Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

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Post by Spartacus » Wed May 29, 2013 9:29 am

moving right along, Wacha gonna do this Sunday ? ;)
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Post by Spartacus » Wed May 29, 2013 9:29 am

moving right along, Wacha gonna do this Sunday ? ;)
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Post by Outlaw » Wed May 29, 2013 9:57 am

Spartacus wrote:moving right along, Wacha gonna do this Sunday ? ;)
Definitely not spend more than a few bucks for a 1-2 start rental. Remains to be seen though, but all thess double AA pitchers coming latley to the majors have been getting lit up this year.

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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Billyhaze » Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm

Meanwhile guys like Kluber, Pettibone, Grimm, Stults etc. sit on waivers, at least they have been contributing something.

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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Edwards Kings » Wed May 29, 2013 3:01 pm

Billyhaze wrote:Meanwhile guys like Kluber, Pettibone, Grimm, Stults etc. sit on waivers, at least they have been contributing something.

Shhh! They are sleepers!
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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Return of the Aces » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:49 am

It looks like today's start could be do-or-die for 2013 (with the exception of a late September call-up).

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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Outlaw » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:57 pm

He pitched good today, looks like he sticks around a bit longer

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Post by Glenneration X » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:15 pm

Outlaw wrote:He pitched good today, looks like he sticks around a bit longer
Huge game and big step up from his last start. The biggest thing I saw is how he controlled Miguel Cabrera, forcing him into a pair of DP grounders to short and striking him out the other at bat. He faced the best hitter in the game and didn't flinch. His one mistake was grooving a low fastball to Fielder on a 3-0 count that Fielder destroyed.

The next step in his development is to try not to go so deep into counts. It seemed like he was 3-2 on every hitter. Still, he showed a little bit of the pitcher I was so high on. I'm hoping this is the first of a few more positive starts to come.

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Post by KJ Duke » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:33 pm

Glenneration X wrote:
Outlaw wrote:He pitched good today, looks like he sticks around a bit longer
Huge game and big step up from his last start. The biggest thing I saw is how he controlled Miguel Cabrera, forcing him into a pair of DP grounders to short and striking him out the other at bat. He faced the best hitter in the game and didn't flinch. His one mistake was grooving a low fastball to Fielder on a 3-0 count that Fielder destroyed.

The next step in his development is to try not to go so deep into counts. It seemed like he was 3-2 on every hitter. Still, he showed a little bit of the pitcher I was so high on. I'm hoping this is the first of a few more positive starts to come.
I can feel the burn from here, Mr. Lowy. Gausman is becoming ... Maurer.

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Post by Glenneration X » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:05 am

KJ Duke wrote:I can feel the burn from here, Mr. Lowy. Gausman is becoming ... Maurer.
Luckily, I sat him this week for most of the teams I have him rostered for other 2-start options. Still, it would have been nice to see a slightly better effort.

I still believe his stuff translates, but as often happens with young starters, he seems to have trouble getting himself out of trouble. He's already made the adjustment to pitch lower in the zone. I think he needs to make further adjustments on pitch selection and location from pitch to pitch. Most of the time, even I'm able to figure out where he's going. For someone with his repetoire and ability to command within the zone, I don't think that'll be a difficult adjustment to make, but without a doubt it does need to be made.

I think there's little doubt at this point that there's still growth that needs to happen here, but if and when the switch turns on, I still believe it'll be lights out for this kid. Hopefully, it happens soon. ;)

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Post by COZ » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:34 am

Pretty much has played to his scouting report: coming out of LSU, the knock against him was that he did not have a good breaking ball or slider and was pretty much a two-pitch pitcher with a fastball and change-up. And, as is so often the case, when Pitchers don't have a good breaking ball, MLB hitters are able to sit on the fastball and crush it. That, to me, seems to be his major problem. It never ceases to amaze me, that no matter how hard a guy throws his fastball, if Major Leaguers are able to sit fastball and know its coming, eventually they will crush it. Just check the MLB batting averages for hitters counts (2-0, 3-0, 3-1)(i.e. hitters know fastball is coming), its amazing the differences in BA's for hitters counts v. pitchers counts.

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Post by 751542 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:17 am

Glenneration X wrote:
KJ Duke wrote:I can feel the burn from here, Mr. Lowy. Gausman is becoming ... Maurer.
Luckily, I sat him this week for most of the teams I have him rostered for other 2-start options. Still, it would have been nice to see a slightly better effort.

I still believe his stuff translates, but as often happens with young starters, he seems to have trouble getting himself out of trouble. He's already made the adjustment to pitch lower in the zone. I think he needs to make further adjustments on pitch selection and location from pitch to pitch. Most of the time, even I'm able to figure out where he's going. For someone with his repetoire and ability to command within the zone, I don't think that'll be a difficult adjustment to make, but without a doubt it does need to be made.

I think there's little doubt at this point that there's still growth that needs to happen here, but if and when the switch turns on, I still believe it'll be lights out for this kid. Hopefully, it happens soon. ;)
i believe, this is wishful thinking. i have watched all his starts. bottom line here glenn, he needs to develop an EFFECTIVE 3RD PITCH!

dont feel offended, i have cingrani EVERYWHERE and feel the same about him. i just cant seem to learn, i drank the kool-aid on scherzer years ago, i never claimed to be smart ;)
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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:37 am

No matter 'the stuff', it is just tough for young pitchers to knock major league hitters dead. It takes time. I made my stand with Wacha. I know I'm bucking the odds.
Most likely, pitchers like Gausman, Wacha, Wheeler, and Cingrani are going to be very successful.
But also more than likely, that success will come in later years. Not, right away.
Like Rick, I never claimed smartness either. :)
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Post by 751542 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:40 am

DOUGHBOYS wrote:No matter 'the stuff', it is just tough for young pitchers to knock major league hitters dead. It takes time. I made my stand with Wacha. I know I'm bucking the odds.
Most likely, pitchers like Gausman, Wacha, Wheeler, and Cingrani are going to be very successful.
But also more than likely, that success will come in later years. Not, right away
well stated, now get ur main team going so i can win the drafters league! :D
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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:43 am

RoundTrippers wrote:
DOUGHBOYS wrote:No matter 'the stuff', it is just tough for young pitchers to knock major league hitters dead. It takes time. I made my stand with Wacha. I know I'm bucking the odds.
Most likely, pitchers like Gausman, Wacha, Wheeler, and Cingrani are going to be very successful.
But also more than likely, that success will come in later years. Not, right away
well stated, now get ur main team going so i can win the drafters league! :D
Dead time this week. Hopefully, it'll get back on track soon, Rick! :D
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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by ToddZ » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:56 am

Gausman needs to command his fastball better. Command and control are often used interchangeably, but the intended difference is control is the ability to throw strikes while command is the ability to locate within the zone. A high LD% and HR/FB can be a lack of secondary pitches as well as leaving too many pitches over the heart of the plate - which is what I've seen. I like Gausman's change-up but so long as a smart hitter can think dead red, he's going to get hit.
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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Outlaw » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:54 pm

Gausman should ask Gerrit Cole how he gets his fastball to move in the stike zone... Pretty nice performance from Cole tonight..Giants batters had some ugly swings against his fastball...Seems like a real nice kid too watching his post game interview... Oh and he can hit too...but it seems anyone can hit Lincecum these days.

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Re: Gausman -- Any Impact in 2013?

Post by Outlaw » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:48 am

Gone- should be back though sometime this year. Have to ask why they send him down and keep Garcia, but who knows.

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