Somewhat political post, non baseball

[Driver Love]

Though I am a conservative, I am not a fan of Trump and feel somewhat trapped given the fact he is the presumptive nominee. I could list countless reasons as to why I don't think he will be skillful enough to use this massive goldmine of information that has fallen into his lap. It amazes me people around him have not been able to council him better and get him more under control, more presidential, more poised, more measured. Reminds me of the Kevin Durant inner circle. How can people around him now explain how his career/legacy will take a hit if he quits his team (3rd best in the league) and runs to the dominant team to "earn" his championship? The optics of it are terrible. How do people around him not convinced him of this?

What bothers me most is that a massive (and steadily growing) segment of the population is too dumb, too disconnected, too focused on the Kardashians or Bachelorette or draftkings to even be aware of what is going on with this country. As long as they have cable tv, internet, gas for their car, cell phone service, some fast food joints, access to starbucks and are insulated from the mess the world is becoming they think life is just fine because a growing number of people take for granted what America is. When the average joe citizen is dependent upon the main stream media for information and the main stream media manipulates them by creating a narrative that fits their agenda it takes the voting public down a certain path. I will say this, and maybe this is a testament to just how corrupt Clinton is. I watched 2 hours of MSNBC this morning solely to see how the story would be covered. To my surprise, they really put it on Hillary Clinton and some of the hosts and guests even seemed crestfallen or embarrassed by what they were forced to admit about their candidate.

The question is, will the republicans be unified and savvy enough to use all the ammunition the Clinton machine has given them to win the white house and hopefully re-direct the nation from the downward spiraling path it is on. Will they be able to impact people enough to overcome the fact 90% of the media is going to be protecting and openly campaigning for Clinton? Will they be able to overcome the massive numbers of people who have been tricked into blindly voting democrat for free stuff or blindly voting for Clinton almost solely because of her genitals?

What a scary time. I know some will say "there have always been crisis periods and scary times..." But in the past when America seemed to be on fire we still had the infrastructure and underbelly of a great nation and a populous who loved it and have patriotism and appreciation for all it gives us. For decades that infrastructure has been crumbling and now with the internet and social media, the speed with which America hating has grown is explosive.

I hope we find some courageous leaders who can right the ship.

[NorCalAtlFan]

free stuff, genitals, durant? lmao

thank you driver for continuing to make this my favorite thread on any mb.

now if you'll excuse me, i have to go charge up my free phone so i can re register for obamacare, and then take my welfare and donate to the clinton campaign to get the first woman elected! woohoo

#hillary16

and no, there are no leaders to right the ship. for allahs sake, what planet are you living on?

[cfolson]

What bothers me most is that a massive (and steadily growing) segment of the population is too dumb, too disconnected, too focused on the Kardashians or Bachelorette or draftkings to even be aware of what is going on with this country.

I couldn't agree more. The more educated that you are, the more likely that you identify as a Democratic party member:

Democrats lead by 22 points (57%-35%) in leaned party identification among adults with post-graduate degrees. The Democrats’ edge is narrower among those with college degrees or some post-graduate experience (49%-42%), and those with less education (47%-39%). http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/ ... filiation/

[Greg Ambrosius]

James, you give the mainstream media too much credit and the American people too little credit. Thankfully the American public isn't as dumb as one side is making it out to be.

Time to come off the plank and enjoy life. We have stupid legislators everywhere, as evidenced by the Virginia, Indiana and New York DFS bills. Now if one of the candidates would run on a platform that "season-long fantasy games can operate legally throughout all 50 states" then we'd have a winner, but so far I haven't heard that from either party.

[Edwards Kings]

What bothers me most is that a massive (and steadily growing) segment of the population is too dumb, too disconnected, too focused on the Kardashians or Bachelorette or draftkings to even be aware of what is going on with this country.

I couldn't agree more. The more educated that you are, the more likely that you identify as a Democratic party member:

Democrats lead by 22 points (57%-35%) in leaned party identification among adults with post-graduate degrees. The Democrats’ edge is narrower among those with college degrees or some post-graduate experience (49%-42%), and those with less education (47%-39%). http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/ ... filiation/

By that same token, people who cherry pick one-dimensional statistics are most likely to be Democratic.

Let's have some fun with interpretation, shall we? I do not agree with any of what is about to follow, but if we are going to go make crazy statements supported by statistics....roughly 47% or 48% of people identify as a Democrat (so what Mitt Romney said was actually TRUE and he was excoriated for it). White men have the most open minds and are willing to choose the best candidate (44% identify as Democrats or lean Democratic; 43% affiliate with or lean toward the GOP). 61% of those who are religiously unaffiliated identify with Democrats, therefore Republicans like God more. Millennials (who know nothing) identify more with Democrats (51% to 35%) while the silent generation (people who have actually accomplished something in there lives and have experience) lean to Republican (43% to 47%).

Hohum....

[NorCalAtlFan]

wayne, you lost me at God. there is no God.

now go back to making your moonshine!

go braves?

