DL Players For Week 25

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:52 am

sorry for all the quick hits, but my time is somewhat limited today

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:57 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

So this means you're just going to call me up and chat again?? Okay, my bad. I guess I just misread your conversation with Glenn. it means exactly what i posted. i'll act accordingly, just like you acted accordingly when you said sanchez wasn't DL elgible.

hopefully piniero's stats won't have any effect on my team standing. [/QUOTE]consider yourself fortunate if you're unable to start Piniero

[ September 20, 2007, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:58 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

So this means you're just going to call me up and chat again?? Okay, my bad. I guess I just misread your conversation with Glenn. it means exactly what i posted. i'll act accordingly, just like you acted accordingly when you said sanchez wasn't DL elgible.

hopefully piniero's stats won't have any effect on my team standing. [/QUOTE]consider yourself fortunate if you're unable to start Piniero [/QUOTE]maybe it will turn out good for me kevin, but that's not the point.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:02 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

So this means you're just going to call me up and chat again?? Okay, my bad. I guess I just misread your conversation with Glenn. it means exactly what i posted. i'll act accordingly, just like you acted accordingly when you said sanchez wasn't DL elgible.

hopefully piniero's stats won't have any effect on my team standing. [/QUOTE]consider yourself fortunate if you're unable to start Piniero [/QUOTE]he can be risky sure but last I checked his previous start @ home vs the Schlubbies was pretty darn good. Now he's home vs the Lastros. I'll take my chances

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Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:17 pm

I will update this list tomorrow morning and send out an e-mail to all NFBC members so that they can set their weekend starting lineups before Friday's first game. As I said on Wednesday, I put a preliminary list of players together early this week as many of those players were deemed out for the season days ago. Shawn Childs said it was a useless list, but all of those players needed to be designated in case anyone still had them in their starting lineups this week. There have been injuries since then that we will address for the weekend. I need to get with STATS in the morning to make sure we can add these players before setting the final list.

The September DL rule isn't an easy one, but it was put in place to help teams that suffered injuries during that week, just like the Friday DL rule helps during the regular season. It's my goal to not jump the gun and give a player a DL designation who might come back later in the season. But there's little doubt that several teams are now deeming players out for the rest of the season and we need to act accordingly. We will on Friday morning as I said I would.

As for Sanchez, the reports I read this morning on the Giants' web site said that he was still confident that he could pitch yet this season. That is one of the reasons I didn't designate him as DL today as an oblique can be day-to-day. Since then, the Giants not only have said he's out for the season but they feel he may not be ready for the AFL season next month. Tom and I will check the rest of the notes and confirm with team web sites before finalizing this weekend's list early tomorrow morning.

We will do the same thing next weekend as well and act on a case-by-case basis.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:19 pm

Lost in all of these posts was the original list of DL members for this week. Again, I'll add to this list tomorrow and send out an e-mail update to all NFBC members. These players won't have a DL next to their name, but they will be allowed to be moved from your starting lineup to reserve if you have a reserve player who can fill in the required position eligibility of that person.

Chris Duncan

Chad Tracy

Danys Baez

Chris Sampson

Neal Musser

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:33 pm

The Reds have confirmed that Ken Griffey Jr. will be out for the rest of the season with a groin injury, and even though this injury happened in Wednesday's game the Reds have confirmed that he is done for the year. During the regular season, it might have been tough for Griffey to be added to the official DL list by Friday at midnight, but in obvious injury situations we do add players to the list for that week. I think his injury is obviously serious enough that he would have been on a 15-day DL and possibly longer during the regular season.

The Blue Jays also confirmed tonight that Vernon Wells is done for the year and will require season-ending surgery. He will be added as well to this week's list.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:37 pm

Sweet, thanks.

-Mace and Bailey's. NY1

Terry H · Post by **Terry H** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:44 pm

... next week there is no need for a DL list with less than 15 games to play in the season. Good luck everyone the rest of the way. [/QB]Greg, as I plan for next week I need to understand this. On a couple of my teams I'm carrying 3 catchers. If one of my starting catchers has a disabling injury prior to the deadline will I be able to replace him Friday with the catcher on my reserve roster? If not I'll plan accordingly.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:49 pm

THANK YOU for the reconsideration. MANY of us appreciate it.

Tighten the eligibility language and dump the Sept DL rule next year and you have a product as perfect as they come IMO.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:49 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

THANK YOU for the reconsideration. MANY of us appreciate it.

Tighten the eligibility language and dump the Sept DL rule next year and you have a product as perfect as they come IMO. There wasn't a reconsideration. Just because you had to attend a funeral today, you chose to jump on the boards yesterday morning and request a decision on YOUR timeline. I chose to take all of Thursday before updating the DL list as I said I'd do on the first post. You were the one who came on these boards and acted like an IDIOT and turned this into a personal attack when a decision hadn't even been made yet.

Take some advice from a wise, old man: GROW UP and respect authority. This contest isn't about YOU. There are hundreds of teams in this contest and it's my job to make decisions based on the good of EVERY team. You once again turned yesterday into a Mark Srebro vs. the World debate when in fact several teams have Jonathan Sanchez on their teams. Then of course you let the world know that you have Sanchez and all that does is put me in the position of ruling for or against YOU. That's not what I'm here to do. I'm here to rule for everyone, but of course you're the only one who goes on these boards and attacks every decision that affects your team. GROW UP.

