Greetings,
Fun and interesting draft.
Greg was right when he said everyone would come away with holes. I thought we could pull it off, but there were always three teams interested in a player, and two teams with enough money to over pay. All the way to the very end...
So here it is...
We executed staff better than planned.
Kazmir $26
Greinke 10
Buehrle 9
Hughes 12
Garland 9
D.Willis 9
Peralta 2
Rodney 2
Delcarmen 1
Exceeded target wins by 9, K's by 64, ERA by 0.07, ratio on the nose, and saves, you know the story.
Hitters a little short, but we can trade 35 SB and still finish first, along with W and K's later on..
Shoppach 2
Zaun 2
Stairs 5 (Overbay went for $13,Garko 19, Barton 11)
Wood 2
Figgins 33
Kinsler 25
Richar 2
L.Hernandez 1 (betancourt went for 14)
Crawford 42
Dye 18
Matsui 19
Catalanotto 6
Payton 3
Thome 20
SB, HR, AVG came in on target. SB's are spread out because we gobbled them up quickly, so we have 33 SB lead, which was the total that would have finished 3rd last year. Runs and RBI fell 10% short, but we have very low projections for Richar and Wood.
Reserves - D.Price (5th pick), Hochevar, Michaels, Pirdie, Downs, Quinlan
Interesting prices
A Rod 42
Putz 27
M.Cabrera 42
V.Martinez 25
Cano 27
Bedard 30
Sizemore 37
Upton 31
Ichiro 38
C.Guillen 30
A.Hill 20
F.Liriano 17
C.Pena 25
J.Shields 25 (last K guy left)
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Just some opinions , looks like Upton at 31 was a fair price considering Ichiro went 38 and Sizemore went 37.In some drafts ive seen Upton go before both players.Your infielders Wood and Hernandez and Richar could have promblems reaching at bats.Hernandez who knows , could turn out like Zobrist if doesnt start out well.
Wood could be in the minors all year and Richar could go minors if he doesnt make the team.Could you have gotten A Rameriz [the cuban kid] in the reserves or did he cost money, and how much did Juan Uribe go.Garland and Willis could hurt era and whip , maybe take their 19 and get a better pitcher to go with Kazmir.I just not a Garland guy, his 98 k's in over 200 innings is pretty bad . I JUST would have liked one more Ace the a couple of inning eaters.I like Thome , the price seems about right [20] he did have a monster second half.Fer Rodney for 2 could get some saves only Todd Jones who will lose the job one of these years is in the way.
Anyway's good luck.
Wood could be in the minors all year and Richar could go minors if he doesnt make the team.Could you have gotten A Rameriz [the cuban kid] in the reserves or did he cost money, and how much did Juan Uribe go.Garland and Willis could hurt era and whip , maybe take their 19 and get a better pitcher to go with Kazmir.I just not a Garland guy, his 98 k's in over 200 innings is pretty bad . I JUST would have liked one more Ace the a couple of inning eaters.I like Thome , the price seems about right [20] he did have a monster second half.Fer Rodney for 2 could get some saves only Todd Jones who will lose the job one of these years is in the way.
Anyway's good luck.
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Originally posted by fireballs:
I absolutely would have stayed away from Kazmir at $26. I would have rather gambled with Liriano at $17 and used that $9 elsewhere. Agree...Kaz is very scary right now. He claims he's ready to go...but the management down here is having different ideas right now.
Should've saved a $1 and got Shields instead. He's a better pitcher anyways.
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I absolutely would have stayed away from Kazmir at $26. I would have rather gambled with Liriano at $17 and used that $9 elsewhere. Agree...Kaz is very scary right now. He claims he's ready to go...but the management down here is having different ideas right now.
Should've saved a $1 and got Shields instead. He's a better pitcher anyways.
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John, how about some of the bargains players. Could we get a few names who went WAAAY below value?
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Hughes for $12? I would love to see comparable prices....for instance, how much did Kennedy go for?
I think it's going to take a lot of manicuring with the staff you've assembled.
I think it's going to take a lot of manicuring with the staff you've assembled.
