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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Yah Mule » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:22 pm

Greg Ambrosius wrote:
KJ Duke wrote:Roster expansion was definitely unnecessary.

Drafting 36 in a 10-teamer plays deeper than a 15-team, 50-teamer. Next year I'll push to keep rosters at 36. With a couple FAABs to replace injured guys there's just no need to have more bench guys. Doing FAAB felt like shooting ducks in a zoo full of ducks, not even that strategic just pile up the bodies.
Two months is a long time for injuries to occur on rosters with no pickups. Let's see how things look in June. And then remember there are no roster expansions from that point on. I'm not sure a 36-man roster will hold up from June to mid-September. That would be a reward of staying healthy rather than the best, deepest roster.

But let's see how it looks a few months down the road before making the call for 2017. I think some roster expansion is needed, but to what extent we all can decide at season's end.

Just my two cents.
Maybe we could draft 39 and have a three player expansion in June to plug holes.

I guess the only problem there might be the $998 ten-team tie bids for undisputed rookie roto gods.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:46 pm

KJ Duke wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
KJ Duke wrote:Roster expansion was definitely unnecessary.

Drafting 36 in a 10-teamer plays deeper than a 15-team, 50-teamer. Next year I'll push to keep rosters at 36. With a couple FAABs to replace injured guys there's just no need to have more bench guys. Doing FAAB felt like shooting ducks in a zoo full of ducks, not even that strategic just pile up the bodies.
Two months is a long time for injuries to occur on rosters with no pickups. Let's see how things look in June. And then remember there are no roster expansions from that point on. I'm not sure a 36-man roster will hold up from June to mid-September. That would be a reward of staying healthy rather than the best, deepest roster.

But let's see how it looks a few months down the road before making the call for 2017. I think some roster expansion is needed, but to what extent we all can decide at season's end.

Just my two cents.
If you were doing FAAB tonight you might have a different opinion. :shock:

But yeah, let's see how rosters look in June ... at this point I am betting a 13-man bench of quality players would probably be sufficient. Teams I drafted 3 months ago generally had 1-3 drops each, so even after injuries I was 10-deep on the bench before expansion - and that's a much stronger bench than what we have in Mains. A few more injuries are likely in-season than during the ST months so maybe it will look worse in June, but at this point it sure does feel like rosters would be sufficient at 36.
Let's make a side bet: I bet you and many others want more than 36 players at season's end. I'm not sure what the number is but I bet it's more than 36. Deal?
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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:50 pm

Okay, all Cutline leagues have been run. Enjoy all.
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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Daveclum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:52 pm

Why is Mazara ineligible?

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Post by lrr » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:57 pm

I got royally screwed by the Mazara situation. He was on the free agent list. I bid high on him in a string so that I had to lower bids on other players in other strings. Surprise I did poorly. Good night.

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Post by Rotofan18 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:58 pm

I think I saw somewhere that Greg said he had to have played his first game by 7AM yesterday. Not sure why he was able to be bid on. Wonder how my $355 bids would've faired??......steve

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Post by mattjb » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:00 pm

Well based on my 3 leagues most teams will not have a 41 man roster.

Do these players stats count for this week?

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Post by Daveclum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:00 pm

Rotofan18 wrote:I think I saw somewhere that Greg said he had to have played his first game by 7AM yesterday. Not sure why he was able to be bid on. Wonder how my $355 bids would've faired??......steve
Wouldn't that be main event bids.?

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by BK METS » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:07 pm

Question

There was a $1,000 bid on Trevor Story. Granted the guy looks like a pretty good player, but in this format, with roster sizes increasing and best ball format being used, did this guy pretty much screw himself out of any chance for a victory? I would think that now that he cant bid on anyone else, it would be very difficult to win, short of a miracle with his current roster staying healthy and playing at a very high level. Thoughts? PS. I did get Story in one league for $725, but was able to pick up 4 other players and leave myself $200+ for the last FAAB period. Missed out on him everywhere else, with winning bids of $1,000 and $973.
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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Yah Mule » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:16 pm

My first bid on Story was $555, but I reduced it. The winning bid turned out to be $555 and so was the runner up.

After buying ASanchez, Nicasio, MTaylor, Latos, Colome and Kike Hernandez, I've got eight bucks left for June. :lol:

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Post by bvoorhees13 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:29 pm

Yah Mule wrote:My first bid on Story was $555, but I reduced it. The winning bid turned out to be $555 and so was the runner up.

After buying ASanchez, Nicasio, MTaylor, Latos, Colome and Kike Hernandez, I've got eight bucks left for June. :lol:

Im questioning whether I misread the optimal strategy as i ended up spending $1700 on 13 players in two leagues.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Bama » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:54 pm

Why wasn't bids on Mazara processed .. I don't get it, I guess we just make u the rules as we go

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Post by BK METS » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:06 pm

Bama wrote:Why wasn't bids on Mazara processed .. I don't get it, I guess we just make u the rules as we go
Not eligible because he didnt play his first MLB game until after Sunday at 7am. That is the rule for all FAAB. It was a bit confusing since he was in the FAAB pools.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Yah Mule » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:15 pm

bvoorhees13 wrote:
Yah Mule wrote:My first bid on Story was $555, but I reduced it. The winning bid turned out to be $555 and so was the runner up.

After buying ASanchez, Nicasio, MTaylor, Latos, Colome and Kike Hernandez, I've got eight bucks left for June. :lol:

Im questioning whether I misread the optimal strategy as i ended up spending $1700 on 13 players in two leagues.
I figure the most important thing is trying to get into the championship round. I know I'll be shut out of the most coveted players on the June 11 draw, but I'm hoping the two extra months I own the players I acquired this evening will make it worthwhile.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Le Grand Orange » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:32 pm

Yah Mule wrote:
bvoorhees13 wrote:
Yah Mule wrote:My first bid on Story was $555, but I reduced it. The winning bid turned out to be $555 and so was the runner up.

