Thoughts on Satellite League last night

[The Good Doctor]

R1 P2 SS Hanley Ramirez, FLA

R2 P14 2B Brandon Phillips, CIN

R3 P2 SP Roy Halladay, PHI

R4 P14 OF Manny Ramirez, LA

R5 P2 OF Adam Dunn, WAS [1B]

R6 P14 OF Bobby Abreu, ANA

R7 P2 SP Chris Carpenter, STL

R8 P14 RP Huston Street, COL

R9 P2 SP Matt Cain, SF

R10 P14 OF Jason Kubel, MIN

R11 P2 OF Denard Span, MIN

R12 P14 C Yadier Molina, STL

R13 P2 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN

R14 P14 3B Casey McGehee, MIL [2B]

R15 P2 RP Octavio Dotel, PIT

R16 P14 1B Paul Konerko, CHW

R17 P2 SP Joe Blanton, PHI

R18 P14 OF Lastings Milledge, PIT

R19 P2 SP Brian Matusz, BAL

R20 P14 1B Nick Johnson, NYY

R21 P2 2B Luis Castillo, NYM

R22 P14 OF Melky Cabrera, ATL

R23 P2 C Alex Avila, DET

R24 P14 OF Will Venable, SD

R25 P2 SP Brandon Morrow, TOR

R26 P14 RP Drew Storen, WAS

R27 P2 SP Fausto Carmona, CLE

R28 P14 3B Scott Rolen, CIN

R29 P2 C Adam Moore, SEA

R30 P14 2B Ronnie Belliard, WAS



I figured that people didn't like these posts, but here is my team from last week's satellite. My own self assessment. I went pitcher heavy early which I wanted. I expect to do well in ERA, WHIP, K, and BAvg (despite Dunn). Always take an NL pitcher over an AL pitcher and expect a little extra froma left-handed Yankee bat (see N. Johnson). Liriano can't kill me two years in a row (well probably). Lots of question marks, of course. Fewer if Laird hurts himself in a spring training drunken brawl. However, the back end of the draft is typically something that gets released to pick up free agents anyways. Easier to take a few chances at the back end in mid-February when roles are yet to be determined.

[DOUGHBOYS]

Abreu at 6.14, were they asleep at the wheel?

[The Good Doctor]

With Shin Soo Choo gone in the mid 2nd round, you might say some were asleep.

[Paul Gromek]

I was in that draft last week as well. Choo has an outside chance to produce 2nd round value, but there was no reason to take him in round 2. The guy that took Choo didn't take a SP until round 14.



Abreu is an interesting player. His strong all-around skill-set says that he will probably decline slowly, but can you expect 30 steals again? He could be a great value there, but I just don't want to be caught owning him when the music stops.

[Sebadiah23]

I was in that draft too. Chart and Eli made some nice picks. Ash made a nice donation and was rude in the chatroom to boot, telling people to shutup and pick.



Good luck Nate and Eli.



-Craig

[Sebadiah23]

Until they test for HGH, it's impossible to predict when a guy will start to decline.

[The RoundTrippers]

Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

I was in that draft too. Chart and Eli made some nice picks. Ash made a nice donation and was rude in the chatroom to boot, telling people to shutup and pick.



Good luck Nate and Eli.



-Craig after reviewing ash's team, he may want to pay a bit more attention to the draft. whats the obsession with 1b?? especially since clement will also qualify. papelbon and wainwright and a prayer. i agree seb looks like a donation. just calling it as i see it.

[EliGrimmett]

Thanks Craig! I just checked out your team and it actually looks pretty good.

[Sebadiah23]

Thanks man.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Paul Gromek:

I was in that draft last week as well. Choo has an outside chance to produce 2nd round value, but there was no reason to take him in round 2. The guy that took Choo didn't take a SP until round 14.



Abreu is an interesting player. His strong all-around skill-set says that he will probably decline slowly, but can you expect 30 steals again? He could be a great value there, but I just don't want to be caught owning him when the music stops. you may be right, but there's not a 4 round difference between choo and abreu...if what we want is value? who has more in this instance?

[Sebadiah23]

If you decide to take the stance that you NEED Choo, fair enough if you really like him, but you take him in 4th or if you're really paranoid late in the 3rd. To take him in the second is delusional.