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Originally posted by cindy:
I'm sorry but that team is terrible. Why would you invest that money in Kazmir knowing he already has an injury issue? I think Greg has inside information! In a trading league, they have enough assets to make some moves during the year.
I think your view point might change when you see the other 11 teams. In an AL auction, every team will have problems somewhere.
I'm sorry but that team is terrible. Why would you invest that money in Kazmir knowing he already has an injury issue? I think Greg has inside information! In a trading league, they have enough assets to make some moves during the year.
I think your view point might change when you see the other 11 teams. In an AL auction, every team will have problems somewhere.
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Originally posted by cindy:
only 6 of their 14 hitters are going to get regular at bats. That cannot be a good thing, am I wrong? I think Zaun and Hernandez would be 7 and 8. Between Richar and Catalanotto, you might end up with a ninth bat. It is very differcult to have more than 10 starters in an AL auction. If they have 8 regular batters right now, they will need to have 12 regulars at some point in the season. You don't want to fall too far back in offense, but April isn't a bad month to be short.
In the AL there are 126 line up spots. It would break down to 10.5 per team, but there are a few spots where teams won't use a player for full time at bats.
only 6 of their 14 hitters are going to get regular at bats. That cannot be a good thing, am I wrong? I think Zaun and Hernandez would be 7 and 8. Between Richar and Catalanotto, you might end up with a ninth bat. It is very differcult to have more than 10 starters in an AL auction. If they have 8 regular batters right now, they will need to have 12 regulars at some point in the season. You don't want to fall too far back in offense, but April isn't a bad month to be short.
In the AL there are 126 line up spots. It would break down to 10.5 per team, but there are a few spots where teams won't use a player for full time at bats.
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Originally posted by eddiejag:
Just some opinions , looks like Upton at 31 was a fair price considering Ichiro went 38 and Sizemore went 37.In some drafts ive seen Upton go before both players.Your infielders Wood and Hernandez and Richar could have promblems reaching at bats.Hernandez who knows , could turn out like Zobrist if doesnt start out well.
Wood could be in the minors all year and Richar could go minors if he doesnt make the team.Could you have gotten A Rameriz [the cuban kid] in the reserves or did he cost money, and how much did Juan Uribe go.Garland and Willis could hurt era and whip , maybe take their 19 and get a better pitcher to go with Kazmir.I just not a Garland guy, his 98 k's in over 200 innings is pretty bad . I JUST would have liked one more Ace the a couple of inning eaters.I like Thome , the price seems about right [20] he did have a monster second half.Fer Rodney for 2 could get some saves only Todd Jones who will lose the job one of these years is in the way.
Anyway's good luck. Good points on all... the plan was to get Shields at $19. He went for $25.
For $19, we have a shot at 30 wins with Willis and Garland and 230k's.
The entire group of $14-16 SP's went in the $17-19 range. It's just the way it was. There were always 2 teams with enough money on every decent player..
Like Greg had to remind all last week. We can trade in this league. There are NINE teams that project from 94-117 SB's.
We are 33 above that at 150. We could easily get more power and AB's at the AS break with a Figgins trade, and we are already in the middle of the pack in HR.
There are five other teams with he same AB issues as us, and the rest are only one starter ahead of us.
There are only two teams close to us and wins, and only one in K's. Plenty of ammo there also to trade down the line.
Like I opened with, every team has major holes. It's the nature of the AL last year.
Just some opinions , looks like Upton at 31 was a fair price considering Ichiro went 38 and Sizemore went 37.In some drafts ive seen Upton go before both players.Your infielders Wood and Hernandez and Richar could have promblems reaching at bats.Hernandez who knows , could turn out like Zobrist if doesnt start out well.
Wood could be in the minors all year and Richar could go minors if he doesnt make the team.Could you have gotten A Rameriz [the cuban kid] in the reserves or did he cost money, and how much did Juan Uribe go.Garland and Willis could hurt era and whip , maybe take their 19 and get a better pitcher to go with Kazmir.I just not a Garland guy, his 98 k's in over 200 innings is pretty bad . I JUST would have liked one more Ace the a couple of inning eaters.I like Thome , the price seems about right [20] he did have a monster second half.Fer Rodney for 2 could get some saves only Todd Jones who will lose the job one of these years is in the way.
