NFBC In 2008

Nutty Scrats · Post by **Nutty Scrats** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:08 am

I just think having the drafts over the Easter weekend is (as Molly Hatchett would put it) flirting with disaster. College kids come home for the holidays, schools are closed within the states, families travel to visit other family members and starting a day early, i.e. Thursday and having Friday off with the main event on Saturday may require another hotel day and in New York we all know it's not cheap and I would think for those doing an auction on Thursday night would not look forward to possibly having to go to work Friday morning. Just some thoughts to throw out there.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:08 am

NFBC Mar 14-16. Easter gift to wife: Tulips.

NFBC Mar 21-23. Easter gift to wife: Diamond Tulip Pendant.

Q

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:10 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

NFBC Mar 14-16. Easter gift to wife: Tulips.

NFBC Mar 21-23. Easter gift to wife: Diamond Tulip Pendant.

Q For the even slightly pious among us, I think this post sums it up about as succinctly as possible.

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:17 am

as Sack said i think having it the weekend of the 22 would be much better for me and the rest of the Cdm crowd that meet there each year for the tournament. having the weekend of the con expo is not very appleaing either because of lack of hotel rooms and other problems it causes. im thinking the thur-sat scenerio might be the best solution.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:20 am

March 22 for me. Just to throw the 29th back out there, there would need to be no faab period for the first week because the draft would be so close. Also Tom and STATS loaded the leagues up in 2 days this year. I'm sure if the leagues and standings were loaded and updated on Tues. (one day earlier than this year) that would be acceptable and doable. Could potentially create an exciting atmosphere to have the draft and season so close together. Maybe Baseball Tonight could stop by.

The 15th, meh, how bad will room rates be? I'd say it'd be a good year to add a west coast city. When Shandler did that gig out here in SF, Lance and I were the only NFBC guys to show up. There were almost all guys who do local auctions. Seems like a huge untapped market.

Then there's always March 8, a little early for my taste.

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:22 am

Greg,

Doesn't the NFBC partner with MLB Media? Wouldn't MLB want to make things easier for the only high stakes Fantasy Baseball Contest on the planet, and take care of their most die-hard of fans and have the season start on April 6th? Don't you have any clout in the MLB Office yet. The NFBC, Las Vegas, the Sweet Sixteen, all have a nice ring to it if you ask me. Maybe invite Bud to the draft.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:27 am

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

Greg,

Doesn't the NFBC partner with MLB Media? Wouldn't MLB want to make things easier for the only high stakes Fantasy Baseball Contest on the planet, and take care of their most die-hard of fans and have the season start on April 6th? Don't you have any clout in the MLB Office yet. The NFBC, Las Vegas, the Sweet Sixteen, all have a nice ring to it if you ask me. Maybe invite Bud to the draft.

I'm not sure what about MLB ever gave you the impression it cares about its fans.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:30 am

I didn't know con expo was there on the 15th.

Knowing that I'd vote for the 29th of March.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:35 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by headhunters:

i take it march 29th doesn't give you enough time to enter everything? if that is the case- march 15th The 2008 MLB season isn't officially set, but I heard they are 99 percent sure that they will start the season on Sunday, March 30th. Starting a week later would push the post-season too late into November and MLB doesn't want to do that. So March 29th is definitely too late.

Eddie, the 15th would be two weeks again before the season opener, just like this year. I'd love to do it the week before Opening Day, but now with Easter landing there it's going to make it tough to do it then. [/QUOTE]I take it you missed this Walla Walla.

EA Sports · Post by **EA Sports** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:36 am

I vote for March 22nd for the first 2 rounds of the NCAA. It is an annual trip for myself and a big group of old buddies, as I am sure is the case with many of the NFBC participants.

Thanks

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:38 am

Next 10 Easters with dates

4/12/09 4/04/10 4/24/11 4/08/12

3/31/13 4/20/14 4/5/15 3/27/16 4/16/17

Easter so early is very rare and may never conflict with the NFBC/March Madness again. The Vegas heads may have to take 1 for the team in 2008 to ensure continued growth of the contest. There is no doubt operating over that weekend would nip target #'s.