[KJ Duke]

The more educated that you are, the more likely that you identify as a Democratic party member:

NOT A DEMOCRAT



DEMOCRATS

[NorCalAtlFan]

kanye has a 146 iq fwiw kj

[Edwards Kings]

wayne, you lost me at God. there is no God.

now go back to making your moonshine!

go braves?

If you try my 'shine, it won't be long before you will believe you can see God and by the next morning, you will certainly know He exists because you will be praying to him for relief.

[Edwards Kings]

kanye has a 146 iq fwiw kj

"I am God's vessel. But my greatest pain in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live." Kanye West

"I liberate minds with my music. That's more important than liberating a few people from apartheid or whatever." Kanye West

"I don't even listen to rap. My apartment is too nice to listen to rap in." Kanye West

"Sometimes people write novels and they just be so wordy and so self-absorbed." Kanye West


Brilliant. Simply brilliant. Can I meet the person who graded his test, please?

[cfolson]

kanye has a 146 iq fwiw kj

"I am God's vessel. But my greatest pain in life is that I will never be able to see myself perform live." Kanye West

"I liberate minds with my music. That's more important than liberating a few people from apartheid or whatever." Kanye West

"I don't even listen to rap. My apartment is too nice to listen to rap in." Kanye West

"Sometimes people write novels and they just be so wordy and so self-absorbed." Kanye West


Brilliant. Simply brilliant. Can I meet the person who graded his test, please?

I guess everybody is a cherry picker.

P.S. I'll take Albert Einstein vs Kid Rock.

[Edwards Kings]

[KJ Duke]

P.S. I'll take Albert Einstein vs Kid Rock.

I'll take Milton over Albert for economics/politics. But I'll take Albert if I'm starting a science project.

[KJ Duke]

REPUBLICAN 0 0 8
DEMOCRATS 0 0 8

Line score for the two party race.
Each side blaming umpires and errors on the other side in trying to find fans for their team.
Each side, neglecting the fact that most Americans are unbelieving that these are the best each party has to offer America.
We know there are better players, but we're forced to choose between Jose Lobaton and Jesus Sucre to lead our team.

Jose Lobaton just homered, he's got my vote. But Wayne is probably voting for "Jesus", so we may be deadlocked.

[Edwards Kings]

REPUBLICAN 0 0 8
DEMOCRATS 0 0 8

Line score for the two party race.
Each side blaming umpires and errors on the other side in trying to find fans for their team.
Each side, neglecting the fact that most Americans are unbelieving that these are the best each party has to offer America.
We know there are better players, but we're forced to choose between Jose Lobaton and Jesus Sucre to lead our team.

Jose Lobaton just homered, he's got my vote. But Wayne is probably voting for "Jesus", so we may be deadlocked.

Nah...unless he is approximately 2,016 years old, I will merely "abstain".

[TOXIC ASSETS]

There's no God, NorCal? You seem pretty certain of that.
All I know is that there is something more powerful than human beings. Call it what you will, but man is nothing more than speck of dust in the grand scheme.

I'm almost ready to throw up my hands and say that the country is doomed. Too much corruption, incompetence, and ignorance. Too much globalism. Too many people on welfare, and way too many illegal immigrants. Too few middle class jobs anymore. College costs through the roof and climbing.

Too many democratic voters. The democrats are probably going to win Florida this time around for Pete's sake. There's very little that conservatives can do about it anymore. Anyone not on the Trump bandwagon better get on it, it might be our last chance. 8 years of Hillary will send us over the cliff, never to return.

[NorCalAtlFan]

god is a creation for the weak minded, ie, conservatives......

8 more years of democratic rule may be the only thing to save this country.

this is fun. much better than fb talk.

where's gecko when we need him?

[Driver Love]

James, you give the mainstream media too much credit and the American people too little credit. Thankfully the American public isn't as dumb as one side is making it out to be.

Time to come off the plank and enjoy life. We have stupid legislators everywhere, as evidenced by the Virginia, Indiana and New York DFS bills. Now if one of the candidates would run on a platform that "season-long fantasy games can operate legally throughout all 50 states" then we'd have a winner, but so far I haven't heard that from either party.

It always amazed me how tone gets misread through the typed word. I am not on a plank lol My life is full of richness and wonderful things. Having said that, I am giving the mainstream media almost no credit besides being corrupt and agenda driven (can't see how anyone would see it any other way) and outlining that when the information flow is controlled the populous gets manipulated. I find it hard to believe that people are more informed and invested now in what is going on with their country as compared to 1950. I think the media, though not perfect, had more journalistic integrity and the populous as a whole cared more deeply for the country and paid more attention. I think today people are more narcissistic and primarily concerned for what impacts them in the now. That is my point. Doesn't mean I am not enjoying life... Though I will admit that on paper, my pitching staff of Fernandez, Cole, Hammel, Matz, Conley, Manaea, Paxton, Ray was supposed to bring me joy this summer and it has done the exact opposite...

[BK METS]

Lets face it. Hillary is a corrupt felon and Trump is a complete moron. Gary Johnson seemed like a good option, until he spoke, and appears that smoking too much weed killed all of his brain cells. Bernie Sanders is a good guy, but electing a Socialist doesnt appear like a good idea, after Obama. We have no good options. ZERO!

