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Post by Sack » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:09 pm

This game was postponed last night. Appears all the players on both teams are locked already?
Shouldn't we still be allowed to move these players for the remainder of the day?

This is done for my pal Andy "Sticker Boy" Saxton. Heck, half of all his teams are filled
with Phillies! ;)

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Post by ALL-IN JD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:11 pm

Refer to other thread Ken. Greg said they lock regardless once the scheduled time occurs.

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Post by Sack » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:17 pm

Jeff:

Just read Greg's post. Thanks Jeff.

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Post by 76erfan » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:02 pm

Got howard, sandberg and ruiz autographs in chicago this weekend.. Gave them stickers too since that's my name

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Post by BK METS » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:12 pm

This might be a little off topic, but I tried Fan Duel baseball this past week. What a disaster. I picked a team at the beginning of the day. My team had 2 players from the Oakland/Seattle game, which got "rained out" (actually bad field conditions.. it wasn't raining).. And that's it. I lose. I tried again today and again, a disaster. Never again.. You think playing in year long leagues are bad, with lineup decisions?... the one day leagues are awful.

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Post by GetALife » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:09 am

BK METS wrote:This might be a little off topic, but I tried Fan Duel baseball this past week. What a disaster. I picked a team at the beginning of the day. My team had 2 players from the Oakland/Seattle game, which got "rained out" (actually bad field conditions.. it wasn't raining).. And that's it. I lose. I tried again today and again, a disaster. Never again.. You think playing in year long leagues are bad, with lineup decisions?... the one day leagues are awful.

But your advertisement on television or the radio could say: "BK Mets from (fill in local area big city depending on where you are viewing) St. Louis has lost $487,999 playing on FanDuel so far. Make your deposit today and lose like BK Mets!

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Post by BK METS » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:31 am

GetALife wrote:
BK METS wrote:This might be a little off topic, but I tried Fan Duel baseball this past week. What a disaster. I picked a team at the beginning of the day. My team had 2 players from the Oakland/Seattle game, which got "rained out" (actually bad field conditions.. it wasn't raining).. And that's it. I lose. I tried again today and again, a disaster. Never again.. You think playing in year long leagues are bad, with lineup decisions?... the one day leagues are awful.

But your advertisement on television or the radio could say: "BK Mets from (fill in local area big city depending on where you are viewing) St. Louis has lost $487,999 playing on FanDuel so far. Make your deposit today and lose like BK Mets!
. True that. :lol:

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Post by rockitsauce » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:43 pm

BK METS wrote:This might be a little off topic, but I tried Fan Duel baseball this past week. What a disaster. I picked a team at the beginning of the day. My team had 2 players from the Oakland/Seattle game, which got "rained out" (actually bad field conditions.. it wasn't raining).. And that's it. I lose. I tried again today and again, a disaster. Never again.. You think playing in year long leagues are bad, with lineup decisions?... the one day leagues are awful.
Tell that BS to the people who drafted Medlen, Beachy, Parker, Corbin in DC lge's. When the live drafts began how did those folks who took Chapman early feel? How do you feel this morning as a Matt Moore owner ? Reyes anyone ?

I too got burned in that OAK-SEA fiasco, but that was a total anomaly. Much like the Mexico City fire that canceled the MIN-SA game back in Oct. just an unfortunate incident that screwed alot of DFS players. Yes, it sucked, but I'll take my chances on a daily basis anytime.

Aside of that how did you get screwed again? The CLE-S.D. game was known to be postponed WELL BEFORE deadline. I'll give you a tip Alan (and I like dead $ so I must like you :twisted: ) you can't just set your l/u and la dee da, go about your day. You better check in at least 10-15 mins prior to deadline to double-check weather and late scratches.

Rotogrinders is great site for info. I personally follow the MLB beat writers on twitter. You, as a Muts fan, probably knew about Dan Murphy missing Opening Day. I would've missed it had I not been paying attention and double checked as I already stated. If I did miss it I wouldn't cry that it's Fanduel's fault.

Did Greg pay you to write that crap :lol:
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Post by GetALife » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:31 pm

rockitsauce wrote:
BK METS wrote:This might be a little off topic, but I tried Fan Duel baseball this past week. What a disaster. I picked a team at the beginning of the day. My team had 2 players from the Oakland/Seattle game, which got "rained out" (actually bad field conditions.. it wasn't raining).. And that's it. I lose. I tried again today and again, a disaster. Never again.. You think playing in year long leagues are bad, with lineup decisions?... the one day leagues are awful.
Tell that BS to the people who drafted Medlen, Beachy, Parker, Corbin in DC lge's. When the live drafts began how did those folks who took Chapman early feel? How do you feel this morning as a Matt Moore owner ? Reyes anyone ?

