A bad hop is not an error

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by Deadheadz » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:33 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:There are so many conspiracy theorists in this world.
And all of them seem to always find a conspiracy, but have the wrong reasoning.
I can guarantee that this scorekeeper is not playing a daily fantasy game.
Geez, I used a winkey face when I said that and you're at least the 2nd person who thinks I was serious.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by KJ Duke » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:55 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:There are so many conspiracy theorists in this world.
And all of them seem to always find a conspiracy, but have the wrong reasoning.
I can guarantee that this scorekeeper is not playing a daily fantasy game.
Seriously, earned runs or not, was Tillman's effort today worth a damn?

As for the play, I would expect the ruling to be overturned.
Travis Snider is a clunky outfielder. He looks uncoordinated even on casual plays.
The scorekeeper may have asked himself, 'Would 50 percent or more of right fielders had made that play?
And came up with the answer of yes. And, he may be right.
More thought needs to go into that play than simply that question though.
After Snider's step in, he gave maximum effort to catch the ball. The ball tipping his glove.
The tip may have swayed the scorekeeper in the 50 % question asked of himself, but, to me, the ball was hit hard, Snider gave maximum effort and could not catch the ball....albeit in Sniderish awkwardness.
I would have awarded Travis a hit.
Thanks, agree with your assessment completely. I understand why someone who looks at that play would say it should be an error (Snider blew it) ... but it seems amatuerish at best and ignorant at worst for an "official scorer" to rule it that way.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by Cocktails and Dreams » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:50 pm

It should obviously be a hit. This comes from a non Travis owner and an owner of Tillman plenty. This call is right up there with that White Sox Giants game last year when they called obstruction at the plate when he was out by 25 feet or so and then opted to not rule an error on the catcher who didn't make the routine play(even though he did make it).

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by Daveclum » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:02 am

I think it will be changed.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by mattjb » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:12 am

I am a completely bias Tillman owner. But...

Travis Snider: "I misplayed it. That is a ball that has to be caught,"

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by mattjb » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:35 am

If it is going to be changed what is the latest that can happen?

What would happen if this was on the last day of the season and it affected the overall title?

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by Daveclum » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:40 am

mattjb wrote:If it is going to be changed what is the latest that can happen?

What would happen if this was on the last day of the season and it affected the overall title?
Years ago (before the review system) Greg Maddux thought his cubs shortstop deserved an error in an early may game. He called the mlb office all year until the official scorer finally changed the call for him in September. Turning 6 runs into unearned.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by Cocktails and Dreams » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:39 pm

It is changed to three RBI double. Not sure when it will be reflected here.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by mattjb » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:37 pm

Cocktails and Dreams wrote:It is changed to three RBI double. Not sure when it will be reflected here.
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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by KJ Duke » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:20 pm

Cocktails and Dreams wrote:It is changed to three RBI double. Not sure when it will be reflected here.
Awesome, I hadn't seen that.

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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:50 pm

It was the right thing to do.
The scorekeeper should have talked himself out of that call before the game was over.
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Re: A bad hop is not an error

Post by mattjb » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:51 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:It was the right thing to do.
The scorekeeper should have talked himself out of that call before the game was over.
Interested to know how the NFBC handle this type of situation on the last day of the season.

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