Consensus top-5

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:59 am

If you look at all the “expert” drafts here is the consensus top-5

1. A-rod

2. Soriano

3. Pujols

4. Vlad

5. Helton

Nomar and Bonds have been running a close 6 and 7, Manny and Prior are in most top-10’s as well.

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:03 am

Prior will make top 5 in a couple of drafts. Just my opinion. If he was 100%, he would make top 5 in several leagues. That's also my opinion. You will certainly see Beltran's name in a couple of top 5's too.

Pete

[ March 15, 2004, 10:04 AM: Message edited by: Top Dawg ]

Rey · Post by **Rey** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:04 am

That seems like a legit top 5. I think starters will get bumped down. Prior is the only real 1st round lock possibly.

chi town here we come · Post by **chi town here we come** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:06 am

I THINK BELTRAN NEEDS TO BE IN THERE OR ATLEAST KNOCKING ON THE DOOR...

:rolleyes:

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:06 am

Beware the experts drafts. In that CBS Sportsline draft that Greg did the other night, check out these picks:

1 David Gonos Alex Rodriguez (SS NYY)

2 Nancy Plotkin Vladimir Guerrero (OF ANA)

3 Greg Ambrosius Alfonso Soriano (2B TEX)

4 Charlie McCarthy Albert Pujols (OF STL)

5 Mike Levine Mark Prior (P CHC)

6 Tristan H. Cockcroft Todd Helton (1B COL)

7 Daniel E. Dobish Pedro Martinez (P BOS)

8 Michael Fabiano Barry Bonds (OF SF)

9 Scott Engel Nomar Garciaparra (SS BOS)

10 Greg Cimilluca Curt Schilling (P BOS)

11 Eric Mack Carlos Delgado (1B TOR)

12 Thomas Tighe Bret Boone (2B SEA)

13 Adam Reich Manny Ramirez (OF BOS)

14 Joe Ferreira Carlos Beltran (OF KC)

Round 2

15 Joe Ferreira Roy Halladay (P TOR)

16 Adam Reich Kerry Wood (P CHC)

17 Thomas Tighe Eric Chavez (3B OAK)

18 Eric Mack Sammy Sosa (OF CHC)

19 Greg Cimilluca Jim Thome (1B PHI)

20 Scott Engel Jason Giambi (1B NYY)

21 Michael Fabiano Derek Jeter (SS NYY)

22 Daniel E. Dobish Ichiro Suzuki (OF SEA)

23 Tristan H. Cockcroft Magglio Ordonez (OF CHW)

24 Mike Levine Brian Giles (OF SD)

25 Charlie McCarthy Javier Vazquez (P NYY)

26 Greg Ambrosius Miguel Tejada (SS BAL)

27 Nancy Plotkin Jorge Posada (C NYY)

28 David Gonos Bobby Abreu (OF PHI)

Besides a few of the obvious blunders (Beltran at 14, Magglio at 23, Posada at 27, etc.)...JUST WHO ARE THESE SO-CALLED EXPERTS?!?!?!

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:06 am

Originally posted by Rey:

That seems like a legit top 5. I think starters will get bumped down. Prior is the only real 1st round lock possibly. I'm going to take Randy Johnson - he was a #1/#2 pick last year and I'm just waiting to snag him at the #10-12 hole and bury everyone

Errr, actually if that's my draft position I'll have more problems than if I start off with Unit!

I've currently built my strategy around picking #3 or #4 - hope Greg's card-man obliges!

lol

Dave

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:07 am

My dream is for Beltran to fall to me in the 10 range. Golden rule: never talk up a guy you REALLY want.

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:08 am

One other point - I have a strong feeling A-Rod will not be the 1st pick in every league this year. Someone will deviate from that pick. That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.

Pete

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:09 am

Originally posted by nnoy:

My dream is for Beltran to fall to me in the 10 range. Golden rule: never talk up a guy you REALLY want. Personally, I think Barry Bonds is the 'projected 1st rounder' with the most variability. I bet he goes #5 or #6 in some drafts and #14 or #15 in others.

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:10 am

Like I said this was a consolidated “experts” list, including the one where Beltran went 14. Remember, the guys at cbssportsline aren’t the ones popping down a cool $1250 to show the world what they know. If they were, then no way could any of them passed on him from 10-13.

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:11 am

This is a good way to kill time while we all sit on our hands waiting for what seems like the “call” from the HOF.

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:14 am

I really need to have a handful of those "experts" in my league. I'm a bit surprised nobody took Rey Ordonez in the second round the way they were going.

Pete (still waiting for noon central)

751542 · Post by **751542** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:14 am

beltran is a bit too brittle to take in the top 5. news on prior in the next week will be huge. helton is a no brainer, that 358 b.a. and bulking up could boost his homers. random thoughts from a lunatic mind. RT

Walter Sobczak · Post by **Walter Sobczak** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:14 am

You are all WAY off!

1. Wikki Gonzalez

2. Henry Blanco

3. Andy Fox

4. Dan Plesac

5. A-Rod (just beats out Delino DeShields)

It really looks like I will win this whole thing......

Scarface · Post by **Scarface** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:17 am

I agree the experts cant be taking these Mock draft that seriously.If they where each putting down $1250 then alot of those draft will look alot diferent.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:18 am

If only Ramon Castro qualified at catcher, he'd be a Top 5 pick for sure.

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:21 am

Don’t forget D. Ward, he’d be top-10 if he had a position.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:22 am

nnoy, aren't you the DUDE that said we shouldn't be worrying about Ward?

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:23 am

That would be me. Back in the days before I became a message board junkie.

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:24 am

There is nothing worse than hitting “refresh” and seeing the number of posts remain the same. Anyone feel my pain?

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:25 am

Let me ease your pain... only temporary, though

lol

D

nnoy · Post by **nnoy** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:25 am

If a psychologist ever needed a study group to research obsessive-compulsive disorder I think he could find some definite subjects on the message board.

Rey · Post by **Rey** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:28 am

Originally posted by Scarface:

I agree the experts cant be taking these Mock draft that seriously.If they where each putting down $1250 then alot of those draft will look alot diferent.

You'd figure they are taking it somewhat seriously, as most of them depend on their fantasy reputation for their livelihoods. I actually think those guys did their best. If Greg, for example, clearly has the best Experts League draft and makes loads of great picks, that is an extra notch on his belt that he can use next year when selling his servies. Just my thought.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:33 am

Originally posted by Rey:

quote:Originally posted by Scarface:

I agree the experts cant be taking these Mock draft that seriously.If they where each putting down $1250 then alot of those draft will look alot diferent.

You'd figure they are taking it somewhat seriously, as most of them depend on their fantasy reputation for their livelihoods. I actually think those guys did their best. If Greg, for example, clearly has the best Experts League draft and makes loads of great picks, that is an extra notch on his belt that he can use next year when selling his servies. Just my thought. [/QUOTE]You could be right, Rey - but the market for 'expert' contests seems to expand until there are enough that every participant can claim at least one 1st or 2nd place on their site

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:33 am

Some food for thought:

You know, all this importance we place on what draft pick we have is a tad silly. It's like the Super Bowl boxes--everyone wants the 3s, 7s and 0s, but the final score almost always ends up 32 to 29 or some such. Let the chips fall where they may.

Also, in a 10- or 12-team league, I think having the first or second pick is very nice. However, in a 15-team league, you're waiting an awful long time for that 2nd pick. To me, the worst pick to get would be 9, 10 or 11: You likely won't get one of the premier players, and you're still waiting a while for your subsequent pick.