Can you get value_in_the_1st_round?

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:45 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

yes, exactly.. it depends on where you think there is going to be value and who you can get later... that's how I decide who I'm taking in the early rounds. Yep, my sleepers tend to dictate a little bit how my draft turns out. Although my #1 priority is picking value in each slot, I do have my players I think will soar and I will never have a problem taking them 2 rounds before everybody else. It's just me, based on my gut feelings. And it tends to work. But sometimes I get burned. Overall I think most people have a general idea about value of a player, it's how you balance risk/reward that determines your fate....and a little luck.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:46 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. Albert Pujols laced his fourth homer of the spring Wednesday against the Marlins. don't say i never gave you a freebie. this is as good as they come. best of all, i can get him at 8. and yes, 8 was one of my top preferences

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:48 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. Albert Pujols laced his fourth homer of the spring Wednesday against the Marlins. don't say i never gave you a freebie. this is as good as they come. best of all, i can get him at 8. and yes, 8 was one of my top preferences

[/QUOTE]But I think you have itty bitty balls....so you won't bite!!

Lunatic · Post by **Lunatic** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:59 am

I agree, no balls...

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:02 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. Albert Pujols laced his fourth homer of the spring Wednesday against the Marlins. don't say i never gave you a freebie. this is as good as they come. best of all, i can get him at 8. and yes, 8 was one of my top preferences

[/QUOTE]But I think you have itty bitty balls....so you won't bite!! [/QUOTE]chomp chomp

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:04 am

Originally posted by Lunatic:

I agree, no balls...

since I'M the one who took santana in the middle of the first round last year with $1,300 on the line, you MUST be talking about YOURSELF.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:06 am

I'm walking out the door to go to Vegas.

Mark, Good luck in New York maybe a real player like Holliday slides to you.

It seems like everyone has done their homework...now we all have to do is see if we can excute our plans. Best of luck to everyone on the boards...Hopefully this season treat you well.

Lance...don't be drunk coming off the plane..isn't it only a 45 minute flight for you?

Greg.....We will be in the sportbook by 9 AM stop by on your way to the pool.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:08 am

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

I'm walking out the door to go to Vegas.

Mark, Good luck in New York maybe a real player like Holliday slides to you.

It seems like everyone has done their homework...now we all have to do is see if we can excute our plans. Best of luck to everyone on the boards...Hopefully this season treat you well.

Lance...don't be drunk coming off the plane..isn't it only a 45 minute flight for you?

Greg.....We will be in the sportbook by 9 AM stop by on your way to the pool. good luck shawn!

Sheep · Post by **Sheep** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:23 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. Albert Pujols laced his fourth homer of the spring Wednesday against the Marlins. don't say i never gave you a freebie. this is as good as they come. best of all, i can get him at 8. and yes, 8 was one of my top preferences

[/QUOTE]Gotta love GG quoting GG

Lunatic · Post by **Lunatic** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:48 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Lunatic:

I agree, no balls...

since I'M the one who took santana in the middle of the first round last year with $1,300 on the line, you MUST be talking about YOURSELF. [/QUOTE]I don't think we are talking about last year; I am saying you won't take Pujols at 8 this year; I don't care what you did LAST year.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:54 am

Originally posted by Lunatic:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Lunatic:

I agree, no balls...

since I'M the one who took santana in the middle of the first round last year with $1,300 on the line, you MUST be talking about YOURSELF. [/QUOTE]I don't think we are talking about last year; I am saying you won't take Pujols at 8 this year; I don't care what you did LAST year. [/QUOTE]u can think what u want. thanks.

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:09 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. It seems that all you do is promote guys YOU DONT REALLY want... HOw can you make all those points and LEAVE OUT the fact that there is major concern regarding the stability of his elbow... You pick him when he comes to you and take Crosby also when you can,,, YOu want the players your promoting OFF THE BOARD

I got one ready? Take Jeter, he's slipping way to far down for the value he'll return, HE is no doubt a top tier SS and should be gone by round 3..

