NFBC Rules Changes For 2014

[ALL-IN JD]

Mark,

I will humbly disagree. There is no baseball being played during the All-Star break so if we open up the FAAB bidding right after games on Sunday and run the FAAB 8:00 on Thursday night that gives you 4 days to enter FAAB days. You can space them out and not have to enter them all at once. I also believe that one FAAB will be way more helpful than increasing the draft by five rounds.


Jeff

[sek729]

Put me in a vote against the Friday pitching rule change.

The short period one has to get this pitching move in on Friday is really one of my main problems. There will occaisionally be Friday's for me where I may not get a chance to get on and make the move and it would put me a disadvantage. Despite what some argue, IMO it would be more than a "1 minute button click" to decide how to properly utilize this. If you're in multiple leagues, I think it would be a major pain in the butt and during the Friday's you can't access the small window to make a change, you're really at a disadvantage. I'm sure there will be some loophole nobody has mentioned yet that will be discovered and taken advantage of. Just opens an ugly door. Maybe trial it in a few leagues first to see how it works out, but a site-wide move to this, I would be against (but I wouldn't take my ball and go home either because I don't play in many leagues to begin with).

- I do support extra rounds in the Draft Champions. 55, or even 60 I wouldn't have a problem with. It does get tedious down there near 50, but there are plenty of undrafted guys in my league that are contributing and if you're bored with the draft at that point, it's really not that much of a chore to pile up your queue with sleeper players.

- I oppose FAAB at All-Star Break for Draft Champions. I concur with what someone else said about everybody putting in $1000 for Puig. I hate the idea of a Top 3 team landing the #1 most valuable undrafted commodity at the ASB based on a random draw. An alternative I would possibly support would be an All-Star Break DRAFT. You could do maybe 3 or 5 extra rounds here with the worst team getting the first pick. Make sure there's a pre-ranking of unattached players, so if any owners had quit and don't participate in the draft they would draft the most valuable of the unattached players but it would still give the teams in the thick of the competition a shot at useful players like LaTroy Hawkins, Danny Farquhar, Scooter Gennett, JB Shuck, Charlie Morton to fill in for injured players. But I think it's vital to increase the initial pre-season draft to 55-60 to kinda limit the amount of impact players that would be available during this window.

Just my thoughts..

[KJ Duke]

An ideal solution would be to lock any player into a starting (or bench) position for the period as soon as they enter a game or generate a statistic, and not before. Hitter or pitcher.

[Roger Dorn]

While Jeff's suggestion of having one FAAB period is interesting, I still like the draft and be done with it format the best. If the average team has 10 dead spots they'd like to replenish, that 150 free agents being picked up at one time. Imagine how much time it will take to populate and/or change the conditional bids. Even if the average team has 5 dead spots, that's still 75 league pickups. Now if an owner has 10 or 20 DC leagues, effort hours go way up.

I vote to bump up the roster sizes from 50 to 55.

Goldy out in May = all aboard with All-Star FAAB!

[Gekko]

Mark,
I will humbly disagree. There is no baseball being played during the All-Star break so if we open up the FAAB bidding right after games on Sunday and run the FAAB 8:00 on Thursday night that gives you 4 days to enter FAAB days. You can space them out and not have to enter them all at once. I also believe that one FAAB will be way more helpful than increasing the draft by five rounds.
Jeff

Jeff,
I can see both sides of the equation here. Not trying to diminish your idea at all. Just realize that if each team picked up 5 guys, you would need at least 75 different players in your free agent list to be guaranteed you got your 5 guys. i do realize not everyone will have the same 75 players ranked the same as you, however that's a lot of guys to list for a single league. now multiply that by some owners having 20 or 30 leagues.

[Gekko]

Jeff - I would play in either format.

[sek729]

A 3 or 5 round draft of undrafted players would be better than FAAB. Keep FAAB out of Draft Champion. If we want to add players midseason, it should be a draft strategy based (let worst teams get the most valuable players), not a FAAB strategy.