Q

hankstr · Post by **hankstr** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:39 am

Whenever there is NOT a winter storm in New York is my choice

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:39 am

Originally posted by hankstr:

Whenever there is NOT a winter storm in New York is my choice I heard that.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:43 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by headhunters:

i take it march 29th doesn't give you enough time to enter everything? if that is the case- march 15th The 2008 MLB season isn't officially set, but I heard they are 99 percent sure that they will start the season on Sunday, March 30th. Starting a week later would push the post-season too late into November and MLB doesn't want to do that. So March 29th is definitely too late.

Eddie, the 15th would be two weeks again before the season opener, just like this year. I'd love to do it the week before Opening Day, but now with Easter landing there it's going to make it tough to do it then. [/QUOTE]I take it you missed this Walla Walla. [/QUOTE]Why is the 29th too late?

The leagues were posted in two days.

Make sure that all prior sats are uploaded before main. Many were not this year.

Get volunteers with laptops to enter leagues right after they are done.

Greg would enter the passwords to stats w/o laptop owner looking (like Greg does using these boards in PHX on my lap)

The ID #'s are right on the stickers. It takes 30 mins per league at most.

Owners would need to check off starting lineup when they put initials on draft board.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:46 am

billywaz, Yeah I missed it. A lot of private leagues wait until the start of the season to have drafts. But if it had to be before then I'd take the 15th with con expo and all. I'll be damn if I'm doing a draft on the day before Easter than traveling all day on Easter day. Doing Auctions on a Thursday won't work for most of us either.

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:48 am

We've talked about having laptops for each league John but it is simply cost prohibitive at the present time. Could that change in a year's time? Perhaps but as someone who has pushed for that since Year 1 of our two events I don't see it becoming a reality anytime soon.

I don't want to speak for Greg but while I think March 29th is doable I don't view it as being a practical option. The time frame will shorten considerably and we will have (hopefully) more leagues to add as well. I think it's too risky but again I don't want to speak for Greg on that.

If someone can come up with a way for laptops to be provided for over 40 leagues in three days (we had 38 this year) that will be cost beneficial (and this includes the cost of having power for all of the leagues in all four cities) please let us know. We would love to do this but the cost factor would have to come down quite a bit for us to be able to pull it off.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:06 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

We've talked about having laptops for each league John but it is simply cost prohibitive at the present time. Could that change in a year's time? Perhaps but as someone who has pushed for that since Year 1 of our two events I don't see it becoming a reality anytime soon.

I don't want to speak for Greg but while I think March 29th is doable I don't view it as being a practical option. The time frame will shorten considerably and we will have (hopefully) more leagues to add as well. I think it's too risky but again I don't want to speak for Greg on that.

If someone can come up with a way for laptops to be provided for over 40 leagues in three days (we had 38 this year) that will be cost beneficial (and this includes the cost of having power for all of the leagues in all four cities) please let us know. We would love to do this but the cost factor would have to come down quite a bit for us to be able to pull it off. Tom, to be more clear, I meant use OUR laptops, not rentals or anything like that.

I would enter my leagues with no problem and I'm sure you could find 1 in 15 in each league to do the same, right after the drafts!

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:09 am

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

We've talked about having laptops for each league John but it is simply cost prohibitive at the present time. Could that change in a year's time? Perhaps but as someone who has pushed for that since Year 1 of our two events I don't see it becoming a reality anytime soon.

I don't want to speak for Greg but while I think March 29th is doable I don't view it as being a practical option. The time frame will shorten considerably and we will have (hopefully) more leagues to add as well. I think it's too risky but again I don't want to speak for Greg on that.