The best we can do, in my opinion, is elect the moron. At least we will be entertained!

[Edwards Kings]

god is a creation for the weak minded, ie, conservatives......

So liberals do not believe in God? Hmmmm...some of your brethren may disagree.

I have always found atheists so amusing. They do not believe in God primarily because no one can offer solid proof. It is as if, within their own bloated sense of self-importance, they expect God to show up at their front door to make a personal introduction. Even then the atheist would probably be offended if God didn't show up with the right pizza and brand of beer.

Yet the atheist seem willing to believe that the roots of life started about four billion years ago when certain chemical reactions produced two and three-carbon sugars, amino acids, ribonucleotides and glycerol, materials necessary for metabolism and for creating the building blocks of proteins and ribonucleic acid molecules and also for allowing for the creation of lipids that form cell membranes. However, I looked and I looked, but could not find the video on YouTube! that showed this happening. Do you know any atheists that have the link and are willing to share?

Well, religion or lack there of is a personal thing and to each his or her own. Having belief in something greater than ones self is tough and as Dr. King said faith is taking the first step even when you do not see the whole staircase. For me, I know the power faith and prayer. I have returned punts in football.

[Driver Love]

Lets face it. Hillary is a corrupt felon and Trump is a complete moron. Gary Johnson seemed like a good option, until he spoke, and appears that smoking too much weed killed all of his brain cells. Bernie Sanders is a good guy, but electing a Socialist doesnt appear like a good idea, after Obama. We have no good options. ZERO!

The best we can do, in my opinion, is elect the moron. At least we will be entertained!

Yes, what he said. Exactly what he said. I will hold out hope the moron wins (who I loathe) and hope that given he ran on certain conservative based platforms and given that he is doing this for his legacy and nothing else and given the fact he knows little about how govt works and must surround himself with bright people who are experts in every area, that maybe he will get positive things done even though every time he is on camera speaking he is an embarrassment.

I think the way our political culture has become that our best and brightest don't want to be a part of it thus our best leaders stay in the private sector.

[Greg Ambrosius]

I am giving the mainstream media almost no credit besides being corrupt and agenda driven (can't see how anyone would see it any other way) and outlining that when the information flow is controlled the populous gets manipulated. I find it hard to believe that people are more informed and invested now in what is going on with their country as compared to 1950.

I usually stay out of these disputes, but James keeps drawing me in with each of his wild posts. I know that's what he's trying to do, but I can't help myself!!

So you can't see how anyone would see it any other way? I mean, I can't imagine saying that about any fact, more or less one that is political in nature. But I guess if you watch Fox News 100% of the time you can say something like that.

As for your second statement, are you kidding me? What source of news did folks have in 1950? It was the local paper and the radio. That's it. You really think people in 1950 were more informed about their country and the world than today where we have cable TV, satellite TV, network TV, satellite radio, Internet, and on and on and on? I hate to say it, but I can't see how anyone would see it YOUR way on that one.

I'll step aside, but those two lines really woke me up this morning. I love a good argument and I hope to find one about baseball again very soon.

[headhunters]

the difference between a clinton and trump? " i did not have sex with that women" and "i have had sex with no one" and " i had sex with that women and she really, really, really thought it was fantastic because i have long fingers and other long things"

[DOUGHBOYS]

Just a few thoughts...

Some politicians are concerned with the FanDuel/DraftKings monopoly of daily fantasy.
However, they remain unconcerned about the Republican/Democrat monopoly.

Our vote is important.
It decides which bank robbers we set loose in the vault.

England left Europe and never packed a suitcase.

Anagram for Hillary- 'Lil Hary. And close enough to...Really?

Donald Trump solidifies what WC Fields said years ago.' A rich man is just a poor man with money'.

I don't know what a 'House of Commons' is...but we need one.
Both parties do not represent the common man and neither have common sense.

Obama broke yet another promise in admitting that we would have troops in Afghanistan after he leaves office.
In politics, promises are like records in sports, they're made to be broken.

And, a joke (or is it?) to leave with...

A little boy goes to his dad and asks, "What is politics?"
Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I'm the breadwinner of the family, so let's call me capitalism. Your Mom, she's the administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you the people. The nanny, we'll consider her the Working Class. And your baby brother, we'll call him the Future. Now, think about that and see if that makes sense,"

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what dad had said.
Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his diaper. So the little boy goes to his parents' room and finds his mother sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed. The next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I understand the concept of politics now."
The father says, "Good son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about."

The little boy replies, "Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep shit."

[Bronx Yankees]

Just a few thoughts...

And, a joke (or is it?) to leave with...

A little boy goes to his dad and asks, "What is politics?"
Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I'm the breadwinner of the family, so let's call me capitalism. Your Mom, she's the administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you the people. The nanny, we'll consider her the Working Class. And your baby brother, we'll call him the Future. Now, think about that and see if that makes sense,"

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what dad had said.
Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his diaper. So the little boy goes to his parents' room and finds his mother sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed. The next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I understand the concept of politics now."
The father says, "Good son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about."

The little boy replies, "Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep shit."

Love it! Very funny and, sadly, close to the truth.

Mike