2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

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2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Tom Kessenich » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:20 am

NFBC Cutline Championship
36 Rounds, 55 Seconds Per Pick, $40,000 Grand Prize
Thursday, March 24
7 pm ET League 2
1. Richard Temkin, Farmington Hills, Michigan

8 pm ET
1.

9 pm ET
1. Matthew Ball, Ilion, New York
2. Todd Zola, Milford, Massachusetts

Friday, March 25
1 pm ET
1. michael rosenblum, fair lawn, new jersey

7 pm ET
1. Leo Pawlowski, Oswego, Illinois
2. Thomas Della Croce, Hillsborough, New Jersey
3. Dennis Koerner, westminster, maryland

9 pm ET
1. jeffrey highland, Chicago, Illinois
2. Mike Tott, Fort Worth, Texas
3. Matthew Tavormina, Dayton, New Jersey

Saturday, March 26
7 pm ET
1. james robbins, vernon, new jersey

Sunday, March 27
8 pm ET
1. Jeremy Wilck, Columbus, Ohio

9 pm ET
1. ronald henderson, sun valley, Nevada
2. john hickey, montvale, new jersey
3. Jayson Tenorio, Elmhurst, New York
4. Rick Bay, Flemington, New Jersey
5. Robert Tejchma, Plainfield, Indiana

Monday, March 28
1 pm ET
1. Josh Lindell, Olathe, Kansas

9 pm ET
1. Billy Johnson, Buena Park, California

Tuesday, March 29
8 pm ET
1. Steven Boren, Bakersfield, California
2. Sean Malakin, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania

9 pm ET
1. Francis Gatti, Marlton, New Jersey

Wednesday March 30
1 pm ET
[/b]1. Doug Townsend, Toronto, Ontario
2. Ronald Troum, Coconut Creek, Florida
3. Dan Fallon, Corona, California
4. Marcus Garcia, Gilroy, California
5. Greg Diehl, Las Vegas, Nevada

7 pm ET
1. Anthony Errico, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 pm ET
1. John Zalewski, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
2. Sean Malakin, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania

9 pm ET
1. Matthew Martens, Columbia, Missouri
2. Andrew Moody, Columbus, Ohio
3. Christopher Ferchen, Niagara Falls, New York

Thursday, March 31
9 pm ET
1. William Voorhees, San Antonio, Texas
2. Salvatore Esposito, North Haledon, New Jersey

10 pm ET
1. Jason Broverman, Lutz, Florida
2. Fred Archer, Kansas City, Missouri
3. Stavros Lazos, Chicago, Illinois

Friday, April 1
1 pm ET
1. Keith Johnson, Lombard, Illinois
2. Ted Goldschmidt, Columbia, Illinois

7 pm ET
1. Stephen John Jupinka, S. Orleans, Massachusetts

8 pm ET
1. John Terrazzano, Toronto, Ontario
2. Anthony Errico, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
3. Darren Seibert, Towson, Maryland
4. Eric David, Boca Raton, Florida
5. Dave Schermann, Peoria, Illinois

9 pm ET
1. Tyson Warm, Fremont, Nebraska

Saturday, April 2
1 pm ET
1. Jeffrey Cook, Little Valley, New York
2. Jeremy Fisher, Cincinnati, Ohio

3 pm ET
1. Anthony Errico, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

7 pm ET
1. Daniel Goolsby, Westminster, Maryland

8 pm ET
1. James Milkowski, Las Vegas, Nevada
2. Jason Cataldo, Geneva, New York

9 pm ET
1. Les Depoali, Sparks, Nevada

Sunday, April 3
Noon ET
1. Kyle Brinkmann, Albion, Illinois
2. Greg Diehl, Las Vegas, Nevada
3. Robert Blackman, Auburn, Maine

1 pm ET
1. Dave Clum, Pembroke Pines, Florida
2. Jeremy Wilck, Columbus, Ohio
3. ken little, pearland, texas
4. Jason Reyes, Chicago, Illinois
5. Don Brady, Rogers, Arkansas
6. George Kleemann, Palatine, Illinois
7. Brandon Wardyn, Bradshaw, Nebraska
8. Chris Lewis, Los Angeles, California
9. Dan Discepoli, Greensboro, North Carolina
10. Gary Fisher, Abingdon, Virginia
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Steel Lugnuts » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:27 pm

I'll eventually sign up for at least one of these, but the scoring in general is kind of wacky. For example, a batter will basically get a -1 for a walk? -1 for the at bat and 0 pts for the walk, yet a pitcher will get a -1 for issuing a walk. Seems like a batter should get +1 for a walk and a -1 for a SO. And a single, double and triple are all 4 pts? Must have been some rhyme or reason to this, just seems strange.