[billywaz]

Originally posted by Schwks:

Ash, Is it me or your sp Wainwright and 6 question marks? Exactly what I thought.



That SP is pretty brutal.

[rkulaski]

Originally posted by billywaz:

quote:Originally posted by Schwks:

Ash, Is it me or your sp Wainwright and 6 question marks? Exactly what I thought.



That SP is pretty brutal. [/QUOTE]ash's SP is bad but what was he thinking with that 14th rd pick (even IF he was catcher eligible, which he is not).

[The Good Doctor]

I always feel like Abreu's poor steals could be 15, but I try to protect against one guy's poor season (or injury) by having guys that are balanced across the board. Having someone like Reyes go down (as the major source of team speed) moves someone from feeling like a top 5 finish in steals to a bottom 5 finish. I would be happy with 0.285 90R, 16 HR, 90 RBI, 20 SB from Abreu. The next 5 OFs taken were: Hamilton, Quentin, Hunter, Bourn, and Ibanez.

[JRubenstein]

And here is another team from that league:

C Miguel Montero ARI R7 P9 Comment

C Carlos Ruiz PHI R16 P7 Comment

1B Ryan Howard PHI R1 P9 Comment

2B Dan Uggla FLA R6 P7 Comment

2B Kelly Johnson ARI R14 P7 Comment

2B Luis Valbuena CLE R22 P7 Comment

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R2 P7 Comment

3B Aramis Ramirez CHC R4 P7 Comment

3B Mark DeRosa SF R12 P7 Comment

3B Kevin Kouzmanoff OAK R13 P9 Comment

3B Juan Uribe SF R23 P9 Comment

OF Jason Kubel MIN R9 P9 Comment

OF Michael Cuddyer MIN R10 P7 Comment

OF Mike Cameron BOS R17 P9 Comment

OF David DeJesus KC R19 P9 Comment

OF Travis Snider TOR R20 P7 Comment

OF Seth Smith COL R24 P7 Comment

SP Dan Haren ARI R3 P9 Comment

SP Josh Beckett BOS R5 P9 Comment

SP Rich Harden TEX R15 P9 Comment

SP Johnny Cueto CIN R18 P7 Comment

SP Jason Hammel COL R21 P9 Comment

SP Luke Hochevar KC R25 P9 Comment

SP Gio Gonzalez OAK R26 P7 Comment

SP Carlos Carrasco CLE R29 P9 Comment

SP Brett Cecil TOR R30 P7 Comment

RP Huston Street COL R8 P7 Comment

RP Frank Francisco TEX R11 P9 Comment

RP Brandon League SEA R27 P9 Comment

RP Scott Downs TOR R28 P7 Comment



Comments?

[Hard Heads]

Originally posted by JRubenstein:

And here is another team from that league:

C Miguel Montero ARI R7 P9 Comment

C Carlos Ruiz PHI R16 P7 Comment

1B Ryan Howard PHI R1 P9 Comment

2B Dan Uggla FLA R6 P7 Comment

2B Kelly Johnson ARI R14 P7 Comment

2B Luis Valbuena CLE R22 P7 Comment

SS Jimmy Rollins PHI R2 P7 Comment

3B Aramis Ramirez CHC R4 P7 Comment

3B Mark DeRosa SF R12 P7 Comment

3B Kevin Kouzmanoff OAK R13 P9 Comment

3B Juan Uribe SF R23 P9 Comment

OF Jason Kubel MIN R9 P9 Comment

OF Michael Cuddyer MIN R10 P7 Comment

OF Mike Cameron BOS R17 P9 Comment

OF David DeJesus KC R19 P9 Comment

OF Travis Snider TOR R20 P7 Comment

OF Seth Smith COL R24 P7 Comment

SP Dan Haren ARI R3 P9 Comment

SP Josh Beckett BOS R5 P9 Comment

SP Rich Harden TEX R15 P9 Comment

SP Johnny Cueto CIN R18 P7 Comment

SP Jason Hammel COL R21 P9 Comment

SP Luke Hochevar KC R25 P9 Comment

SP Gio Gonzalez OAK R26 P7 Comment

SP Carlos Carrasco CLE R29 P9 Comment

SP Brett Cecil TOR R30 P7 Comment

RP Huston Street COL R8 P7 Comment

RP Frank Francisco TEX R11 P9 Comment

RP Brandon League SEA R27 P9 Comment

RP Scott Downs TOR R28 P7 Comment



Comments? Pitching will need to cover your 2pts you will get in average and sb's

[Ryan C]

For me this draft kinda fell apart at rd 12/13/14.