[ALL-IN JD]

I FAAB in 26 weeks will in no way take away from the Draft Championship be all about going to war with the team you drafted. Adding 3-5 rounds before the season starts is virtually useless in my humble opinion.

[Roger Dorn]

When was the first DC last year?

[sek729]

I FAAB in 26 weeks will in no way take away from the Draft Championship be all about going to war with the team you drafted. Adding 3-5 rounds before the season starts is virtually useless in my humble opinion.

No, add the 3-5 rounds at the All-Star Break. Yes FAAB does take away from the spirit of it IMO. Contending teams should not be dramatically altered at the ASB. Adding a few extra pieces that help offset injuries, that's fine, I don't object. Allowing a team to add a Gregg, Ziegler, Hawkins or Farquhar to replace an injured closer? No problem! I just don't like the idea of top 3 contender being able to add a Puig or Byrd calibre player at the break through FAAB randomness, when half the owners have checked out by then. That would dramatically take away from the Draft Champion spirit.

[ALL-IN JD]

I guess we can agree to disagree as all of the top prospects will be long gone by the end of a 50 round draft.

[Gekko]

Adding 3-5 rounds before the season starts is virtually useless in my humble opinion.

Here are players I drafted in the last 5 rounds (46-50) of some of my DC leagues this year...
Jose Fernandez
Oswaldo Arcia (multiple teams)
Evan Gattis (multiple teams)
Tony Cingrani (multiple teams)
Travis Wood
Corey Kluber

Some leagues Gattis wasn't even drafted. Same with Puig. Same with Ryu

[ALL-IN JD]

Another words they were gone after round 50?

[Gekko]

Another words they were gone after round 50?

Some leagues Gattis wasn't even drafted. Same with Puig. Same with Ryu

[ALL-IN JD]

Maybe drafts that were in December or January. Guys like Puig or Ryu that werent drafted in December surely were drafted in February and March, and those teams sure had a huge advantage drafting over thoses December/January drafters. At least those teams can now have a shot at them, even if only for 40% of the season.

[joshguy]

Because of how many teams would be doing max bids on just a few players, it would be such a random way to determine a league champ or possibly even an overall champ. How many teams would just go max bid on Kevin Gregg, who I believe wasnt even drafted in any draft champions leagues? Isnt the tie breaker in FAAB, record? So every team below you has a HUGE advantage. A closer for half a season in a closed system like the DC's if youre in the middle of the pack in saves is like a 5 pt gain.

A draft would be more fair but still the whole logistics of it would be a nightmare(many teams are in multiple leagues, how many would/could show up). The 1st pick of the supplemental draft would mean instant points while the 15th pick would probably be a bench player.

I would like to see us go to 55 RDs just for some bench filler or the opportunity to take some shots on lesser prospects who you just dont have the picks to take(or dont want to risk taking with one of the precious 50).

[sek729]

Going to 55 or 60 makes the most sense, I agree.

[Money]

I'd like to throw in a vote for 45

[Bama]

I'd like to throw in a vote for 45

I will second the vote for 45.

Still havent got any feedback on my proposal on another thread to make it a true draft champions league when the draft is over no managing during the season. Make the draft 36 rds and all players stats count. you would do this by adding positions. say 1 c, 1ci, 1 mi, 3of, 1dh 5 pitchers and 1 flex(pitcher or hitter). 1 would probably do 5 or more of these.

[gpchurchill]

While Jeff's suggestion of having one FAAB period is interesting, I still like the draft and be done with it format the best. If the average team has 10 dead spots they'd like to replenish, that 150 free agents being picked up at one time. Imagine how much time it will take to populate and/or change the conditional bids. Even if the average team has 5 dead spots, that's still 75 league pickups. Now if an owner has 10 or 20 DC leagues, effort hours go way up.

I vote to bump up the roster sizes from 50 to 55.

This.

50 to 55.