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by KJ Duke » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:53 pm

Steel Lugnuts wrote:I'll eventually sign up for at least one of these, but the scoring in general is kind of wacky. For example, a batter will basically get a -1 for a walk? -1 for the at bat and 0 pts for the walk, yet a pitcher will get a -1 for issuing a walk. Seems like a batter should get +1 for a walk and a -1 for a SO. And a single, double and triple are all 4 pts? Must have been some rhyme or reason to this, just seems strange.
• An official AB is -1, a plate appearance that isn't an official AB (a BB, sac, hpb, etc) is a zero, same as in roto.
• If a player hits 250 (+4 for the H, -4 for 4 ABs) that is a zero for your scoring, roughly the same value as in roto.
• If a player hits less than 250, it is a negative for your team, same as in roto.
• Singles, doubles, triples all have equal value, same as in roto.

See the pattern?

This is roto-style scoring mathematically converted into points to allow for the best ball nature of the contest without significantly changing the value of the player from what they would be worth in a regular roto league. Wacky would not be a good adjective to describe it unless you also consider roto scoring wacky. Unfamiliar? Yes, we're not used to seeing roto value converted into points. And of course, walks and doubles and triples (in comparison to singles) aren't worthless in reality, because each increases the probably of a Run or RBI which is scored, same as in roto.
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Steel Lugnuts » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:09 pm

OK, thanks for the clarification/update KJ, that will help many people I would imagine...and you are correct, I'm not familiar with that roto scoring of which you speak, so the scoring is still kind of whacky! :) I'm thinking most of the users that join might not be familiar with this scoring either, but I could be wrong.

Also, I knew there was a reason for the scoring! ;)

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by KJ Duke » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:12 pm

I don't think its been done before, so it's going to be new for everyone. Someone's got to be the trailblazer ... might as well be the NFBC. :)

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by King Ken » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:06 pm

I will certainly give it a shot this year. I am very attracted to two things:

1. Only having to deal with two FAAB periods for the year, and
2. A draft that only rosters 360 players total (if I understand it correctly. I think it is 10 teams per league for 36 rounds)

Personally, I have a rough time with the Draft Champions league that drafts 750 players deep. My rankings don't even go that far! Before, the only alternative to Draft and hold was to basically join a league with a weekly FAAB, so this will be a nice change of pace.

If I remember correctly, there are also some specials being offered by NFBC for purchasing 3 teams, etc.

Personally, I plan to just use my roto rankings for cutline. It appears that they basically transfer over seamlessly. However, if you have your own advanced cutline-specific ranking that will give you the edge....feel free to jump into a league that you see me in. I wont mind :D

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by judydon » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:34 am

Where are the rules?

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:41 am

judydon wrote:Where are the rules?
Don, here is the Contest Page:

http://nfbc.stats.com/baseball/contest/ ... sp?id=1579

Here are the Rules:

http://nfbc.stats.com/baseball/leagues/ ... sp?id=1579

Enjoy.
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Stevekiel » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:04 pm

Since I was signed up for the Sunday night auction, which was cancelled again, could you switch me to the Sunday night Jan 24th Cutline draft? I assume I would not have to go in and buy a team for the cutline?

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Steel Lugnuts » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:17 pm

When I click on Contests, shouldn't I see a link to this cutline league?

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:03 am

Steel Lugnuts wrote:When I click on Contests, shouldn't I see a link to this cutline league?
Yes, it's there. The link is here:

http://nfbc.stats.com/baseball/contest/ ... sp?id=1579
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:05 am

Stevekiel wrote:Since I was signed up for the Sunday night auction, which was cancelled again, could you switch me to the Sunday night Jan 24th Cutline draft? I assume I would not have to go in and buy a team for the cutline?
Steve, I have removed the $125 Auction and added Sunday's Cutline to your team page. You were never charged for the original $125, so all is good. Welcome to the NFBC Cutline Championship and enjoy on Sunday night.
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Yah Mule » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:43 pm

Steel Lugnuts wrote:I'll eventually sign up for at least one of these, but the scoring in general is kind of wacky. For example, a batter will basically get a -1 for a walk? -1 for the at bat and 0 pts for the walk, yet a pitcher will get a -1 for issuing a walk. Seems like a batter should get +1 for a walk and a -1 for a SO. And a single, double and triple are all 4 pts? Must have been some rhyme or reason to this, just seems strange.
At first, I had reservations about point based scoring, but some pretty sharp guys here ran the numbers on this and it's impressive how well they were able to correlate the scoring systems.

