With All due Respect

[Cocktails and Dreams]

That record keeping discrepancy could have been remedied with a email to Greg or Tom. This was something you wanted to talk about with an audience.

Here's my point. It's fine to not like people. I'm nursing a couple 30 year old grudges that I love like old friends. Roughly the same amount of time that's passed since I spent any time with the objects of my scorn.

You guys, on the other hand, are some of the best roto players in the world and hopefully you'll all live long lives and spend a good portion of them competing against each other in these contests. You don't have to like everybody, but repeating the same insults and accusations reflects poorly on everybody, including the NFBC itself, if a new board member happens to check out one of these redundant smack threads.[/quote]

You bring up some great points. I cannot speak for Joe, but I agree with them. Keep in mind, you don't have jealous unhinged lunatics attacking you though. And also keep in mind that it is possible that it was emailed to Tom and or Greg. And perhaps they didn't fix it. Although your advice is much better and more appropriate, mine would be not to assume things. They don't want to change it for some reason. I won't assume any reasons why.

[Money]

That record keeping discrepancy could have been remedied with a email to Greg or Tom. This was something you wanted to talk about with an audience.

Here's my point. It's fine to not like people. I'm nursing a couple 30 year old grudges that I love like old friends. Roughly the same amount of time that's passed since I spent any time with the objects of my scorn.


You guys, on the other hand, are some of the best roto players in the world and hopefully you'll all live long lives and spend a good portion of them competing against each other in these contests. You don't have to like everybody, but repeating the same insults and accusations reflects poorly on everybody, including the NFBC itself, if a new board member happens to check out one of these redundant smack threads.[/quote]

I agree.

[Glenneration X]

Vulgarity is not what the NFBC is all about.

Hmmmm...... I agree.

You finished second one year in the main event and it was well documented that you fucking cheated.

Go Fuck yourself Mark!

Oops!

[Cocktails and Dreams]

Vulgarity is not what the NFBC is all about.

Hmmmm...... I agree.

You finished second one year in the main event and it was well documented that you fucking cheated.

Go Fuck yourself Mark!

Oops!

Takes a complete douche like you to post things that were edited a long time ago. What the hell is wrong with you? You are seriously sitting there for half an our with Joe's post that was up for about a minute before being edited and come with it an hour or so later? This reminds me of when you bitched about me posting something I emailed you in a private conversation that showed you were a complete loser in that 20k league. I would never post something you emailed me in private. You were too damn stupid to even understand the difference. And it also proved you to be a complete hypocrite.

[Glenneration X]

Vulgarity is not what the NFBC is all about.

Hmmmm...... I agree.

You finished second one year in the main event and it was well documented that you fucking cheated.

Go Fuck yourself Mark!

Oops!

Takes a complete douche like you to post things that were edited a long time ago. What the hell is wrong with you? You are seriously sitting there for half an our with Joe's post that was up for about a minute before being edited and come with it an hour or so later? This reminds me when you bitched about me posting something I emailed you you in a private conversation that showed you were a complete loser in that 20k league. And also a complete hypocrite.

I can still post the original email you sent me that night Chad. Just give me the word Bud and I'll post it right here and we'll let your audience that you obviously care so much about decide who's the loser and who's the hypocrite and who's the cheat. I'm sure I already know your answer.

[Money]

Vulgarity is not what the NFBC is all about.

Hmmmm...... I agree.

You finished second one year in the main event and it was well documented that you fucking cheated.

Go Fuck yourself Mark!

Oops!

As Chad said, I edited it right away, I'll own it. It's what I wrote. Glenn the jealousy all of you have demonstrated is fine. It reared its ugly head in the platinum that year. How about we take those decisions to the Steve Wilkos show on the east coast. We can donate a lot of money to charity over the results!

[Glenneration X]

Vulgarity is not what the NFBC is all about.

Hmmmm...... I agree.

You finished second one year in the main event and it was well documented that you fucking cheated.

Go Fuck yourself Mark!

Oops!

As Chad said, I edited it right away, I'll own it. It's what I wrote. Glenn the jealousy all of you have demonstrated is fine. It reared its ugly head in the platinum that year. How about we take those decisions to the Steve Wilkos show on the east coast. We can donate a lot of money to charity over the results!

No worries Joe Money. I just figured it was a couple of your multiple personalities posting without the other knowing about it.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I tell new folks that wonder what it's like to go to the Main Event how wonderful the folks from the NFBC are to meet.
I tell them they won't meet better folks than the fellas that attend these drafts.
What's worse is that Greg is dealing with real life hardships and has to come back and read all this crap.
Nothing is being accomplished here. Please go to your neutral corners.
And stop.

[Money]

Regardless of the number of personalities, they all seem to win!

[uky]

I tell new folks that wonder what it's like to go to the Main Event how wonderful the folks from the NFBC are to meet.
I tell them they won't meet better folks than the fellas that attend these drafts.
What's worse is that Greg is dealing with real life hardships and has to come back and read all this crap.
Nothing is being accomplished here. Please go to your neutral corners.
And stop.

Thank you Dan, maybe your voice of reason will help....