Anyway's good luck. Good points on all... the plan was to get Shields at $19. He went for $25.
For $19, we have a shot at 30 wins with Willis and Garland and 230k's.
The entire group of $14-16 SP's went in the $17-19 range. It's just the way it was. There were always 2 teams with enough money on every decent player..
Like Greg had to remind all last week. We can trade in this league. There are NINE teams that project from 94-117 SB's.
We are 33 above that at 150. We could easily get more power and AB's at the AS break with a Figgins trade, and we are already in the middle of the pack in HR.
There are five other teams with he same AB issues as us, and the rest are only one starter ahead of us.
There are only two teams close to us and wins, and only one in K's. Plenty of ammo there also to trade down the line.
Like I opened with, every team has major holes. It's the nature of the AL last year.
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Originally posted by GOD Loves You:
John, how about some of the bargains players. Could we get a few names who went WAAAY below value? Ordonez 23..
No one really WAAAAY below... There were always two guys with money to spend..
C went WAAAAY to high...
Johjima 16, Navarro 7, Mauer 22, Posada 18, Suzuki 7
John, how about some of the bargains players. Could we get a few names who went WAAAY below value? Ordonez 23..
No one really WAAAAY below... There were always two guys with money to spend..
C went WAAAAY to high...
Johjima 16, Navarro 7, Mauer 22, Posada 18, Suzuki 7
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Originally posted by GOD Loves You:
quote:Originally posted by fireballs:
I absolutely would have stayed away from Kazmir at $26. I would have rather gambled with Liriano at $17 and used that $9 elsewhere. Agree...Kaz is very scary right now. He claims he's ready to go...but the management down here is having different ideas right now.
Should've saved a $1 and got Shields instead. He's a better pitcher anyways. [/QUOTE]Nice to you Cindy.
No problem with all with Kazmir on our end. Spring Training news like this is always over blown. Would rather #1 guy missed 1-2 starts now, than in Sept like Bedard last year. Shields went $6-7 over where he should have gone and their owners were the first to say this after their bid.
Their rotation is Shields, Meche, D.Cabrera and E.Jackson. I'll take our issues any day over that.
quote:Originally posted by fireballs:
I absolutely would have stayed away from Kazmir at $26. I would have rather gambled with Liriano at $17 and used that $9 elsewhere. Agree...Kaz is very scary right now. He claims he's ready to go...but the management down here is having different ideas right now.
Should've saved a $1 and got Shields instead. He's a better pitcher anyways. [/QUOTE]Nice to you Cindy.
No problem with all with Kazmir on our end. Spring Training news like this is always over blown. Would rather #1 guy missed 1-2 starts now, than in Sept like Bedard last year. Shields went $6-7 over where he should have gone and their owners were the first to say this after their bid.
Their rotation is Shields, Meche, D.Cabrera and E.Jackson. I'll take our issues any day over that.
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Originally posted by cindy:
only 6 of their 14 hitters are going to get regular at bats. That cannot be a good thing, am I wrong? Well, anyone who does an AL Auction League this year has to be prepared to realize they will leave the auction unfulfilled. This is my second AL Auction League this year and there are some obvious facts that come with this league this year. Here are a poor man's thoughts on the matter:
1. Starting pitching comes at a premium this year with Santana and Danny Haren in the NL. There are 11 starting pitchers who can get 180+ Ks this year and they all went for a premium. No bargains there and if you don't pay then you're trying to piece-meal the strikeouts.
2. Closers are still at a premium, so pay if you want them. Eight guys went for $20 or more. You could pay $20 for a closer and still finish with just 4 points in that category. We were one of two teams not to get a closer. We can easily trade for one later and get a few points there.
3. Offensive studs seem fewer in the AL. With the mets and phillies dominating the Top 15 picks in mixed leagues, you quickly realize that the AL is missing the dominant stars. You have A-Rod, Miguel Cabrera, Crawford, Sizemore and Ortiz. There are other good players, but there's not enough anchors for every team. We chose to dive in rather than battle for two $20 players.