I too got burned in that OAK-SEA fiasco, but that was a total anomaly. Much like the Mexico City fire that canceled the MIN-SA game back in Oct. just an unfortunate incident that screwed alot of DFS players. Yes, it sucked, but I'll take my chances on a daily basis anytime.

Aside of that how did you get screwed again? The CLE-S.D. game was known to be postponed WELL BEFORE deadline. I'll give you a tip Alan (and I like dead $ so I must like you :twisted: ) you can't just set your l/u and la dee da, go about your day. You better check in at least 10-15 mins prior to deadline to double-check weather and late scratches.

Rotogrinders is great site for info. I personally follow the MLB beat writers on twitter. You, as a Muts fan, probably knew about Dan Murphy missing Opening Day. I would've missed it had I not been paying attention and double checked as I already stated. If I did miss it I wouldn't cry that it's Fanduel's fault.

Did Greg pay you to write that crap :lol:

RockSauce - Have you won $480,000 playing FanDuel yet or have you lost $480,000 playing FanDuel yet? What person has won $480,000 from your local area based on those commercials just in the LAST YEAR? Lifetime?

One reason (of many) I like full-season leagues (not that you asked) is that I don't have time to go through lineups daily, find out who is playing, or find out where it's raining. With the NFBC, I can worry about that maybe once a week minimum.

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Post by rockitsauce » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:35 pm

GetALife wrote:
RockSauce - Have you won $480,000 playing FanDuel yet or have you lost $480,000 playing FanDuel yet? What person has won $480,000 from your local area based on those commercials just in the LAST YEAR? Lifetime?

One reason (of many) I like full-season leagues (not that you asked) is that I don't have time to go through lineups daily, find out who is playing, or find out where it's raining. With the NFBC, I can worry about that maybe once a week minimum.
Thanks for telling me a huge company has commercials. Duly noted.

Since you DID ask, I've won over $25K there since May 2012 and FD is probably ecstatic that I've "reinvested" most of it right back to them.

I can compete today and not tomorrow. Nobody compels you to play EVERY day. You only hafta worry about rain 1x/wk in the NFBC? Are you some kind of weather Nostradamus?

btw, my main point to ALAN (but thanks for joining in) was that he can complain about the OAK-SEA tarp debacle all he wants, that has happened ONCE the entire time I've competed there, so just bad luck. Last night was ALL on him. If you don't want to take the time to check what's going on w/ your $ fine, but that's YOUR fault not FD. To bitch about it after the fact and say DFS sucks when it was your own negligence is wrong. I wonder how he'd feel if he stacked the Rockies w/ Lackey and came away w/ a big GPP last night. I bet he'd be singing a different tune today :roll:
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Post by Fourslot40 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:48 pm

I was one of Fanduel's first customers when DFS was trying to get off the ground. It's been interesting to watch it evolve and grow into this beast. People do win big money. Major DFS players roll with up to 50 lineups or more in a multi-entry tournament format. They will put thousands on the line in a given day and usually play high stakes only. They play on all the sites and look for value opportunities to maximize their potential. Those that play regularly and see the amounts played by particular players would not be surprised at the amounts offered on the commercials. What they do not report are the losses. Many of these same players will be honest that the losses are significant as well.

To the point on lineups, you have to be in front of a computer before game time. Some sites allow lineup changes up until game time and others like FD do not. Checking weather in outdoor events is priority one. Don't discount weather for indoor events for hockey and basketball as major storms can postpone a game too. FDS is enjoyable, but you can't just enter a lineup and check back. It should take a while to create the lineup(s) that works best. Once that lineup is created, you need to be glued to player updates. Picking players in your lineup on Fanduel for early contests where lineups are frozen without seeing the starting lineups for later games is Russian roulette. You have to understand that stuff will happen from time to time no matter how prepared you are.

