Suspened Game Stats

[Cocktails and Dreams]

And then I cannot base a lineup for this period after seeing what happens with my players that are pitching during this period, but are not scored for the period they actually pitch. I am told the original game time is the deadline, even though that is not the new scheduled time. Even MLB season ticket listed the game at 4:30 central. Sportline at 5:00 central. 3:05 central here. So I cannot even watch Romo and Casilla get used and decide if I want to pitch them or not for this period, while not getting the deserved good Romo outing and the Casilla save that they rightfully earned during the period going on now. The new scheduled time is 30 minutes after other game ends, not 3:05. The entire thing really pisses me off. I don't even like fantasy baseball very much in the first place.

[Bama]

Ill take the other side of this argument. I think the way that the NFBC handles this is the right way and consistent with how other fantasy operators and MLB handle the stats.. Don't really see any other fair way to do it. Maybe because it didn't seem to benefit someone the way they hoped then they're a lilte sensitive to how it was done but this is the only way for it to be done fairly. just me 2 cents worth on the subject.


Regarding the lineup lock alays been a proponet of the lineups locking at the start time of the first game of the period whenever that is and nobody should be locked till the game actually starts if that is possible.

[Greg Ambrosius]

So.....the stats are now included in our totals? How do we know? Are they showing up in the May period? I don't see them in the current period. Overall standings now include all games played except for the other suspended game?

Correct. Overall standings still don't include the Kansas City-Cleveland game from Sunday night that will be made up on Sept. 22nd.

[DOUGHBOYS]

Ill take the other side of this argument. I think the way that the NFBC handles this is the right way and consistent with how other fantasy operators and MLB handle the stats.. Don't really see any other fair way to do it. Maybe because it didn't seem to benefit someone the way they hoped then they're a lilte sensitive to how it was done but this is the only way for it to be done fairly. just me 2 cents worth on the subject.


Regarding the lineup lock alays been a proponet of the lineups locking at the start time of the first game of the period whenever that is and nobody should be locked till the game actually starts if that is possible.

I don't have a dog (or player) in this fight. Only common sense. I agree with Chad (who I think does though )
Rats ass as to how MLB and other operators do it. If it can be done better (May stats in May, September stats in September), then why not IMPROVE on what is already out there?
MLB runs a baseball game, not a fantasy game. They do what is right for them.
I'm guessing fantasy operators follow suit because it is better progammable ( a made up word).
Besides, a nice benefit to this would be that all of our stats would be up to date each and every day of the season. Not 'continued' after suspended games are finished.
It just makes sense.
When an owner makes a lineup in May, he has a high expectation that the full game will be played, a low expectation of a rainout, but no expectation at all of those players being used in September.
It isn't fair.
In May, a hot throwing and Win-Vulturing Machi may have been in the lineup. In September, not a thought.
The fair thing to do is use May's stats as May results and Septembers stats for the September lineups.
My thoughts probably aren't worth two cents....

I agree with the lineup locking at game time, not five minutes before. With technology now, this should be a no-brainer.

[Cocktails and Dreams]

Ill take the other side of this argument. I think the way that the NFBC handles this is the right way and consistent with how other fantasy operators and MLB handle the stats.. Don't really see any other fair way to do it. Maybe because it didn't seem to benefit someone the way they hoped then they're a lilte sensitive to how it was done but this is the only way for it to be done fairly. just me 2 cents worth on the subject.


Regarding the lineup lock alays been a proponet of the lineups locking at the start time of the first game of the period whenever that is and nobody should be locked till the game actually starts if that is possible.

I would think you would know me better than that. Ask yourself if you really think that I would think it should be how they are doing it if it benefits me. You know the answer to that. I thought I knew you better than that as well. Perhaps it is you that agrees with it since it benefits you. You don't see any other fair way to do it? Seriously? How about give guys that are playing baseball the stats for when they play baseball. That seems pretty fair.

[GetALife]

This game picks up tomorrow. Explain to me how this will work. As of now, my understanding is that none of the stats from that game are included in our totals. Will all of the stats from the completed game (from players who were in our lineups in May) be included in our stats regardless of whether the players are still in our lineup this week? Or even if they are still on our team? What if they are now on another NFBC team?

Correct. MLB treats the continuation of these games statistically as having happened on the days they were begun and so does the NFBC. Everyone who had any player in their starting lineup back on May 22nd accumulates stats for those players today and all stats from that game will run tonight.

Much has changed since then, but blame MLB for making these two teams finish this game three months later. It's fair to those owners who had these players in their starting lineups back in May to get complete stats from this game, even if it is being finished on Sept. 1st. According to all MLB records, this is the May 22nd game.

You're dam right it is fair. Whether bad or good stats....it's right and obvious that if those players were in ones lineup that week the game was suspended.....etc.
This is common sense, and as long as the system has the record for that day and can run it; nothing should change about the handling of it. Certainly, nobody deserves credit for that game because that player is "now" on their roster when it was not before. The game was s-u-s-p-e-n-d-e-d....not starting new on this new day in September. It's still figuratively being played in May. So just pretend it is dammit, can't you? What I don't understand is why they can't be big boys and finish the game the next time they have the same "off" day regardless of their flight plans, etc. I'm sure the teams can afford separate flights for just the suspended game.

[G1AZM]

I honestly am on the fence on this issue. What if you were a Romo owner in May and SF had scored 2 runs in the top of the 6th and had a 4-2 lead at the time of the suspension? Then it would seem rather unfair to that owner who was in line for a potential save opportunity to not receive it when he was rostered in May and current Romo owners have little business using him now as he's not an active closer. However, there are other aspects of this that do stink out loud and my opinion is the main thing is that this has to be clearly determined and covered in the rules for next season.

Not on to my beef: it is totally unacceptable that the stats are not being shown until the next day for these suspended games. Today's Pit/Chi game is currently not reflected anywhere so that concept that any "live scoring" today is accurate is completely compromised. Can this really be this hard from an IT perspective? For a contest that considers itself first rate, this is pathetic.

[G1AZM]

I just went back and read through this post again and am now off the fence. I agree that MLB allows modified rosters, and NFBC should do the same. The solution is simple really: if the game is suspended, book those stats just like it was a completed game for that day; when the game resumes, have IT treat the remainder of the stats like it was a doubleheader using our current rosters. Then we wouldn't have to consider every day who has Alex Gordon's home run that isn't currently reflected and needs to be added to their stats to have an accurate view of the current standings. I sure wish I had Yan Gomes 4 for 5 and Cody Allen's apparent W in the back pocket to give my Sept 22 stats a boost. RIDICULOUS!

[DOUGHBOYS]

A voice of reason.
Stats from yesterdays games should be in today's stats. Today's stats should be in the 'live' scoring.
All stats up to date.
Continuation of any stats in a suspended game, would be in that future day's stats.
No matter the scenarios concocted for suspended games, it is the best way to handle the statistics.