to make a living playing fantasy baseball?

well there's that "pig" farmer in Idaho. That's rich. Like I'm really believing the guy who has won this contest TWICE (including the double whammy in '09) is sweatin' it out in the mud w/ Wilbur & friends all summer. Sure.

then there's Jupinka, as if that dude works. He takes down sucka mc's who think they can battle.

that guy who thinks he's a better bowler than me n Joe's Uncle Earl, when he's not hustling the rudypoops at the Lucky Strike, I know he writes about fantasy sports, but that just helps him do his real job.

our current champ is a traveling musician...job? please. Not to say making music is easy, but it sure beats digging ditches. Plus he kills it in the Daily games too.

KJ just brainstorms about ways to make this hobby of ours better...I guess he takes a look at some stocks now & then when he's not basking in the glorious SD sunshine.

last, but certainly not least...do you realize how many of the DC's our fav. Wall St. impersonator is in ? I heard mention of a job delivering H2O or some such in the past, but I ain't buying that one either.

EDIT: Forgot a couple - first, how could I forget Mean Gene, the OWG (Original Wise Guy) ? I hope Gene doesn't mind that I include one of my fav. nuggets from the 2013 WGB....Josh Hamilton $$ Great as he is, the Angels were crazy to sign him for more than two years. The wear and tear on his body has to kick in at some point, he's already highly injury-prone, and he could wind up in a crackhouse tomorrow. Nobody gives it to ya like Gene

Then there's MtM. He's in La Cosa Nostra, def. not a job...well, except when he has to break some legs

[JEagle]

I would like my draft slot 33 days in advance, I think that is tomorrow. Who can make that happen?

Best idea yet!