After buying ASanchez, Nicasio, MTaylor, Latos, Colome and Kike Hernandez, I've got eight bucks left for June. :lol:

Im questioning whether I misread the optimal strategy as i ended up spending $1700 on 13 players in two leagues.
I figure the most important thing is trying to get into the championship round. I know I'll be shut out of the most coveted players on the June 11 draw, but I'm hoping the two extra months I own the players I acquired this evening will make it worthwhile.
My thoughts exactly Jim. I spent $890, $855, and $788 in my three leagues (on guys like White, Sanchez, Taylor, and Gregerson) figuring that the players you buy now have the chance to give you three months of stats before the championship round rather than one month for the players you buy on June 6th. Also, some owners will be out of it come June and will likely not bother bidding, giving you more purchasing power for the money you do have left. Not sure if this is optimal but made sense to me...
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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by KJ Duke » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:05 am

Greg Ambrosius wrote: Let's make a side bet: I bet you and many others want more than 36 players at season's end. I'm not sure what the number is but I bet it's more than 36. Deal?
It's a bet ! 8-)

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by morons » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:48 am

I bid $1000 on Story. He could be a huge difference maker at a weak position. He seems worth it as an upgrade/additional option at SS and/or MI when my current options are guys like Jonathan Schoop, Cesar Hernandez, Marcus Semien, and Alexei Ramirez across some of my teams......Maybe I should've bid lower on him and saved some $$$$ to buy a 9th OF or 17th and 18th pitcher........But in my leagues where Story was already drafted, I have some $$$ leftover ( and Marcus Semien still as a MI) for next FAAB so I can compare which strategy works better.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Glenneration X » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:53 am

BK METS wrote:
Bama wrote:Why wasn't bids on Mazara processed .. I don't get it, I guess we just make u the rules as we go
Not eligible because he didnt play his first MLB game until after Sunday at 7am. That is the rule for all FAAB. It was a bit confusing since he was in the FAAB pools.
It's actually right in the rules. Copied and pasted from the rules page:

The player pool is deemed closed of new free agents each Sunday of the weekly FAAB deadline at 7 AM ET and a player must have played at least 1 MLB game to be added to the pool at that time.

Like Alan noted it could have been confusing because Mazara was visible in the pool on Monday, but was clearly ineligible as per the rules already in place.

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by BK METS » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:26 am

morons wrote:I bid $1000 on Story. He could be a huge difference maker at a weak position. He seems worth it as an upgrade/additional option at SS and/or MI when my current options are guys like Jonathan Schoop, Cesar Hernandez, Marcus Semien, and Alexei Ramirez across some of my teams......Maybe I should've bid lower on him and saved some $$$$ to buy a 9th OF or 17th and 18th pitcher........But in my leagues where Story was already drafted, I have some $$$ leftover ( and Marcus Semien still as a MI) for next FAAB so I can compare which strategy works better.
Optimal scoring changes the thought with regards to simply getting the best player for a position. Having additional options at every position allows you to take advantage of big weeks from nominal players, even if it's a guy you wouldn't normally play. In my opinion, in this format, quantity raises your chances of winning. Quality is great, but if for example, you have 9 options at starting pitchers and do not get anyone else in FAAB, the guy with 12 or 13 options has a better chance of getting more than one guy to have a optimal week.

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Post by brian4state » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:05 am

BK METS wrote:
morons wrote:I bid $1000 on Story. He could be a huge difference maker at a weak position. He seems worth it as an upgrade/additional option at SS and/or MI when my current options are guys like Jonathan Schoop, Cesar Hernandez, Marcus Semien, and Alexei Ramirez across some of my teams......Maybe I should've bid lower on him and saved some $$$$ to buy a 9th OF or 17th and 18th pitcher........But in my leagues where Story was already drafted, I have some $$$ leftover ( and Marcus Semien still as a MI) for next FAAB so I can compare which strategy works better.
Optimal scoring changes the thought with regards to simply getting the best player for a position. Having additional options at every position allows you to take advantage of big weeks from nominal players, even if it's a guy you wouldn't normally play. In my opinion, in this format, quantity raises your chances of winning. Quality is great, but if for example, you have 9 options at starting pitchers and do not get anyone else in FAAB, the guy with 12 or 13 options has a better chance of getting more than one guy to have a optimal week.
I wasn't sure if I would like this format, but knew I wanted to try it. I know we're only a week in, but I'm hooked on it!

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Re: Cutline free agent bids

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:56 am

KJ Duke wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote: Let's make a side bet: I bet you and many others want more than 36 players at season's end. I'm not sure what the number is but I bet it's more than 36. Deal?
It's a bet ! 8-)
Even though adding 5 players in this week's FAAB was a lot of work, the vast majority of owners took the time to expand their rosters. In fact, almost 70 percent of all Cutline teams now have 41 players on their rosters and 76 percent have 40-41 players. Only 12 percent still have 36 players.

People really did a good job on the Conditional Bids with those first five threads. Kudos to everyone for figuring out how best to Copy and Paste those threads to other bid threads. Heck, in one league there were 2,200 bids!! We had to manually run that league because there were so many Conditional Bids. But everything ran well.

I think the extra depth will reward the best teams even though injuries are sure to play a factor over the next 2 months. We can assess all rules at season's end, but again kudos to everyone who took the time to expand their rosters and to fill their bid threads with several Conditional Bids. Most of you were rewarded with expanded rosters.
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