NFBC SpringTime

devilznj · Post by **devilznj** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:05 pm

Injuries can happen any time - especially in the spring - so moving the draft by a week is a non-event for me. I went Lyon (round 16) then Rodney (round 25) for the cover.

On the other end, in a January satellite draft I picked up Luis Castillo late thinking at that time he was a steal - no pun intended - at that point in the draft with a new frame of mind and a number 2 hitter in a good Met lineup. Now he's sandwiched between Brian Schneider and the pitcher.

Win some, lose some. All part of the game.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:28 pm

Your killer logic has convinced me...let's draft February 1st!

~Lance

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:31 pm

Wait, wait, wait...are we not drafting a game with 1 million in prizes...and the online leagues get to have more info than the main event?

Nooooo...that would screw up the Tout and Labr and home league drafts that go on after the main.

Kidding here...but still don't like adding speculation to the highest stakes baseball league in the land.

~Lance

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:36 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Is it that Lackey WAS drafted or WHEN he was drafted. There are some who view Lackey as an injury risk and therefore discounted him. He was however picked at "healthy" value. If Lackey is injured and will miss time (a common and generally expected occurance), what difference does it make if he were drafted two weeks before the season starts or one day before the season starts. It is more how early he is drafted that causes the most pain, in my opinion.

Same with positional battles. Rodney is the closer...kind of. Dukes has won the OF battle in Washington...kind of. Duncan wins in St. Louis...kind of. Was Sheffield the cinch pin in anyones drafting strategy even if he was a 40 year old DH with a full time job...kind of. And a significant number of players who have "full time" jobs won't in four weeks. It is not they are drafted, it is they are drafted too early.

Don't blame the timing of the draft on what is most of the time risky picks drafted too early. If it works, you are a "genius". If the risk comes true, the draft is too early. I just don't buy that. Well said Wayne.

The pool of players is exactly the same no matter when you draft, so there is an opportunity for your team to be better than expected by an equal amount as there is risk it could be worse than expected.

So you lost your closer? Maybe you also picked up what is now a young stud starting CF who was at the time you drafted him just a glimmer-in-your-eye hoped for mid-season callup.

I think the timing of NFBC drafts is just about perfect.

[/QUOTE]Somebody else lost their closer

I'm happy it was two weeks ago!

20 5 Cody Ross CF DIRT BAGS

22 5 David Purcey SP DIRT BAGS

23 11 Leo Nunez MR DIRT BAGS

24 5 Scott Lewis SP DIRT BAGS

25 11 Brett Anderson MR DIRT BAGS

26 5 Carlos Villanueva MR

29 11 Jordan Schafer RF DIRT BAGS

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:50 pm

We've got such foresight...let's do the blind bidding for free agenst on MONDAY...and it can be processed on Friday.

You Hatian Vlad-like Zombies, youz...with the foresights and the vision and the gloivan!

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:57 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

We've got such foresight...let's do the blind bidding for free agenst on MONDAY...and it can be processed on Friday.

You Hatian Vlad-like Zombies, youz...with the foresights and the vision and the gloivan!

Hey Lance.... It's not really "blind bidding"

The Tuesday before the draft.... Thomas, G.Morgan and myself.. steaks and RT picked the awesome red wine... and we talked "blind bidding"

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:23 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

We've got such foresight...let's do the blind bidding for free agenst on MONDAY...and it can be processed on Friday.

You Hatian Vlad-like Zombies, youz...with the foresights and the vision and the gloivan!

Someone mentioned it during a slow draft, I think it was Shawn, we should do a 2010 season draft during Spring '09.

You want in Lance???

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:09 pm

again, i said i (along with most of you) have no problem drafting TWO weeks ahead of the season. what i'd PREFER is ONE week ahead of the season.

TWO NFFC main event drafts (560 INDIVIDUAL TEAMS) are conducted only 5 days before the start of the season. why does NFBC need 14+days is my question?

