Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

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Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by ToddZ » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:47 pm

Tom gets first billing since he finished ahead of Greg last year.

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Adam Ronis 2015, 2016 Mixed Draft Champion
Rudy Gamble
Tom Kessenich
Ray Murphy
Charlie Wiegert
Jeff Boggis
Tim McLeod 2014 Mixed Draft Champion
Perry Van Hook
David Gonos
Greg Ambrosius
Scott White
DJ Short
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Tim McCullough
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:24 pm

I put a poll on my Twitter asking who I should take with the third pick.

So far the results are basically a reflection of what's happening in my head. It ain't helpin at all to give me a clear answer. :)
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Yah Mule » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:34 pm

Tom Kessenich wrote:I put a poll on my Twitter asking who I should take with the third pick.

So far the results are basically a reflection of what's happening in my head. It ain't helpin at all to give me a clear answer. :)
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Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:38 pm

Yah Mule wrote:
Tom Kessenich wrote:I put a poll on my Twitter asking who I should take with the third pick.

So far the results are basically a reflection of what's happening in my head. It ain't helpin at all to give me a clear answer. :)
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:13 pm

With this group I predict that I will have a choice of Kershaw or a hitter at 11. I took Kershaw at 7 last year in Tout and it didn't work out, but I'll do it again if presented with the chance.
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by ToddZ » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:03 pm

If Kershaw is available at 1.10 - I'm booting Gonos from the league and taking his spot 8-)
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by jaybvl » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:08 pm

Is this a BA or OBP league?

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Post by ToddZ » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:08 pm

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Post by Baseball Furies » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:58 pm

Makes no difference what type of league this is, the fact that Corey Parson was given a spot in it makes it even less legitimate than it already is. :? :roll: :lol:
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:18 pm

ToddZ wrote:If Kershaw is available at 1.10 - I'm booting Gonos from the league and taking his spot 8-)
Gonna have to boot him Todd :)
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Yah Mule » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:27 pm

Greg walks the talk. He's been preaching about doubling up on aces for a few years now.

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Post by davetniagarafalls » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:36 pm

In no NFBC league could you get Kershaw and Bumgarner
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Post by Baseball Furies » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:30 pm

In no NFBC league where there is serious money on the line and no trading, and blah, blah, blah would most of these guys draft this way ever, or get a lot of these guys where they are getting them.
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Deadheadz » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:32 pm

davetniagarafalls wrote:In no NFBC league could you get Kershaw and Bumgarner
Nor Zach Britton in mid-6th round. :o
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Bjs2025 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:38 pm

I already don't understand how high these SS are going in Reg 5x5 and really don't understand it in OBP leagues.

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Post by Chest Rockwell » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:59 pm

Baseball Furies wrote:Makes no difference what type of league this is, the fact that Corey Parson was given a spot in it makes it even less legitimate than it already is. :? :roll: :lol:
He has to be better than Jeff Boggis. Played in a home league with him for a few years and he never finished top 3. He also got waxed in low level nfbc satellites.

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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Baseball Furies » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:13 pm

Chest Rockwell wrote:
Baseball Furies wrote:Makes no difference what type of league this is, the fact that Corey Parson was given a spot in it makes it even less legitimate than it already is. :? :roll: :lol:
He has to be better than Jeff Boggis. Played in a home league with him for a few years and he never finished top 3. He also got waxed in low level nfbc satellites.
Honestly Kent, if I have to be critical and harsh, which is quite out of character for me, :mrgreen: the majority of these guys are just weak period and would be smoked in high dollar NFBC contests. :twisted:
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Post by Tom Kessenich » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:20 pm

Here's my team. I've contended for the league title every year except the one where I took Kershaw in the first so we'll see if this team can finally break through this year.

C-Wellington Castillo
C-Sandy Leon
1B-Jose Abreu
2B-Ian Kinsler
SS-Francisco Lindor
3B-Ryon Healy
CI-Hernan Perez
MI-Tim Anderson
OF-Mookie Betts
OF-George Springer
OF-Byron Buxton
OF-Lorenzo Cain
OF-Jacoby Ellsbury
UT-Victor Martinez

P-Jacob DeGrom
P-Kyle Hendricks
P-Jameson Taillon
P-Matt Moore
P-Jharel Cotton
P-Junior Guerrera
P-Chris Tillman
P-Wade Davis
P-Neftali Feliz

B-Denard Span
B-Santiago Casilla
B-Danny Valencia
B-Luke Gregerson
B-Adonis Garcia
B-Derek Norris
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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:55 am

Drafting from the 10th spot in Tout Wars last night, I told Tom yesterday there was no doubt in my mind that Clayton Kershaw would fall to me because these industry writers HATE to pick Starting Pitchers. Not only that but I knew that nobody else would take a Starting Pitcher until it came back to me. I said I'd take Kershaw-Bumgarner if it came to me and i just knew that it would.

Sure enough Kershaw fell to 10 and Bumgarner was still there at 21, as was Max Scherzer and Noah Syndergaard. If Scherzer wasn't slightly injured I would have taken him. But taking two Starting Pitchers right away is never easy, but it was the way to go. At that point my goal was to earn 70 points in pitching and 40 in hitting, so I added two closers early and stayed after pitchers with low ERAs and WHIPs after that. No doubt I'm short on hitting, but again I'm trying to compete in those 5 hitting categories, not win each one.

We'll see if this strategy pays off. Here's a look at my team:

C - Wilson Contreras
C - Matt Wieters
1B - Hanley Ramirez
2B - Rougned Odor
SS - Brad Miller
3B - Maikel Franco
CI - Eric Hosmer
MI - Starlin Castro
UT - Michael Saunders
OF - Ian Desmond
OF - Carlos Gomez
OF - Rajai Davis
OF - Matt Holliday
OF - Melky Cabrera

P - Clayton Kershaw
P - Madison Bumgarner
P - Adam Wainwright
P - Robbie Ray
P - Tyler Glasnow
P - Joe Musgrove
P - Jeremy Hellickson
P - Zach Britton
P - Jereuys Familia

Reserves:
Pablo Sandoval
Jayson Werth
Ryan Zimmerman
Lucas Giolito
Luke Weaver
Hector Rondon

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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Yah Mule » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:53 am

I think our fearless leaders did pretty well. A bit more risk than I would prefer in Tom's pitching staff and Greg's OF is sponsored by the AARP, but they're both solid teams.

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Re: Tom and Greg in Mixed Tout Wars Draft TONIGHT (March 7)

Post by Tom Kessenich » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:00 am

Yah Mule wrote:I think our fearless leaders did pretty well. A bit more risk than I would prefer in Tom's pitching staff and Greg's OF is sponsored by the AARP, but they're both solid teams.
Yeah I'm not sure how good the SPs I have will be. Two years ago, I banked on Kershaw and that was an epic fail. Last year Price and Archer failed me. So I decided to wait a bit on SPs this year and get a couple of solid top-of-the-line guys and then a couple younger guys with upside. We'll see if Taillon and Cotton, in particular, can come through.
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