4. Filling out an infield is pretty tough. Every team struggled to get a worthy 1B-2B-SS as prices were high. If you accomplished that, you were bottom feeding at OF. If you loaded up on outfield, you were weak in the infield. As Shawn said, there are only 126 starting position players for 12 teams and it's tough to fill all needs. Going with more $15-$20 guys was one option, but we were all-in with Crawford and Figgins right away.
Remember, this is a trading league and LABR titles are always won on trades. We have plenty of holes to fill indeed, but hopefully we have some trade bait with SBs and reserves like David Price and Luke Hochevar. We'll see.
If you're signed up for an AL auction league in two weeks, plan on needing some aspirin and some beers afterwards. It's not an easy exam to take.
Now onto the NL. We'll see how that one plays out.
only 6 of their 14 hitters are going to get regular at bats. That cannot be a good thing, am I wrong? Well, anyone who does an AL Auction League this year has to be prepared to realize they will leave the auction unfulfilled. This is my second AL Auction League this year and there are some obvious facts that come with this league this year. Here are a poor man's thoughts on the matter:
1. Starting pitching comes at a premium this year with Santana and Danny Haren in the NL. There are 11 starting pitchers who can get 180+ Ks this year and they all went for a premium. No bargains there and if you don't pay then you're trying to piece-meal the strikeouts.
2. Closers are still at a premium, so pay if you want them. Eight guys went for $20 or more. You could pay $20 for a closer and still finish with just 4 points in that category. We were one of two teams not to get a closer. We can easily trade for one later and get a few points there.
3. Offensive studs seem fewer in the AL. With the mets and phillies dominating the Top 15 picks in mixed leagues, you quickly realize that the AL is missing the dominant stars. You have A-Rod, Miguel Cabrera, Crawford, Sizemore and Ortiz. There are other good players, but there's not enough anchors for every team. We chose to dive in rather than battle for two $20 players.
4. Filling out an infield is pretty tough. Every team struggled to get a worthy 1B-2B-SS as prices were high. If you accomplished that, you were bottom feeding at OF. If you loaded up on outfield, you were weak in the infield. As Shawn said, there are only 126 starting position players for 12 teams and it's tough to fill all needs. Going with more $15-$20 guys was one option, but we were all-in with Crawford and Figgins right away.
Remember, this is a trading league and LABR titles are always won on trades. We have plenty of holes to fill indeed, but hopefully we have some trade bait with SBs and reserves like David Price and Luke Hochevar. We'll see.
If you're signed up for an AL auction league in two weeks, plan on needing some aspirin and some beers afterwards. It's not an easy exam to take.
Now onto the NL. We'll see how that one plays out.
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I misremembered about the trading. It gives me a lil better feeling with the team(not that you care what I feel ).
John, you must remember where I live, maybe I have the inside info on the Rays pitchers
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I'm curious how you can say Shields "should've" gone for only $19?? Other than the K's...which he will will close the gap this season, Shields numbers are better and will be even better than Kazmir's. I may be a lil biased, but I seriously think Shields is one of the better pitchers in the league. You could see it the first time he took the mound in the majors...he's got "it".
I'm not a fan of Ordonez, but that seems like a bargain compared to some of the other prices.
BTW, how much did Alexei Ramirez go for? How about McGowan?
Can't wait to see what happens in the NL league. Should be very interesting....Santana for????
John, you must remember where I live, maybe I have the inside info on the Rays pitchers
.I'm curious how you can say Shields "should've" gone for only $19?? Other than the K's...which he will will close the gap this season, Shields numbers are better and will be even better than Kazmir's. I may be a lil biased, but I seriously think Shields is one of the better pitchers in the league. You could see it the first time he took the mound in the majors...he's got "it".
I'm not a fan of Ordonez, but that seems like a bargain compared to some of the other prices.
BTW, how much did Alexei Ramirez go for? How about McGowan?
Can't wait to see what happens in the NL league. Should be very interesting....Santana for????
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I sTILL like Kazmir a lot but thought the injury would have lowered his price a little.Kazmir also had MUCH BETTER 2ND HALF THan Shields.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say.