[Cocktails and Dreams]

I can still post the original email you sent me that night Chad. Just give me the word Bud and I'll post it right here and we'll let your audience that you obviously care so much about decide who's the loser and who's the hypocrite and who's the cheat. I'm sure I already know your answer. [/quote]

Don't call me Bud. We aren't buds. I certainly considered you one for quite some time. A time when I called and congratulated you when you passed me from a fair bit back the last week to win the ffwc for 150k. And you can tell everyone here if there was a single ounce of insincere tone in my voice. But that ship sailed. Many actions of yours have been odd since. It is like you are trying to get noticed or something. These odd blogs that you keep going when doing well and shitcan when you are getting your ass handed to you. To football rulings you have bitched about incorrectly elsewhere etc. But even then, I would have considered you a bud. But when you accuse me of slandering you, not so much. When some asshole is going to make that unfounded accusation then they better have some proof. You didn't. You don't You won't. Ask anyone at any football draft we were in if they think I think you and I are "buds." No, they don't. And most of them know why. And most of them like me a hell of a lot more than they like you. And even then, out of respect for the games they provide us, I did not ever make it uncomfortable for anyone, or cause any type of scene for anyone, even after you made this asinine slander accusation. If you ever accept responsibility for your your action and apologize I will probably accept it.

As for the original email, I will do you one better. I will post it. I need to put a couple things into context, so it can be looked at from a fair viewpoint, unlike Shawn Childs asinine analysis a while back. In the 2nd to last week Glenn left Colmenter out of his lineup for a suspended Papelbon. Colmenter stats from his last 4 starts entering this lineup decision were 27 2/3rds innings ERA .66, whip of .65 19k and 2 wins. He opted for a suspended Papelbon over that. Then the last week Colmenter is going twice. Don't guys usually play two start pitchers that are white hot entering the last week of the season if setting a proper lineup? I know I do. Glenn doesn't though. You will have to ask him why. He did say he set his lineup though. Colmenter line on the bench for suspended Papelbon. 8 innings 2 earned .875 whip. Probably want to play him going twice the last week if setting a lineup right? Nope Glenn had other ideas. His tire fire team had better options that a white hot Comenter. So now that it is in context, here is the email I originally sent Glenn that he "threatened" to post.

Hey man, would it be a problem to set a lineup in platinum. People battling our asses off to try and win and I wouldn't expect guys like you to not play out a 20k league. You are one win behind Johnson and can get him in k's also. There are points to be gained and see you have Papelbon in last week and still this week over Colmenter. I know I spoke to you a couple years ago about someone else not setting a lineup in big league and you said it would not be out of line to contact them, so I am doing that here. Maybe you prefer Papelbon over Colmenter, but simply looked like you didn't adjust it last week or this week. Would be much appreciated if you would. Thanks.

Chad

[Cocktails and Dreams]

I tell new folks that wonder what it's like to go to the Main Event how wonderful the folks from the NFBC are to meet.
I tell them they won't meet better folks than the fellas that attend these drafts.
What's worse is that Greg is dealing with real life hardships and has to come back and read all this crap.
Nothing is being accomplished here. Please go to your neutral corners.
And stop.

Dan, I have more respect for you than almost anyone that steps foot on these boards. That being said, lets not try to make this into a life or death situation, even if some personal situations might be. It is a bit over the top. I think I can speak for everyone here in wishing Greg the best. We don't need a mall cop.

[uky]

I don't mind saying these are some of the worst post from some of the best fantasy players in the "WORLD". C'mon guys, get your grind on, prepare for your next draft/league. TRY to leave your animosity for each other off the boards.

[Yah Mule]

I tell new folks that wonder what it's like to go to the Main Event how wonderful the folks from the NFBC are to meet.
I tell them they won't meet better folks than the fellas that attend these drafts.
What's worse is that Greg is dealing with real life hardships and has to come back and read all this crap.
Nothing is being accomplished here. Please go to your neutral corners.
And stop.

Dan, I have more respect for you than almost anyone that steps foot on these boards. That being said, lets not try to make this into a life or death situation, even if some personal situations might be. It is a bit over the top. I think I can speak for everyone here in wishing Greg the best. We don't need a mall cop.

Well, do you think you guys can stop the public pissing matches where you impugn each other's integrity with charges of lying and cheating? Greg and Tom are actually trying to run a business here. If someone new to the NFBC were to read a thread like this, why would he or she want to put down large sums of money to compete with a bunch of purported cheaters and poor sports? This is selfish nonsense and you all know it.

[Greg Ambrosius]

This entire thread is so disappointing in so many ways and we will lock it after my post. Yes, I get the last word on this.

First of all, the initial post just invited this kind of rhetoric. A simple email to us would have allowed us to look into the situation rather than invite a debate on whether Chad is the greatest fantasy player or not. The bottom line is that I believe the discrepancy in the Career Earnings list between what we have and what Chad/Joe have is in the $75,000 cash bonus that Chad just won. Tom likely didn't include that as part of his Career Earnings, but he said he didn't add it into Lindy's either. So if we're adding those winnings, we'll update the list. Sure, we'll gladly add that as part of the Career Earnings.

There is no "motive" for us not adding that. We don't have the access to this area of the site to just go in and update that number. We need the help of IT to do that and right now they are busy with our new HTML draft room, getting the NFFC site live for 2016 and much, much more. We have requested this change but it's not an easy fix at this time.

There are a lot of great players in our contest. Why anyone would debate who is the VERY best is just stupid. That's first year stuff. You want to prove you are the best? Enter contests this year. Lindy is back in. Joe is back in. Most of the great ones are back in. Chad can get back in if he wants, but at this point he's not entered in any NFBC events.

So with all due respect, the NFBC has more important things to do than monitor the playground once again. We will update the Career Earnings list where needed and even add someone to the NFBC Hall of Fame if it's warranted, but shit like this doesn't help anyone. You really want to have a backyard fight? Meet up in Vegas and duke it out. Until then, take your smack talk somewhere else. Our good customers are looking for draft results, upcoming drafts and baseball talk. And honestly, there are more important life issues and lessons out there than this stupid debate. I know that first-hand. There are a LOT of great fantasy players in the NFBC and every new year presents a new set of challenges for everyone who has the moxie to battle against the best.

Enough now. This thread is locked.