[ March 12, 2008, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: RedRum ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:19 pm

Originally posted by RedRum:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. It seems that all you do is promote guys YOU DONT REALLY want... HOw can you make all those points and LEAVE OUT the fact that there is major concern regarding the stability of his elbow... You pick him when he comes to you and take Crosby also when you can,,, YOu want the players your promoting OFF THE BOARD

I got one ready? Take Jeter, he's slipping way to far down for the value he'll return, HE is no doubt a top tier SS and should be gone by round 3.. [/QUOTE]don't worry my friend. u get to go to school in a few days

[ March 12, 2008, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:29 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by RedRum:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Yes! This year his name is Albert Pujols. I have a feeling in some leagues that he will slip to 5, 6 or even 7!! Yikes!! Consider this when contemplating Pujols on draft day, in his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! Talk about guaranteed production.

A lot of people mention that the lineup surrounding pujols won’t be good. My question…was it good last year??? Who did they lose this offseason eck and crusty Edmonds?

Remember the first round can’t win you the 100K, but it can certainly lose it. It seems that all you do is promote guys YOU DONT REALLY want... HOw can you make all those points and LEAVE OUT the fact that there is major concern regarding the stability of his elbow... You pick him when he comes to you and take Crosby also when you can,,, YOu want the players your promoting OFF THE BOARD

I got one ready? Take Jeter, he's slipping way to far down for the value he'll return, HE is no doubt a top tier SS and should be gone by round 3.. [/QUOTE]don't worry my friend. u get to go to school in a few days [/QUOTE]Sounds like fun

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:09 pm

I gotta agree with GG. I'm going to be ecstatic to end up with Johan and Pujols in the 15 hole. If he goes down, he goes down. That's life.

Helluva way to start off the draft.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:23 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

I gotta agree with GG. I'm going to be ecstatic to end up with Johan and Pujols in the 15 hole. If he goes down, he goes down. That's life.

Helluva way to start off the draft. I do not think either will be there most of the time. 15 spot itself says you need to take some more risks. Talk about a way for a newbie to win first year. Have both of them stay healthy for 6 months.

duggan · Post by **duggan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:01 pm

you guys have to take gg with a grain of salt, he promotes some players he wants and down grades some players he wants,,,,,,,so it is up to u to determine which is which.

duggan · Post by **duggan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:03 pm

he throws stuff out there and sets back and watch u angst over it,,,,,,,,,,,,

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:04 pm

I know. It's all in good fun. I gotta keep my league mates offguard.

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:30 pm

After the first two rounds end on Saturday, anyone who gets Pujols around pick 12-15 and then teams him with a second great hitter will all at once be the most likely guy to win his league and the most likely guy finish last in his league. How he picks in the next 28 rounds will obviously matter a lot more, but I'd rather be that guy than the one who is the most likely to finish in 7th place after the first two rounds. The last time I finished 7th in a league, it sure wasn't very exciting!

Purple Helmets · Post by **Purple Helmets** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:14 pm

As a rook with the #1 pick, I honestly wouldn't touch Pujols now if he dropped to me at the end of the 2nd round (#30 overall). My mouth would be watering and it would make me think, but I guess my balls aren't big enough to take that much risk that early in the draft. In regards to Santana, I would be willing to take him in the first round...possibly as early as #12 depending on what's available.

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:20 am

Originally posted by freddiezee:

After the first two rounds end on Saturday, anyone who gets Pujols around pick 12-15 and then teams him with a second great hitter will all at once be the most likely guy to win his league and the most likely guy finish last in his league. How he picks in the next 28 rounds will obviously matter a lot more, but I'd rather be that guy than the one who is the most likely to finish in 7th place after the first two rounds. The last time I finished 7th in a league, it sure wasn't very exciting! As someone picking 13 this weekend I have been torn over this for days. Do I want a Sizemore who hits .280, a Soriano who hits .275 or the consensus number one pick last year? Agreed, one injury and he is done and so is my team. But at 13 he will certainly have the most talent available on the board. Still debating.

Pete

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:06 am

It's clear the 1st round is the most overtalked about and overrated part of the draft.

I admit, I fall for it too, always talking about who's a better pick yada yada.

EVERYONE is going to get a good pick in the 1st round. Can't say every player will be healthy or exceed last year's output, just know that it's hard to go wrong. It just sets up how you want the next few rounds of your draft to go.

More interesting to me would be who's the best 10th round pick or who's the best 20th round pick. Much more beneficial to talk about.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:13 am

Crazy...will sleep this weekend knowing all these drafts are going on?

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:28 am

I am going to have a difficult time knowing the Main Event drafts are going on and I'm not there.

I've got win one of my leagues this year to get in 2009.

My goal for the March 26th satellite is that I can fill all my positions before the start of the year. Apparently easier said than done.