Just like our season long contest, FDS has their sharks too. They live and breathe FDS all day everyday. They play on all the sites and prey on those who play casually. If you play, be prepared. If it's pencil whipped and you treat FDS as a way to pass time or as a free ESPN league, you most likely will not succeed. Sorry to hear of the bad experience, but dust yourself off and try again. It is enjoyable when you win. :D

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Post by BK METS » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:18 pm

Fourslot40 wrote:I was one of Fanduel's first customers when DFS was trying to get off the ground. It's been interesting to watch it evolve and grow into this beast. People do win big money. Major DFS players roll with up to 50 lineups or more in a multi-entry tournament format. They will put thousands on the line in a given day and usually play high stakes only. They play on all the sites and look for value opportunities to maximize their potential. Those that play regularly and see the amounts played by particular players would not be surprised at the amounts offered on the commercials. What they do not report are the losses. Many of these same players will be honest that the losses are significant as well.

To the point on lineups, you have to be in front of a computer before game time. Some sites allow lineup changes up until game time and others like FD do not. Checking weather in outdoor events is priority one. Don't discount weather for indoor events for hockey and basketball as major storms can postpone a game too. FDS is enjoyable, but you can't just enter a lineup and check back. It should take a while to create the lineup(s) that works best. Once that lineup is created, you need to be glued to player updates. Picking players in your lineup on Fanduel for early contests where lineups are frozen without seeing the starting lineups for later games is Russian roulette. You have to understand that stuff will happen from time to time no matter how prepared you are.

Just like our season long contest, FDS has their sharks too. They live and breathe FDS all day everyday. They play on all the sites and prey on those who play casually. If you play, be prepared. If it's pencil whipped and you treat FDS as a way to pass time or as a free ESPN league, you most likely will not succeed. Sorry to hear of the bad experience, but dust yourself off and try again. It is enjoyable when you win. :D
Thanks for the feedback. Good to hear you have had a good experience. Not for me. I enjoy it with football, not with baseball. Too much can happen, circumstances you can never predict... guys get a night off, after you lock in your lineups earlier, rainouts, etc. I understand there are different contests for early games or late games, but even so, too much on the line for one night. Draft Kings appears to have the ability to edit your lineup for the late games, after the early games have started, which is a nice feature that Fan Duel doesn't have.. either way, I spend too much time on fantasy baseball, as it is, I don't need to start looking at the weather forecasts in 15 cities every day... at least in football, its only once per week.

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Post by rockitsauce » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:25 pm

Fourslot40 wrote:I was one of Fanduel's first customers when DFS was trying to get off the ground. It's been interesting to watch it evolve and grow into this beast. People do win big money. Major DFS players roll with up to 50 lineups or more in a multi-entry tournament format. They will put thousands on the line in a given day and usually play high stakes only. They play on all the sites and look for value opportunities to maximize their potential. Those that play regularly and see the amounts played by particular players would not be surprised at the amounts offered on the commercials. What they do not report are the losses. Many of these same players will be honest that the losses are significant as well.

To the point on lineups, you have to be in front of a computer before game time. Some sites allow lineup changes up until game time and others like FD do not. Checking weather in outdoor events is priority one. Don't discount weather for indoor events for hockey and basketball as major storms can postpone a game too. FDS is enjoyable, but you can't just enter a lineup and check back. It should take a while to create the lineup(s) that works best. Once that lineup is created, you need to be glued to player updates. Picking players in your lineup on Fanduel for early contests where lineups are frozen without seeing the starting lineups for later games is Russian roulette. You have to understand that stuff will happen from time to time no matter how prepared you are.

Just like our season long contest, FDS has their sharks too. They live and breathe FDS all day everyday. They play on all the sites and prey on those who play casually. If you play, be prepared. If it's pencil whipped and you treat FDS as a way to pass time or as a free ESPN league, you most likely will not succeed. Sorry to hear of the bad experience, but dust yourself off and try again. It is enjoyable when you win. :D
good stuff bro...agree completely. To borrow a line from MtM, if I had McJester's $ I'd burn mine :lol: (as if I have any :roll: )


Tonight I did one of my classic moves - swapped out Abreu for Freddie Freeman! to borrow a line from that Southern Gentlemen - aka Edward's Kings...that was quite a kick in the johnnies :(


I find in MLB that I can leave much salary on the table, unlike in NBA when you're basically forced to pay up for KD or Bron (SF is such a wasteland) but leaving that $1500 or more just seems like I'm making the wrong move and I 2nd guess myself to death.

That's one advantage I'll give season-long lge's, at least you're "forced" to play w/ who ya drafted !
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Post by Sack » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:08 am

Rock it:

When the infamous Joe Anthony wakes this morning and realizes his Super entry now
has NINE players injured thanks to Paxton last evening he may be reaching out for some help/advice
On those daily games offered by FD.