I had every intention of getting an updated list of DL players to STATS on Thursday night like I said I would. I didn't need to engage in your juvenile word game yesterday afternoon because I was doing work at that time to make the right calls. I didn't have the same Thursday morning deadline that you had. But of course you had to come on these boards and make a fool of yourself and then have everyone watch to see if I'd make the call for you or against you. Realistically, I was making the call about Jonathan Sanchez pitching again this year or not, plain and simple.

Again, do me a favor and let those who make the decisions do their work and make the calls that they think is in the best interests of EVERYONE involved. Your input is appreciated. The way you go about it isn't.

As for the September DL rule, let's sort out the facts at the end of the month. The controversies you and others see may in fact all have been ruled correctly and helped the contest after all. Right now we have some owners stating that Orlando Hudson should have been on the DL (when in fact he wasn't eligible for it by the Friday deadline), other owners saying Josh Hamilton shouldn't have been on the DL, some saying Sanchez, Griffey and Wells should be on the DL, and then of course next week. Maybe when all is said and done and none of these guys return to action, we'll realize that the September DL rule worked the way it was supposed to. But if I miss on a lot of guys, then we'll of course listen to your campaign to dump the rule and act accordingly. Thanks for your input.

[ September 21, 2007, 02:39 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:50 am

I have asked STATS to add the following players to the DL list for this week and you will be allowed to take them out of your starting lineup today and replace them with a reserve player:

Ken Griffey Jr.

Jonathan Sanchez

Vernon Wells

I'll confirm when you are able to reserve those players.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:55 am

Originally posted by Terry Haney:

quote:... next week there is no need for a DL list with less than 15 games to play in the season. Good luck everyone the rest of the way. Greg, as I plan for next week I need to understand this. On a couple of my teams I'm carrying 3 catchers. If one of my starting catchers has a disabling injury prior to the deadline will I be able to replace him Friday with the catcher on my reserve roster? If not I'll plan accordingly. [/QB][/QUOTE]Yes, I will create a list like I did this week. I over-reacted on my post above that you highlight. If I take the full week, it does make sense to evaluate every injury and if teams would have put these players on the 15-day DL because of their severity then I will act accordingly. Obviously, injuries like obliques become day-to-day during the regular season and thus I didn't want to make a personal call on these. Your post on page 2 was exactly what I was thinking about Sanchez's injury before seeing that he will likely miss the start of the AFL season. But when it's obvious that these players would be shut down for several weeks, then it makes sense to act like we would normally. I will do that next week.

viper · Post by **viper** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:02 am

It may be too late for some but could you update the initial post to this thread with all players getting your DL designation. This would be similar to how you handle sign-ups.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:21 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

THANK YOU for the reconsideration. MANY of us appreciate it.

Tighten the eligibility language and dump the Sept DL rule next year and you have a product as perfect as they come IMO. There wasn't a reconsideration. Just because you had to attend a funeral today, you chose to jump on the boards yesterday morning and request a decision on YOUR timeline. I chose to take all of Thursday before updating the DL list as I said I'd do on the first post. You were the one who came on these boards and acted like an IDIOT and turned this into a personal attack when a decision hadn't even been made yet.

Take some advice from a wise, old man: GROW UP and respect authority. This contest isn't about YOU. There are hundreds of teams in this contest and it's my job to make decisions based on the good of EVERY team. You once again turned yesterday into a Mark Srebro vs. the World debate when in fact several teams have Jonathan Sanchez on their teams. Then of course you let the world know that you have Sanchez and all that does is put me in the position of ruling for or against YOU. That's not what I'm here to do. I'm here to rule for everyone, but of course you're the only one who goes on these boards and attacks every decision that affects your team. GROW UP.

I had every intention of getting an updated list of DL players to STATS on Thursday night like I said I would. I didn't need to engage in your juvenile word game yesterday afternoon because I was doing work at that time to make the right calls. I didn't have the same Thursday morning deadline that you had. But of course you had to come on these boards and make a fool of yourself and then have everyone watch to see if I'd make the call for you or against you. Realistically, I was making the call about Jonathan Sanchez pitching again this year or not, plain and simple.

Again, do me a favor and let those who make the decisions do their work and make the calls that they think is in the best interests of EVERYONE involved. Your input is appreciated. The way you go about it isn't.

As for the September DL rule, let's sort out the facts at the end of the month. The controversies you and others see may in fact all have been ruled correctly and helped the contest after all. Right now we have RVF complaining that Orlando Hudson should have been on the DL (when in fact he wasn't eligible for it by the Friday deadline), RVF saying Josh Hamilton shouldn't have been on the DL, some saying Sanchez, Griffey and Wells should be on the DL, and then of course next week. Maybe when all is said and done and none of these guys return to action, we'll realize that the September DL rule worked the way it was supposed to. But if I miss on a lot of guys, then we'll of course listen to your campaign to dump the rule and act accordingly. Thanks for your input. [/QUOTE]greg,

"there wasn't any decision made on your part"???? get real. seriously.

your first post on sanchez said,

"At this point, I am not adding Sanchez to the DL list. Other injuries this week to guys like Albert Pujols, Carl Crawford and Ken Griffey will not merit DL status as well and next week there is no need for a DL list with less than 15 games to play in the season."

YOU chose to say he wasn't being added and that no one else was being added for the rest of the season. what else was a sanchez owner to think or do???

i'm glad you decided to correct your mistake. thanks.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:32 am

as for you using words like idiot and fool, i won't stoop to that level.

but one thing you can count on is that when established rules aren't being upheld, i'll be there to chime in.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:25 pm

Excellent Post Greg. I'm very new to this board and it didn't take long to get very tired of this guy's act.