Kelly Johnson - DeRosa - Kouzmanoff. I think if you went back and looked at the Pitchers you passed on before tabbing Harden in 15 you might think twice about these picks. I think DeRosa and Kouz back to back both stick out to me since you already had a quality 3B and a better guy in Cuddyer to stick at CI if you wanted. I would rather see another SP here or maybe better OF's than Cameron and Dejesus. Maybe even an upgrade from Ruiz a C.



I like the Valbuena pick at 22 - but hate the Uribe pick at 23. He's your backup to your backups at 2b/ss/3b so he's basically useless to you unless major injuries strike. Wished you'd have grabbed an SP there as well. I like your collection of young arms but I wouldn't want to be forced to rely on any of them too much.



You can make this team work - because you have a decent core. Don't be afraid to act quickly to shore up that pitching staff. I would try to identify which players you can cut for the first FAAB period and grab some more pitching. My two top candidates to go would be Uribe (sorry I know you spent a decent pick on him) and Carrasco (if he doesn't get a job in the rotation - which I don't think he will). Good luck with the season.

[Schwks]

montero can not and will never produce 7th round numbers

[eddiejag]

Why so down on Uribe if he gets at bats he can mash.

Isnt Freddy Sanchez hurt and wont be ready for the start of the season.If thats true Uribe will be playing,look at his 2nd half numbers.

249 at bats

293 bavg

14 homers with 40 rbi's.

It is the 23rd round i would give him a chance.



I do agree with you about taking some starting pitching over Kouzmanoff and Derosa.

[Ryan C]

Just because he needed pitching there more than he needed another MI or CI - not so much because I'm down on Uribe. When he chose him - he had his MI/CI filled and backed up. He could hang on to Uribe - but will he play him in this lineup. I guess he could help with the new FRI rule - so actually I see his added value. So then he has to decide which arm he is willing to cut bait on.



If he believes in Hochevar, Gio G and Cecil then he probably wants to hold them a bit. If he likes his two closer's in waiting then he holds them for awhile. If he's going to make a move in the first FAAB period - who should he be prepared to cut. I say first candidate Carrasco.



[ February 26, 2010, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Ryan Carey ]

[Gekko]

Originally posted by Schwks:

montero can not and will never produce 7th round numbers ummm, you must not be looking at the correct montero

[Spartacus]

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Schwks:

montero can not and will never produce 7th round numbers ummm, you must not be looking at the correct montero [/QUOTE]I think I know the problem GG, he's looking at the photo in Montero's caption in Fanball's 2nd publication. Which if I'm correct is actually Augie Ojeda, but a right handed batter in any case. That could confuse anyone

[eddiejag]

Originally posted by Ryan Carey:

Just because he needed pitching there more than he needed another MI or CI - not so much because I'm down on Uribe. When he chose him - he had his MI/CI filled and backed up. He could hang on to Uribe - but will he play him in this lineup. I guess he could help with the new FRI rule - so actually I see his added value. So then he has to decide which arm he is willing to cut bait on.



If he believes in Hochevar, Gio G and Cecil then he probably wants to hold them a bit. If he likes his two closer's in waiting then he holds them for awhile. If he's going to make a move in the first FAAB period - who should he be prepared to cut. I say first candidate Carrasco. Agree with all as i wasnt loooking at the total roster.He could actually end up cutting all four of those pichers by week two.

[Spyhunter]

At first blush, I like Chart's team the best. Catcher is an easy position to pick up a hot player off the waiver wire.. Good balance of offense and pitching. OF could be better o/c but who doesn't have an issue somewhere?

[Schwks]

Spaced...thought it was the Yankee prospect also a C, who probably will not see enough abs to have 7th rd value