Go easy on him Brother! ;)

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Post by BK METS » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:53 am

Fourslot40 wrote:I was one of Fanduel's first customers when DFS was trying to get off the ground. It's been interesting to watch it evolve and grow into this beast. People do win big money. Major DFS players roll with up to 50 lineups or more in a multi-entry tournament format. They will put thousands on the line in a given day and usually play high stakes only. They play on all the sites and look for value opportunities to maximize their potential. Those that play regularly and see the amounts played by particular players would not be surprised at the amounts offered on the commercials. What they do not report are the losses. Many of these same players will be honest that the losses are significant as well.

To the point on lineups, you have to be in front of a computer before game time. Some sites allow lineup changes up until game time and others like FD do not. Checking weather in outdoor events is priority one. Don't discount weather for indoor events for hockey and basketball as major storms can postpone a game too. FDS is enjoyable, but you can't just enter a lineup and check back. It should take a while to create the lineup(s) that works best. Once that lineup is created, you need to be glued to player updates. Picking players in your lineup on Fanduel for early contests where lineups are frozen without seeing the starting lineups for later games is Russian roulette. You have to understand that stuff will happen from time to time no matter how prepared you are.

Just like our season long contest, FDS has their sharks too. They live and breathe FDS all day everyday. They play on all the sites and prey on those who play casually. If you play, be prepared. If it's pencil whipped and you treat FDS as a way to pass time or as a free ESPN league, you most likely will not succeed. Sorry to hear of the bad experience, but dust yourself off and try again. It is enjoyable when you win. :D
As a follow up, I was just looking at the early contest for Fan Duel.. just thinking of doing a low priced 50/50 league. There are 5 games in the early bracket, including one that starts in 15 minutes, plus it also includes 2 later games at 3:30 (ChicW vs Col) and 4:05 (Tex vs Bos). Currently, the lineups are available for the early games, but not for the later games. There is no new news out for either game and nothing from either of their websites or twitter, about anybody sitting, other than Grady Sizemore. If I want to put in Wilin Rosario as my catcher and the manager decides to rest him, I am screwed. This is what I mean. In the NFBC and other sites, you can switch, right up until gametime, but these one day leagues (other than Draft Kings, which allows it), you have no recourse. So, what do you do? Just put in guys from the earlier games or gamble that Rosario is going to play? This is only a $25 league... what about the $500 and $1,000 leagues? Do these players have inside info on lineups prior to 1:00, on the later games? Why would you gamble that much money on uncertain players? I guess there are a lot of players, so maybe I am in the minority, but these 1 day leagues are a complete gamble, very little skill involved.. Just my opinion... and NO, Greg did not ask me to write this.. in fact the NFBC has a partnership with Fan Duel.

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Post by Fourslot40 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:24 am

This is definitely an issue with Fanduel and other sites that lock down at the start of a contest. In my opinion, if there are not eight lineups or more available prior to the start, I just don't play. What many will do with four lineups available, is stack a lineup. Load up against the weakest two pitchers on the board. In FD, you can start four players from one team in a given lineup. This is really the only safe option. In head-to-head contests, a zero score from a player will not bury you in baseball like it will in other FDS sports, so some will take the risk. In a tourney, a zero point player ruins any shot.

Overall, my personal opinion is to stack against the two weakest pitchers while using the best pitcher on the board in your lineup and stay away from games where there are no available lineups. I could not in good conscience risk a goose egg without some form of solid information. Just my opinion. Whatever you decide, good luck! :)

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Post by BK METS » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:35 am

Fourslot40 wrote:This is definitely an issue with Fanduel and other sites that lock down at the start of a contest. In my opinion, if there are not eight lineups or more available prior to the start, I just don't play. What many will do with four lineups available, is stack a lineup. Load up against the weakest two pitchers on the board. In FD, you can start four players from one team in a given lineup. This is really the only safe option. In head-to-head contests, a zero score from a player will not bury you in baseball like it will in other FDS sports, so some will take the risk. In a tourney, a zero point player ruins any shot.

Overall, my personal opinion is to stack against the two weakest pitchers while using the best pitcher on the board in your lineup and stay away from games where there are no available lineups. I could not in good conscience risk a goose egg without some form of solid information. Just my opinion. Whatever you decide, good luck! :)
OK. So, I joined a 50/50 league. I saw the Rockies beat writer on twitter right at 1:01 PM ET say that Tulo is NOT starting. There are 6 teams in my league, 2 of which have Tulo starting. Good for me, but probably just lucky. When its a day like this, where the 2 best offensive games are starting later (and the worst pitchers, IMO), then what do you do? Rosario could have easily been benched, but he wasn't. I know that Tulo had a quad issue the other night, but he played last night.

