Tulo and Cargo

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Tulo and Cargo

Post by Outlaw » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:44 am

Both are Fools Gold the past few years. Now both appear Gone for the season, Tulo with possible Hip Labrum issue ala Arod and Cargo with CC's disease, the old degenerative knee problem. How far do they fall in next years drafts and do some see them as undraftable in rounds 1-2?

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Re: Tulo and Cargo

Post by joshguy » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:48 pm

Id be more inclined to take Tulo. In a DC, I would just be sure to draft a very solid backup SS. In an OC league, sure why not, 12 team league, I think I can recover a little bit easier. In a ME league, I stay away from both if possible.

120 games has to be considered a full season when drafting Tulo.

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Re: Tulo and Cargo

Post by Outlaw » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:52 am

They are both damaged goods. Tulo will be 30 in 2 months, Cargo, 29. They'll each probably have a season where they might play 150 games over the next 5 years, problem is, which year does it happen. I think Tulo is done is as SS with his type of injury. Cargo, who knows, either he recovers 100% with his bad knee or he'll have it the rest of his career Both would do well to go to the AL where they can DH sometimes. Both could also play 1B, especially Tulo. I think Tulo is no better than 3-4 round next year, Cargo could be 2-4 rd. All depends though on their recovery. Those drafting early could get burned, those drafting later will have the advantage of knowing more about their recoveries.

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Re: Tulo and Cargo

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:25 am

Mike, you are discounting the poor management of the Rockies. CarGo and, in particular, Tulo, rule the Rockies.
These two inmates run the prison yard, the guards, and even the warden.
Shortstop kicks Tulo's ass. He's a good shortstop who still likes to show off his arm. In showing off his arm, he'll throw from positions that takes a toll on his body. He's done it so long, it has become common place for Tulo.
The Rockies Management knows this and have gone to Tulo to inquire about a possible position change.
It went like this:
Rockies: "Troy, would you consider changing positions to stay healthy?"
Tulo: "No"
Rockies: "Ok, just asking."
Tulo should have been moved to 3b several injuries ago. The truth is, he does want to play anywhere but shortstop. and like Lola from 'Damn Yankees', 'Whatever Tulo wants, Tulo gets'.
Now, the Rockies have the best fielding 3b in baseball and Tulo, at 30 and with yet another injury, has nowhere to move, even if the Rockies Management did have backbone enough to force a move.

Fans and players are grumbling though. And when fans and players grumble, it is a sign that Management has to do something big or fear for their jobs. Doing something big is usually preferable for these fellas.
Tired of the persistent losing, the fans and player grumbling could result in a trade. And even Tulo has stated that he wants to play for a winner. In his mind, he thinks he is the guy to replace childhood idol, Derek Jeter.
If this or another trade happens, fantasy players will now have two red flags when thinking of drafting Tulo.

1. It is doubtful that a new organization will ask Tulo to switch positions. So, for fantasy minds, he'll still carry the same health risks.

2. He moves away from the best hitting park in baseball. In the past, the splits have not been as wide, but this year Tulo hit .417 at home (yes, that's right) and .257 on the road. He also had twice as many homers at home as on the road. In fact, he had 14 homers at home and only 14 extra base hits, total, on the road. Only 14.

Earlier this year, fantasy players were thinking Tulo was a top five player. The truth is, he is.
But, it comes with those two magical words for fantasy players in every realm, if healthy.
Tulo is the ultimate risk/reward player. His reward is higher than almost any other player in baseball. But, as long as he remains at shortstop, the risk seems a little steeper than the reward.
On my tombstone-
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!

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Re: Tulo and Cargo

Post by Outlaw » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:19 am

Don't disagree with any of that about Tulo Dan - all the more reason though to avoid him the first few rounds... way too much risk... as for next year, I wouldn't even touch him until I seem play in a spring game... Everything that comes out will say he will be ready for next season for marketing purposes, until that day comes and hes not ready... let other fantasy players think hes a bargain in round 2-3

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