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:28 am

Yah Mule wrote:
Steel Lugnuts wrote:I'll eventually sign up for at least one of these, but the scoring in general is kind of wacky. For example, a batter will basically get a -1 for a walk? -1 for the at bat and 0 pts for the walk, yet a pitcher will get a -1 for issuing a walk. Seems like a batter should get +1 for a walk and a -1 for a SO. And a single, double and triple are all 4 pts? Must have been some rhyme or reason to this, just seems strange.
At first, I had reservations about point based scoring, but some pretty sharp guys here ran the numbers on this and it's impressive how well they were able to correlate the scoring systems.
I would agree. Take a look at some of the Cutline draft results and compare them to the Draft Champions results. They are very similar. It will be fun to unveil the ADPs for both this week.

So far so good. The drafts are getting done anywhere from 2 hours and 15 minutes to 2 hours and 45 minutes. When you get 10 good drafters in a room, these things really cruise. We will learn a lot from this first season and tweak things for next year, but so far so good. Great job everyone.
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by 76erfan » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:31 am

Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Yah Mule wrote:
Steel Lugnuts wrote:I'll eventually sign up for at least one of these, but the scoring in general is kind of wacky. For example, a batter will basically get a -1 for a walk? -1 for the at bat and 0 pts for the walk, yet a pitcher will get a -1 for issuing a walk. Seems like a batter should get +1 for a walk and a -1 for a SO. And a single, double and triple are all 4 pts? Must have been some rhyme or reason to this, just seems strange.
At first, I had reservations about point based scoring, but some pretty sharp guys here ran the numbers on this and it's impressive how well they were able to correlate the scoring systems.
I would agree. Take a look at some of the Cutline draft results and compare them to the Draft Champions results. They are very similar. It will be fun to unveil the ADPs for both this week.

So far so good. The drafts are getting done anywhere from 2 hours and 15 minutes to 2 hours and 45 minutes. When you get 10 good drafters in a room, these things really cruise. We will learn a lot from this first season and tweak things for next year, but so far so good. Great job everyone.
we got done in 2 hours 5 minutes last night

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Fast Eddie » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:02 pm

Greg Ambrosius wrote: I would agree. Take a look at some of the Cutline draft results and compare them to the Draft Champions results. They are very similar. It will be fun to unveil the ADPs for both this week.
Of the 37 current ADP results, 6 are Live and 31 are Slow draft...are these 6 "Live" actually the Cutline results to date?

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Cyclones » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:13 am

Greg,

Free weekend....
I would like to do at least 1 of these cutline draft this weekend. Time doesn't really matter.

Thanks

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:23 am

Cyclones wrote:Greg,

Free weekend....
I would like to do at least 1 of these cutline draft this weekend. Time doesn't really matter.

Thanks
We have drafts Friday-Sunday. Here's a link to the contest page where you can see all the upcoming dates and times.

http://nfbc.stats.com/baseball/contest/ ... sp?id=1579
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Cyclones » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:38 am

Will pick one - just wanted to make sure the one I pick fills and runs. Maybe they will all fill, I dont pay that close attention to that.

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:40 am

Cyclones wrote:Will pick one - just wanted to make sure the one I pick fills and runs. Maybe they will all fill, I dont pay that close attention to that.
We'll have threads in this forum but you can also track all remaining spots on the Countdown page. That is updated in real time when each new signup comes in.

http://nfbc.stats.com/baseball/contest/ ... type_id=25
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by jaked2782 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:02 pm

Would there be enough interest to fill a 10 or 11pm est start? any night of the week would be ok with me..

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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by Rainiers » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:13 pm

jaked2782 wrote:Would there be enough interest to fill a 10 or 11pm est start? any night of the week would be ok with me..
At least one late one a week, during the week, would be great. Out west, these 8 PM (5 PM Pacific) start times are brutally hard to get to.
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Post by Rainiers » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:13 pm

jaked2782 wrote:Would there be enough interest to fill a 10 or 11pm est start? any night of the week would be ok with me..
At least one late one, once a week, during the week, would be great. Out west, these 8 PM (5 PM Pacific) start times are brutally hard to get to.
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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:28 pm

Rainiers wrote:
jaked2782 wrote:Would there be enough interest to fill a 10 or 11pm est start? any night of the week would be ok with me..
At least one late one, once a week, during the week, would be great. Out west, these 8 PM (5 PM Pacific) start times are brutally hard to get to.
Yeah, we can definitely do that. We had good success with the 10 pm ET Cutlines in football. We'll add some late ones for next week and all weeks going forward.
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Re: 2016 NFBC Cutline Signup Thread

Post by jaked2782 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:46 am

Thanks a lot Greg this is great news

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