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Post by Oaktown » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:40 am

BK METS wrote:
Fourslot40 wrote:This is definitely an issue with Fanduel and other sites that lock down at the start of a contest. In my opinion, if there are not eight lineups or more available prior to the start, I just don't play. What many will do with four lineups available, is stack a lineup. Load up against the weakest two pitchers on the board. In FD, you can start four players from one team in a given lineup. This is really the only safe option. In head-to-head contests, a zero score from a player will not bury you in baseball like it will in other FDS sports, so some will take the risk. In a tourney, a zero point player ruins any shot.

Overall, my personal opinion is to stack against the two weakest pitchers while using the best pitcher on the board in your lineup and stay away from games where there are no available lineups. I could not in good conscience risk a goose egg without some form of solid information. Just my opinion. Whatever you decide, good luck! :)
OK. So, I joined a 50/50 league. I saw the Rockies beat writer on twitter right at 1:01 PM ET say that Tulo is NOT starting. There are 6 teams in my league, 2 of which have Tulo starting. Good for me, but probably just lucky. When its a day like this, where the 2 best offensive games are starting later (and the worst pitchers, IMO), then what do you do? Rosario could have easily been benched, but he wasn't. I know that Tulo had a quad issue the other night, but he played last night.
You check it right before the deadline. The Rockies lineup was out 5 minutes before the deadline and I moved Rosario in as a result. And the Rangers/Red Sox/White Sox lineups were all up way before the deadline. If it had not come up, I wouldnt have played any catcher or questionable guys on the missing lineup.

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Post by rockitsauce » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:36 pm

Sack wrote:Rock it:

When the infamous Joe Anthony wakes this morning and realizes his Super entry now
has NINE players injured thanks to Paxton last evening he may be reaching out for some help/advice
On those daily games offered by FD.

Go easy on him Brother! ;)
Sack-Attack! I have a feeling when Matt Moore comes back from his visit w/ Dr. Death he's gonna look like this young chap :lol:
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Post by rockitsauce » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:44 pm

Oaktown wrote: You check it right before the deadline. The Rockies lineup was out 5 minutes before the deadline and I moved Rosario in as a result. And the Rangers/Red Sox/White Sox lineups were all up way before the deadline. If it had not come up, I wouldnt have played any catcher or questionable guys on the missing lineup.
BINGO...we have a winner ! There Alan, is it so hard....thanks for letting me know for sure Greg didn't pay you for writing negative stuff about DFS. I was wondering what those FD guys were doing lurking around Vegas last yr, and the Friday contests we have here, and the viewing party they sponsored.... ;) :lol: :shock:

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Post by Fourslot40 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:51 pm

Depends on the contest if you do not get information in time. It's completely risk/ reward in that scenario. In a tournament format, I would never take the risk of getting a goose egg. It eliminates any shot. Usually, the larger tournaments are held when there are many games on tap so there will be many starting options available where no risk is required. In your league today, Tulo's salary is large enough to where the team is now completely reliant on much lower value guys to make up for it. It's an advantage, but not a lock. In a 50/ 50 where you only need to finish in the top half, you can take the risk and still place with a goose egg in your lineup. I'm not advocating taking the risk, I wouldn't do it, but the loss isn't as significant as football or basketball where the zero is too damaging in all contests.

It really just depends on whether you can live with yourself when the lineup card comes out and the player is not on it. Judging on how disappointed you were recently with players not playing, I would advise on taking the sure thing and be confident that you know you have a full lineup.

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Post by rockitsauce » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:04 pm

Fourslot40 wrote:In a tournament format, I would never take the risk of getting a goose egg. It eliminates any shot.
Not true. MLB (out of NBA & NFL) is the only one where you CAN take a goose egg or even negative points and STILL win a GPP. It's not easy, but it can be done IF you got the right other players. Last night you absolutely HAD to have Abreu & Avisail.

Here is link to last nt's Line Drive to prove my pt -

https://www.fanduel.com/contest/2002077 ... 001709101/

*Should add that (for MLB) coming in 1st place is certainly harder taking a donut in a GPP, but cashing on the other hand is def. not out of the question. In NBA/NFL it almost certainly is.
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