If someone can come up with a way for laptops to be provided for over 40 leagues in three days (we had 38 this year) that will be cost beneficial (and this includes the cost of having power for all of the leagues in all four cities) please let us know. We would love to do this but the cost factor would have to come down quite a bit for us to be able to pull it off. Tom, to be more clear, I meant use OUR laptops, not rentals or anything like that.

I would enter my leagues with no problem and I'm sure you could find 1 in 15 in each league to do the same, right after the drafts! [/QUOTE]Possibly. I wouldn't want to assign just one person per city, though - at least not with Vegas and New York where there are over two dozen total leagues. Trust me, I'd love to go the laptop route. I just need to find the right way to do it in order to sell it to Greg and our higher ups.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:15 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

We've talked about having laptops for each league John but it is simply cost prohibitive at the present time. Could that change in a year's time? Perhaps but as someone who has pushed for that since Year 1 of our two events I don't see it becoming a reality anytime soon.

I don't want to speak for Greg but while I think March 29th is doable I don't view it as being a practical option. The time frame will shorten considerably and we will have (hopefully) more leagues to add as well. I think it's too risky but again I don't want to speak for Greg on that.

If someone can come up with a way for laptops to be provided for over 40 leagues in three days (we had 38 this year) that will be cost beneficial (and this includes the cost of having power for all of the leagues in all four cities) please let us know. We would love to do this but the cost factor would have to come down quite a bit for us to be able to pull it off. Tom, to be more clear, I meant use OUR laptops, not rentals or anything like that.

I would enter my leagues with no problem and I'm sure you could find 1 in 15 in each league to do the same, right after the drafts! [/QUOTE]Possibly. I wouldn't want to assign just one person per city, though - at least not with Vegas and New York where there are over two dozen total leagues. Trust me, I'd love to go the laptop route. I just need to find the right way to do it in order to sell it to Greg and our higher ups. [/QUOTE]One person per league...

Ok... 10 leagues in Vegas...

get one owner in each league to volunteer.

find out their room numbers.

Take the two with rooms closest to each other and send five to one room, 5 to the other room.

Greg enters stats passwords on each laptop and gives them leagues to enter. Greg goes to other room and does the same.

10 leagues would be entered w/o any cost other than Coronas within an hour after the draft.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:18 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

NFBC Mar 14-16. Easter gift to wife: Tulips.

NFBC Mar 21-23. Easter gift to wife: Diamond Tulip Pendant.

Q

Can I get an AMEN from the congregation!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:19 am

Tom - why worry? Designate UFS official NFBC Laptop Data Entry Manager, give him a free auction entry in exchange and rest easy. He'll take care of the whole thing. OK with you John?

Who Dat Is? · Post by **Who Dat Is?** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:19 am

March 29th would be no need for FAAB anyway and we could all have more time to process who's making the team, SP's, RP's, etc. We'd still have basketball and even baseball to bet on!!

March 15th for me definitely loses it's Vegas appeal to me and I've been there 4 yrs in a row. Orlando sounds very appealing for mid March as I could take in some spring training ball at the same time.

I'll be back regardless.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:29 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Tom - why worry? Designate UFS official NFBC Laptop Data Entry Manager, give him a free auction entry in exchange and rest easy. He'll take care of the whole thing. OK with you John? Sweet! I'd have settled for Margaritaville.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:31 am

Not that I would use these guys as a model on how to properly run a league, but WCOFF ran an 840-team event the day before the NFL season started. Team owners checked off their starters when they initialed the small draft boards. Rosters were loaded into their stats service immediately after the draft (Vegas by Saturday night, Atlantic City by Sunday morning).

The point is that March 29th is an option. Perhaps not the best one due to time pressures, but one that should certainly be considered over Easter Weekend.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:42 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

March 15. As far as Las Vegas goes I see better room rates. Speaking of Las Vegas I checked out the Hotels owned by Harrah's. What I think is left that could work is Bally's, Harrah's and Paris. I'm betting it ends up Bally's. I'll take that bet. 12 Corona's vs. 12 double Screwdrivers. Deal?