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When applying the risk and then looking at the much lower whip and extra innings you should get from a Shields I would say he would be the better play, BUT when exactly were the players nominated in conjunction to each other? If Kazmir came outr 20 players aheead of Shields then you can't sit here and judge the difference in prices. Heck Shields may have gone for as much had there been more money on the board to spend. Of course if Shields was nominated first then it's a moot point. I do like both arms, but rarely "overspend" for starters so would have rather gone the cheaper route especially considering the elbow talks already. Man I haven't done an AL or NL only league in 15+ years and you definitely forget how thin it gets. I think the last one we did was an 11 teamer so a few extra starters(hitters) could be found. I think Tony Phillips was still a stud and Cecil Fielder was a top 1B with Big Hurt as well so that date sit back to when? Holy cow I have been doing this a while for a 35 year old. LOL
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Originally posted by eddiejag:
I sTILL like Kazmir a lot but thought the injury would have lowered his price a little.Kazmir also had MUCH BETTER 2ND HALF THan Shields.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say. We certainly understand the risk with Kazmir and last year we nabbed Jered Weaver when everyone was talking about a tired arm and that gamble didn't pay off. It's the risks you take drafting on march 1st. But that being said, nobody cares who finished second or third in this league. There is no win place and show. You either win LABR and brag about it or you finish out of first. We are taking a lot of risk with Kazmir and we certainly didn't get a discounted price for him, but we felt the reward was worth the risk.
As for when they were thrown out, they were the last two of the Big 11 starters in the AL left and four teams still didn't have a starter. Kazmir went for $26 and then Shields went for $25. The team that got Shields bid us up for Kazmir. They said they were happy to get Shields for a dollar lower. We felt the same way for a dollar higher.
We are going after wins and Ks with low ERA and WHIP and hope to trade wins for saves or stolen bases for power and saves later. This is definitely a work in progress.
Looking at the NL, that looks a bit easier than the AL. Look at the depth in starting pitching and compare that to the top tier of the AL. MANY more options there.
Craig, these AL only and NL only auction leagues are like Chinese water torture. That's why you stopped doing them!!
I sTILL like Kazmir a lot but thought the injury would have lowered his price a little.Kazmir also had MUCH BETTER 2ND HALF THan Shields.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say. We certainly understand the risk with Kazmir and last year we nabbed Jered Weaver when everyone was talking about a tired arm and that gamble didn't pay off. It's the risks you take drafting on march 1st. But that being said, nobody cares who finished second or third in this league. There is no win place and show. You either win LABR and brag about it or you finish out of first. We are taking a lot of risk with Kazmir and we certainly didn't get a discounted price for him, but we felt the reward was worth the risk.
As for when they were thrown out, they were the last two of the Big 11 starters in the AL left and four teams still didn't have a starter. Kazmir went for $26 and then Shields went for $25. The team that got Shields bid us up for Kazmir. They said they were happy to get Shields for a dollar lower. We felt the same way for a dollar higher.
We are going after wins and Ks with low ERA and WHIP and hope to trade wins for saves or stolen bases for power and saves later. This is definitely a work in progress.
Looking at the NL, that looks a bit easier than the AL. Look at the depth in starting pitching and compare that to the top tier of the AL. MANY more options there.
Craig, these AL only and NL only auction leagues are like Chinese water torture. That's why you stopped doing them!!
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Just a few more thoughts before heading to a ballgame:
We didn't go into the draft hoping to punt saves. But we also didn't feel like paying too much for saves. Here were the prices:
Papelbon, $27
Nathan, $27
K-Rod, $24
Putz, $27
Rivera, $24
Jenks, $21
Street, $20
Soria, $20
Nothing came cheap.
We didn't go into the draft hoping to punt saves. But we also didn't feel like paying too much for saves. Here were the prices:
Papelbon, $27
Nathan, $27
K-Rod, $24
Putz, $27
Rivera, $24
Jenks, $21
Street, $20
Soria, $20
Nothing came cheap.