JamesH · Post by **JamesH** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:51 am

Isn't this season starting a week late due to the WBC? Next year, will there only be one week between the draft and beginning of the season?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:16 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Wait, wait, wait...are we not drafting a game with 1 million in prizes...and the online leagues get to have more info than the main event?

Nooooo...that would screw up the Tout and Labr and home league drafts that go on after the main.

Kidding here...but still don't like adding speculation to the highest stakes baseball league in the land.

~Lance LABR drafts the first weekend of March every year Lance, two weeks before the NFBC and four weeks before the start of the MLB season. I think I'll go on the USA Today boards and bitch about that.

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:34 am

The online championship gives folks a nice option for drafting closer to opening day. I love the main event 2 weeks prior. Having it the first Saturday of March Madness is so money. But that's not the only reason. Maybe we should wait until the end of May, cuz it's not fair some teams have to play in colder weather. Special shout out to Gekko for giving me a mid-morning haha. Sweet irony this topic was started by the guy who for years has done his very best to be the gleeful thread starter on every significant injury during the season. Well, other than the ones that impact his own team.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:04 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

LABR drafts the first weekend of March every year Lance, two weeks before the NFBC and four weeks before the start of the MLB season. I think I'll go on the USA Today boards and bitch about that.

to my knowledge LABR doesn't involve any money. i don't see any connection there.

i don't think anyone is bitching just asking a simple question as to why the nfbc draft isn't held one week prior to the season (much like the nffc).

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:06 am

Originally posted by Potter:

Maybe we should wait until the end of May, cuz it's not fair some teams have to play in colder weather. somehow i'm not surprised you would try to throw up something that is so far fetched you lose credibility

Lost Sailor · Post by **Lost Sailor** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:32 am

I think it's kinda cool that the NFBC coincides with March Madness. Great for you Vegas drafters - although I heard more than a few horror stories about the sportsbook lines this year...

Hey... now that I think about it, where were those great MVP Sportbooks 'hostesses' we had a few years back??? They were a great addition on draft day.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:50 am

I'm in shock that the self-proclaimed most dedicated and most well-prepared drafter in the NFBC today is questioning why the draft isn't one week before the season. Mark, with all of the thousands of hours of prep work you do, the two weeks gives you a larger advantage than any other participant as you are the man holding the crystal ball.

You knew Washingon had 10 too many outfielders and you know Dukes is a ticking time bomb. Will you really be surprised if your draft day gamble doesn't pan out?

Lyon was at least as predictable as his peripherals have NOT been closer worthy. If anyone knew what a move to the AL would do to him, it would be you.

Are these two hiccups combined with a variety of MINOR injuries to McCann, Billingsley, and Ramirez really enough to shake your confidence???

To present this as empathy for Lackey owners is laughable. Lackey did the exact same thing last season as word was released DURING the draft that he would miss a month. The history of risk was there, and if you look at all of the big names, I highly doubt you find Lackey on any of their teams. Why? Because Lackey's risk outweighed the potential reward for where he was being drafted. You know this because you didn't draft him either.

The Main Event schedule is fine right where it is. It gives the first week of FAAB more significance and it also gives those who are well-prepared a leg up on the competition. Finally from an administrative standpoint, the extra time allows Greg and Tom time to load rosters, make corrections, and gives owners time to look over the free agents and plug potential holes (Ahem, advantage for you there ). Also in baseball, there are players drafted every year that are not in stats system and must be created.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:01 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

I'm in shock that the self-proclaimed most dedicated and most well-prepared drafter in the NFBC today is questioning why the draft isn't one week before the season. sorry. that has been a question for me since last year. it was also discussed in NY by fellow NFBC'ers on draft day.

again, fair and reasonable question for which i haven't seen an answer and now am being attacked by the peanut gallery (you )

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:04 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

You knew Washingon had 10 too many outfielders and you know Dukes is a ticking time bomb. Will you really be surprised if your draft day gamble doesn't pan out?

i've never had a perfect draft, and i have never seen one by anyone else. picks that don't work out is part of my game and yours and everyone else's. i'm not sure what your point is...if u even have one

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:07 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