[Quahogs]

I'd like to throw in a vote for 45

I will second the vote for 45.

Still havent got any feedback on my proposal on another thread to make it a true draft champions league when the draft is over no managing during the season. Make the draft 36 rds and all players stats count. you would do this by adding positions. say 1 c, 1ci, 1 mi, 3of, 1dh 5 pitchers and 1 flex(pitcher or hitter). 1 would probably do 5 or more of these.

Ken, I had the exact same idea last year. I think I posted more detail about this on one of Doughboys threads asking about alternative styles of gameplay. When I get the chance I'll look for it. The gist of it was let's just draft. I proposed that it be tailored similar to a main event (more players obviously) so that way its relevant to ME prep. But after the draft is over you don't have to do a damn thing other than follow the standings. Injuries be damned. Every player you have counts.

You would need some sort of minimum IP requirement that way you dont get crazy Kershaw and then 8 closers teams. If you don't hit the IP requirement due to injury then tough.

Great practice for the higher stakes leagues but without the overhead. Appeals to the casual/new blood player who just wants to follow a team during the season but don't want to deal with burdensome lineup changes and foreign faab.

[Money]

I'd like to throw in a vote for 45

I will second the vote for 45.

Still havent got any feedback on my proposal on another thread to make it a true draft champions league when the draft is over no managing during the season. Make the draft 36 rds and all players stats count. you would do this by adding positions. say 1 c, 1ci, 1 mi, 3of, 1dh 5 pitchers and 1 flex(pitcher or hitter). 1 would probably do 5 or more of these.

Ken, I had the exact same idea last year. I think I posted more detail about this on one of Doughboys threads asking about alternative styles of gameplay. When I get the chance I'll look for it. The gist of it was let's just draft. I proposed that it be tailored similar to a main event (more players obviously) so that way its relevant to ME prep. But after the draft is over you don't have to do a damn thing other than follow the standings. Injuries be damned. Every player you have counts.

You would need some sort of minimum IP requirement that way you dont get crazy Kershaw and then 8 closers teams. If you don't hit the IP requirement due to injury then tough.

Great practice for the higher stakes leagues but without the overhead. Appeals to the casual/new blood player who just wants to follow a team during the season but don't want to deal with burdensome lineup changes and foreign faab.

I like it!!

[Rainiers]

An ideal solution would be to lock any player into a starting (or bench) position for the period as soon as they enter a game or generate a statistic, and not before. Hitter or pitcher.

This is an excellent idea worth repeating. I don't know if this is technically feasible, but if it is this would be a great solution.

[DOUGHBOYS]

An ideal solution would be to lock any player into a starting (or bench) position for the period as soon as they enter a game or generate a statistic, and not before. Hitter or pitcher.

This is an excellent idea worth repeating. I don't know if this is technically feasible, but if it is this would be a great solution.

If they could program it that way along with Friday hitters changes, that seems to be a great solution.

[Roger Dorn]

Adding 3-5 rounds before the season starts is virtually useless in my humble opinion.

Here are players I drafted in the last 5 rounds (46-50) of some of my DC leagues this year...
Jose Fernandez
Oswaldo Arcia (multiple teams)
Evan Gattis (multiple teams)
Tony Cingrani (multiple teams)
Travis Wood
Corey Kluber

Some leagues Gattis wasn't even drafted. Same with Puig. Same with Ryu

Player % owned in DC
Juan Uribe 8.9%
Corey Kluber 26.0%
Yasiel Puig 48.0%
Michael Wacha 49.6%
Marlon Byrd 50.4%
Owaldo Arcia 60.2%
Scott Kamir 62.6%
Ed mujica 78.9%
DJ LeMahieu 84.6%
Jarred Cosart 85.0%
Pedro Florimon 85.4%
Tony Cingrani 86.2%
Jose Fernandez 87.0%
Evan Gattis 92.7%
Travis Wood 100.0%
Hyun Ryu 100.0%
Kevin Gregg n/a