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Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
I sTILL like Kazmir a lot but thought the injury would have lowered his price a little.Kazmir also had MUCH BETTER 2ND HALF THan Shields.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say. We certainly understand the risk with Kazmir and last year we nabbed Jered Weaver when everyone was talking about a tired arm and that gamble didn't pay off. It's the risks you take drafting on march 1st. But that being said, nobody cares who finished second or third in this league. There is no win place and show. You either win LABR and brag about it or you finish out of first. We are taking a lot of risk with Kazmir and we certainly didn't get a discounted price for him, but we felt the reward was worth the risk.
As for when they were thrown out, they were the last two of the Big 11 starters in the AL left and four teams still didn't have a starter. Kazmir went for $26 and then Shields went for $25. The team that got Shields bid us up for Kazmir. They said they were happy to get Shields for a dollar lower. We felt the same way for a dollar higher.
We are going after wins and Ks with low ERA and WHIP and hope to trade wins for saves or stolen bases for power and saves later. This is definitely a work in progress.
Looking at the NL, that looks a bit easier than the AL. Look at the depth in starting pitching and compare that to the top tier of the AL. MANY more options there.
Craig, these AL only and NL only auction leagues are like Chinese water torture. That's why you stopped doing them!! [/QUOTE]My bad I had it stuck in my head and didnt look back, I thought I had read Shields went for 18, so now seeing the $25 tag I would have to say the upside on Kazmir is the better play. And yes, hard to find 10-12 local diehards willing to pony up for an AL or NL only league anymore. Maybe cause me and one other owner used to kick their butts every year kind of turned them off, LOL
quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:
I sTILL like Kazmir a lot but thought the injury would have lowered his price a little.Kazmir also had MUCH BETTER 2ND HALF THan Shields.
Kazmir 111 innings 143 k's , era 2.93 and 8 w's
Shields 99 innings 84 k's era 3.91 and 6 w's
I would say Kazmir comes with more risk but has bigger upside then Shields.[look at those k's] Still would love either one , and i do have Shields in my home keeper league for a dollar.
Winner Winner chicken dinner as the capt would say. We certainly understand the risk with Kazmir and last year we nabbed Jered Weaver when everyone was talking about a tired arm and that gamble didn't pay off. It's the risks you take drafting on march 1st. But that being said, nobody cares who finished second or third in this league. There is no win place and show. You either win LABR and brag about it or you finish out of first. We are taking a lot of risk with Kazmir and we certainly didn't get a discounted price for him, but we felt the reward was worth the risk.
As for when they were thrown out, they were the last two of the Big 11 starters in the AL left and four teams still didn't have a starter. Kazmir went for $26 and then Shields went for $25. The team that got Shields bid us up for Kazmir. They said they were happy to get Shields for a dollar lower. We felt the same way for a dollar higher.
We are going after wins and Ks with low ERA and WHIP and hope to trade wins for saves or stolen bases for power and saves later. This is definitely a work in progress.
Looking at the NL, that looks a bit easier than the AL. Look at the depth in starting pitching and compare that to the top tier of the AL. MANY more options there.
Craig, these AL only and NL only auction leagues are like Chinese water torture. That's why you stopped doing them!!
[/QUOTE]My bad I had it stuck in my head and didnt look back, I thought I had read Shields went for 18, so now seeing the $25 tag I would have to say the upside on Kazmir is the better play. And yes, hard to find 10-12 local diehards willing to pony up for an AL or NL only league anymore. Maybe cause me and one other owner used to kick their butts every year kind of turned them off, LOLHard Heads
AL LABR
Jenks 21
Rivera 24
Krod 24
They are very fair prices for these three.Even 27 for the big three isnt bad.I paid 31 for Nathan 2 years ago , it seems like closers are going a little cheaper in auctions this year.
They are also going later in the main event , are the fantasy players getting smarter .I cant wait to see the results once the main events begin, i would seem to think it will be some where in the middle.
Rivera 24
Krod 24
They are very fair prices for these three.Even 27 for the big three isnt bad.I paid 31 for Nathan 2 years ago , it seems like closers are going a little cheaper in auctions this year.
They are also going later in the main event , are the fantasy players getting smarter .I cant wait to see the results once the main events begin, i would seem to think it will be some where in the middle.
EDWARD J GILLIS