Are these two hiccups combined with a variety of MINOR injuries to McCann, Billingsley, and Ramirez really enough to shake your confidence???

i hope you are not a stalker.

you seem to be able to whip out my team pretty quickly. if you are, stay away...please

as far as my confidence, it remains as high as ever. success for me is never worth the full amount unless you go through some hardship to achieve it.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:10 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Scott Boras:

I'm in shock that the self-proclaimed most dedicated and most well-prepared drafter in the NFBC today is questioning why the draft isn't one week before the season. sorry. that has been a question for me since last year. it was also discussed in NY by fellow NFBC'ers on draft day.

again, fair and reasonable question for which i haven't seen an answer and now am being attacked by the peanut gallery (you ) [/QUOTE]if you view an entire post of praise for your abilities an "attack," then you have larger issues than the draft date.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:14 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Scott Boras:

Are these two hiccups combined with a variety of MINOR injuries to McCann, Billingsley, and Ramirez really enough to shake your confidence???

i hope you are not a stalker.

you seem to be able to whip out my team pretty quickly. if you are, stay away...please

as far as my confidence, it remains as high as ever. success for me is never worth the full amount unless you go through some hardship to achieve it. [/QUOTE]hahahaha. i hope you are joking. this coming from the man who litters the message boards with EVERY article that comes across rotoworld involving one of his players and hypes non-issue injuries to Billingsley and McCann as being the end of the world as we know it. not to mention a public post on these boards that spans several pages based on your team. fact is, i doubt there are many players in the NFBC who DON'T know your team by now. to make asinine comments calling anyone a stalker really shines light on your insecurities.

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:16 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

if you view an entire post of praise for your abilities an "attack," then you have larger issues than the draft date. nah, your post read like an attack against me for asking a simple question. if you don't like the word attack, substitute your own. btw, do you "praise" all of your victims like this?

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:19 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

hahahaha. i hope you are joking. this coming from the man who litters the message boards with EVERY article that comes across rotoworld involving one of his players and hypes non-issue injuries to Billingsley and McCann as being the end of the world as we know it. not to mention a public post on these boards that spans several pages based on your team. fact is, i doubt there are many players in the NFBC who DON'T know your team by now. to make asinine comments calling anyone a stalker really shines light on your insecurities. no joke. focusing on your team from here on out would be my suggestion to you. now...if you are a stalker...i expect another post from you addressing me.

this is where we say goodbye...HOPEFULLY!!!

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:24 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Scott Boras:

hahahaha. i hope you are joking. this coming from the man who litters the message boards with EVERY article that comes across rotoworld involving one of his players and hypes non-issue injuries to Billingsley and McCann as being the end of the world as we know it. not to mention a public post on these boards that spans several pages based on your team. fact is, i doubt there are many players in the NFBC who DON'T know your team by now. to make asinine comments calling anyone a stalker really shines light on your insecurities. no joke. focusing on your team from here on out would be my suggestion to you. now...if you are a stalker...i expect another post from you addressing me.

this is where we say goodbye...HOPEFULLY!!! [/QUOTE]so we should all assume YOU are stalking ME mr."i'm going to put in the last word and try to spin it as you being a stalker if you comment back"

nice try.

i have never encountered a more sensitive bully in my life. you need thicker skin, mark. you can dish it out, but as soon as someone calls you out you instantly try to dismiss them by acting like you are in high school. are you?

goodbye!

Gordon Gekko II · Post by **Gordon Gekko II** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:31 am

i didn't realize my question would be such a tough one to answer and drum up someone "calling me out". not sure why or for what i'm being called out for.

it's an honest question that i (and others) are curious about.

if greg's answer is..."i want it to coincide with the start of march madness", then that's his answer. again, just curious...

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:32 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

i didn't realize my question would be such a tough one to answer and drum up someone "calling me out". not sure why or for what i'm being called out for.

it's an honest question that i (and others) are curious about.

if greg's answer is..."i want it to coincide with the start of march madness", then that's his answer. again, just curious... stalker!