Albert Pujols??

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:18 am

Sooo. what do you guys think? Albert Pujols said he is going to play the whole season and possibly his whole carrer without a sugery? Do you think his stock is going to go back up?

Also...there has been a ton of discussion on Miguel Cabrera being a top 4 pick?

Did you know that no Tiger has hit 30 or more homeruns since the Tigers started playing at Comerica Park?

Ronald Esq · Post by **Ronald Esq** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:40 am

Originally posted by k27orourke:

Did you know that no Tiger has hit 30 or more homeruns since the Tigers started playing at Comerica Park? Close, Bobby Higginson hit 30 in 2000. One guy with exactly 30 in 8 seasons, doesn't bode too well for Miggy.

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:49 am

people should be taking Pujols higher.....the payoff is so great. I say around pick 10-12.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:15 am

I have pick 12...

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:20 am

Originally posted by Ronald Esq:

quote:Originally posted by k27orourke:

Did you know that no Tiger has hit 30 or more homeruns since the Tigers started playing at Comerica Park? Close, Bobby Higginson hit 30 in 2000. One guy with exactly 30 in 8 seasons, doesn't bode too well for Miggy. [/QUOTE]Might be as much as how weak/old the Tigers have been until recently. The stadium that Miggy had been playing in is even worse on RH power. Comerica Park may be an upgrade for him.

Ronald Esq · Post by **Ronald Esq** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:32 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

I have pick 12...

I've got #14 in my satellite, I don't want Albert to be on the board at my pick. Really hoping someone else takes the plunge before I have to decide if I want to.

Probably for me is there are 13 other guys I want, if Pujols is on the board at my pick, that means most likely the other 13 guys will be gone at my pick.

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:36 am

Newly posted on ESPN.....take it from Pujols himself....look who's about to climb back up draft boards!

****://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3290915

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:47 am

If he is going to be playing all season...LIKE HE SAYS. Shouldn't I take him with the 3rd pick?

I have the 3rd, 8th, 9th, and 15 picks in some leagues coming up. If more news comes out, and its believable! Then I am taking him at 3. His stats are ridiculous!

I would not take him at 1 or 2 though...I don't know, its just such a tough decision.

You know....if you dont take him...you have to watch ESPN every day... and he will be the highlights if he plays all year.

FAT ALBERT...SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND, ALBERT WITH ANOTHER, LOOKS LIKE THAT ELBOW ISNT BOTHERING HIM, ANOTHER MONSTER YEAR FOR ALBERT.

ESPN will be hard to watch...thats all I am saying..

good luck guys

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:51 am

I think it's positive that Pujols says he thinks he can play with all year, and maybe his whole career without surgery but I'm not so sure his doctors are confident.

Just read this in an article:

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La Russa worries that Pujols could blow out the elbow with one off-balance swing.

"I only know what the doctors say," La Russa said. "He's played seasons where he didn't take that swing. He has an issue in there and if something crazy happens, it may pop up. Go after a pitch and all of a sudden something funny happens, your foot slips, whatever."

"I've said before, if there's anybody in this game that plays 100 percent healthy the whole year, he's lying. My mind tells me that I'm 100 percent but my body doesn't, and that's the way it is."

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So, I guess it comes down to, do you believe Pujols' mind or his body. Mind says take me with late 1st round pick, body says pass and take somebody with less risk.

When I hear La Russa say he's worried he could blow out his elbow with "one off-balance swing", that worries me, especially when he's in direct contact with his doctors.

Of course the other side of the coin is, if he's healthy, he could be the best offensive player in the game this year. As Crazy as I am, I still say it's best to pass on him.

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:55 am

I think risk/reward picks should be saved for much later in the draft. Taking a risk/reward pick in the 1st round seems a little outlandish.

I think one DL stint in 2008 over his elbow and you just made a mistake drafting him.

What are the Vegas odds on that?

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:03 am

I think risk/reward picks should be saved for much later in the draft. Taking a risk/reward pick in the 1st round seems a little outlandish.

I think one DL stint in 2008 over his elbow and you just made a mistake drafting him.

What are the Vegas odds on that?

I like that reply, makes alot of sense! One dl stint and it could really cost you..didnt think of it that way...thank you

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:14 am

Consider these things on draft day before uttering your first round pick:

1) In his 7 year MLB career, he has NEVER scored fewer than 99 runs, hit fewer than 32 hr, knocked in fewer than 103 rbi’s, or hit less than .314!! WOW!!! That is the equivalent of Miggy Cabrera's BEST season.

2) If Poddles has been playing with this injury for a while now, that means he's taken thousands of swings and made thousands of throws all without blowing his elbow out. why would it all of a sudden happen now?

The Duker · Post by **The Duker** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:13 am

Watching Miguel for four years in Miami I can assure you it does not matter what ballpark he hits in because the homers travel such a distance and so far beyond any fence it just won't matter.

The biggest factor might be playing a lot of games in colder weather.

I have gone with him three times now with the seventh pick and Pujols and Utley were available, tough calls all, but play out the rbis and rs and lesser pitchers in the al central where he plays nineteen games with the white sox and twins indians as compared to facing hurlers for the braves and mets, and i say he has an awesome season, like magglio last year

Norm Kent

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:16 am

good thing you didn't pass on him in the mag draft huh gordo! bottom line- he plays all year he is a value pick anywhere but pick 1. if he misses 25+ he wasn't a value pick anywhere he is gonna be taken.

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:09 pm

I do not think I have ever seen Pujols take an off balance swing.

[ March 13, 2008, 07:13 PM: Message edited by: DiamondKing ]

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:08 pm

He is out to make a statement this year and prove he can play through it. He dosent want to be made to look like a fool for playing. People will say "you should of had the surgery and not been a tough guy" He will play until the arm falls off.

Draft him early. 4 HR so far in spring!!!!!

Tax Man · Post by **Tax Man** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:54 am

he went 23rd in my sat on wed night

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:17 am

23? thats crazy? Or am I crazy? I would have taken him wayyy before 23.

I just dont want to make a bad decision...if he says he is going to play all year,...its posted on every website, then why is he still going so late?

This is my 1st year playing, so I am going to take as much advice as possible.

Tax Man · Post by **Tax Man** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:33 am

23 is too late - i was 2 and 29 so i had no chance. my first year also.

dont really understand some of the injury talk - people on the boards say Hanley Ramirez in an injury risk - still trying to understand that. He had surgery to fix his shoulder and is hitting close to 370 in the spring.

Top Dawg · Post by **Top Dawg** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:57 am

Originally posted by k27orourke:

23? thats crazy? Or am I crazy? I would have taken him wayyy before 23.

I just dont want to make a bad decision...if he says he is going to play all year,...its posted on every website, then why is he still going so late?

This is my 1st year playing, so I am going to take as much advice as possible. The thing is, it's a LONG season and you are plucking down $1300 not to mention travel, prep costs and time. Nobody really wants to take a chance at such a high level pick. To me, 1st round is not all that different from second round. It's a top pick either way. Gamblers (I like to gamble too) may see value in taking him after the top 12 offensive "no brainers" are gone. Sitting at pick 13 is where it starts to get interesting.

Lets see if he lasts till round 3 in any draft.

Pete