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Post by paul metivier » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:03 am

okay was just wondering i get the whole 80% of the total numbers to come up with your team projected numbers to shoot for only thing im not sure about is this do you add all 30 players for your projection or just starters bc obvioulsy guys will be on the bench expecially pitching how would you project you wins and strikeouts if you have say 9 starters and 2 closers and a closer in waiting are you adding the saves you think the closer in waiting might get? thanks in advance for any answers
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Post by Midfield Thinkers » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:08 am

Punctuation is a plus even if, like projections, one is totally guessing at it.

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Post by JohnP » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:24 am

Nicely played - :D

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Post by Edwards Kings » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:41 pm

Originally posted by paul metivier:

okay was just wondering i get the whole 80% of the total numbers to come up with your team projected numbers to shoot for only thing im not sure about is this do you add all 30 players for your projection or just starters bc obvioulsy guys will be on the bench expecially pitching how would you project you wins and strikeouts if you have say 9 starters and 2 closers and a closer in waiting are you adding the saves you think the closer in waiting might get? thanks in advance for any answers I think understand the question. Your fifth grade english teacher would be so disappointed. :D



There is a whole bunch that do not use the strategy to ditch categories while going overboard on others. Many try to get around 80% of the available points, either in the overall (say 80% of 405 available points or 324 points per category) or in the individual leagues (12 points per category).



With a decent amount of history now, most can predict, within a reasonable variance, what cumulative stat (AVG, ERA, WHIP) or counting stat (all others) should get you close to the 80% goal. You would use only the stats generated from the 23 available and active positions (14 offense slots and 9 pitcher slots), not necessarily individual players. The 80% is based on whichever MLB players are active in the 23 slots at any point in time.



The seven bench spots and any stats the players would accumulate while on your bench would not enter into the equation.



I think that was the question and I hope this helps.
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Post by bjoak » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:53 pm

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by paul metivier:

okay was just wondering i get the whole 80% of the total numbers to come up with your team projected numbers to shoot for only thing im not sure about is this do you add all 30 players for your projection or just starters bc obvioulsy guys will be on the bench expecially pitching how would you project you wins and strikeouts if you have say 9 starters and 2 closers and a closer in waiting are you adding the saves you think the closer in waiting might get? thanks in advance for any answers I think understand the question. Your fifth grade english teacher would be so disappointed. :D



There is a whole bunch that do not use the strategy to ditch categories while going overboard on others. Many try to get around 80% of the available points, either in the overall (say 80% of 405 available points or 324 points per category) or in the individual leagues (12 points per category).



With a decent amount of history now, most can predict, within a reasonable variance, what cumulative stat (AVG, ERA, WHIP) or counting stat (all others) should get you close to the 80% goal. You would use only the stats generated from the 23 available and active positions (14 offense slots and 9 pitcher slots), not necessarily individual players. The 80% is based on whichever MLB players are active in the 23 slots at any point in time.



The seven bench spots and any stats the players would accumulate while on your bench would not enter into the equation.



I think that was the question and I hope this helps.
[/QUOTE]Nah, I think he's asking how you account for all the faab guys and bench guys that will inevitably end up on your team. That's sort of a personal choice, but a lot of people will use replacement value for that.



You project Player X for less at bats at third base than usual based on the likelihood he will go on the DL. Say you project 50 less at bats than he'd have in a healthy season. Then you add on what you might reasonably expect to get from a replacement you got between the 23rd round and waivers: maybe a homer, a stolen base, a .260 average and a sprinkling of other counting stats. You add those to Player X's season stats and now you have a (perhaps) better idea of what you will get from third base.



That's just one way to handle that issue but maybe it is the way that most helps to answer your question.
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Post by ThatGuy » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:28 pm

Originally posted by paul metivier:

okay was just wondering i get the whole 80% of the total numbers to come up with your team projected numbers to shoot for only thing im not sure about is this do you add all 30 players for your projection or just starters bc obvioulsy guys will be on the bench expecially pitching how would you project you wins and strikeouts if you have say 9 starters and 2 closers and a closer in waiting are you adding the saves you think the closer in waiting might get? thanks in advance for any answers I'm a fifth grade teacher, perhaps I can translate. Whoops, no way. Sorry.

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Post by Dan M » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:55 am

My apologies in advance for poor grammar and spelling.



I am new to the NFBC, but I created a spreadsheet that uses 2010 projections for the 23 drafted spots, 14 hitters and 9 pitchers. I analyze each mock draft and compare them to my pre-set targets. You can use the 80% of the total points for your targets, I use avg. of 80-20-80-12-.280 per player as my hitting targets.



80% of 150 points (15 team league) is 120 points. Which is an average of 12 (which means you need to be ranked 4th in all 10 CAT's.

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Post by Bama » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:12 am

Originally posted by Dan M:

My apologies in advance for poor grammar and spelling.



I am new to the NFBC, but I created a spreadsheet that uses 2010 projections for the 23 drafted spots, 14 hitters and 9 pitchers. I analyze each mock draft and compare them to my pre-set targets. You can use the 80% of the total points for your targets, I use avg. of 80-20-80-12-.280 per player as my hitting targets.



80% of 150 points (15 team league) is 120 points. Which is an average of 12 (which means you need to be ranked 4th in all 10 CAT's. Looks like you on the right track. The actual #'s going to higher or lower depending on type of league and owners abilities. I use something closer to 81-20-77-12-.280 as a guide but i didnt do an analysis of last years #'s to see if an adjustment was needed.

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Post by Edwards Kings » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:46 pm

Originally posted by ThatGuy:

quote:Originally posted by paul metivier:

okay was just wondering i get the whole 80% of the total numbers to come up with your team projected numbers to shoot for only thing im not sure about is this do you add all 30 players for your projection or just starters bc obvioulsy guys will be on the bench expecially pitching how would you project you wins and strikeouts if you have say 9 starters and 2 closers and a closer in waiting are you adding the saves you think the closer in waiting might get? thanks in advance for any answers I'm a fifth grade teacher, perhaps I can translate. Whoops, no way. Sorry. [/QUOTE]A fifth grade teacher? Really! Good for you. Listen, can you tell MY fifth grade teacher, Mrs. Rahn, that my dog REALLY ate my homework!



Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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Post by Edwards Kings » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:47 pm

Originally posted by Bama:

quote:Originally posted by Dan M:

My apologies in advance for poor grammar and spelling.



I am new to the NFBC, but I created a spreadsheet that uses 2010 projections for the 23 drafted spots, 14 hitters and 9 pitchers. I analyze each mock draft and compare them to my pre-set targets. You can use the 80% of the total points for your targets, I use avg. of 80-20-80-12-.280 per player as my hitting targets.



80% of 150 points (15 team league) is 120 points. Which is an average of 12 (which means you need to be ranked 4th in all 10 CAT's. Looks like you on the right track. The actual #'s going to higher or lower depending on type of league and owners abilities. I use something closer to 81-20-77-12-.280 as a guide but i didnt do an analysis of last years #'s to see if an adjustment was needed.
[/QUOTE]I think everyone's numbers will be very close to yours, but the BA has been on the rise a bit over the past couple of years, for whatever reason. Maybe .282?
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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