Anyone else watching the Mets/Cardinals?

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:15 pm

0 to 0 in the 18th! Unreal

Y Molina has caught it all so far for St. Louis. yikes...

viper · Post by **viper** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:28 pm

for the Cardinals, Felipe Lopez was replaced on the mound with Joe Mather.

This is a sentence that no one could have predicted.

JeffSeilhamer · Post by **JeffSeilhamer** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:34 pm

And Kyle Loshe in Left Field..

Oh and thanks to Jason Bay and his big 0-7..

But the real thanks goes to Ubaldo Jimenez

That'll help out the ERA and WHIP

MadCow Sez · Post by **MadCow Sez** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:41 pm

F. Lopez ss-3b-p-3b

and

J. Mather ph-cf-3b-p (in line for the loss in the 19th w/o giving up a hit)

Ludwick leads off and gets caught stealing with Pujols at the plate. WTH? Pujols long deep double right after the CS and the power hitting Lohse up to bat.

[ April 17, 2010, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: MadCow Sez ]

Geoffrey Stein · Post by **Geoffrey Stein** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:44 pm

Originally posted by viper:

for the Cardinals, Felipe Lopez was replaced on the mound with Joe Mather.

This is a sentence that no one could have predicted. Only nine more games until they're eligible!

JeffSeilhamer · Post by **JeffSeilhamer** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:49 pm

Of course now K-Rod blows my save. And he still doesn't have one this year!

He better get the vulture win.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:16 pm

Originally posted by Geoffrey Stein:

quote:Originally posted by viper:

for the Cardinals, Felipe Lopez was replaced on the mound with Joe Mather.

This is a sentence that no one could have predicted. Only nine more games until they're eligible! [/QUOTE]Does a pitcher qualify as a UT hitter after his 10th pinch hit appearance? Did I really ask that?

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:54 pm

Originally posted by viper:

quote:Originally posted by Geoffrey Stein:

quote:Originally posted by viper:

for the Cardinals, Felipe Lopez was replaced on the mound with Joe Mather.

This is a sentence that no one could have predicted. Only nine more games until they're eligible! [/QUOTE]Does a pitcher qualify as a UT hitter after his 10th pinch hit appearance? Did I really ask that? [/QUOTE]Thats a good question considering that Carlos Zambrano pitch hits quite a bit for the Cubs..

Back to the game...this will take a start away from all the vets..namely the catchers..and OUCH to Bay, Reyes and the rest that went O for the evening...

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:56 pm

bet you dont see this again.

Krod win and Pelfrey save...

although we dont see it the other way too much either

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:23 am

Wow, what a wild day/night of baseball. Ubaldo Jimenez throws a no-hitter with six walks. Did I hear right or did the Braves' fans actually boo when he got the no-hitter? I know they weren't booing Jimenez -- they were displeased with their home team -- but don't fans usually cheer when they witness history? I was surprised at that.

He was wildly effective. Nobody on the Braves hit the ball hard. Pretty impressive.

And that Cards game was still going on when the no-hitter ended. That was crazy.

kgrady · Post by **kgrady** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:12 am

Fascinating game to watch from a strategy standpoint. Tony LaRussa really backed himself into a corner due to his propensity for pitching changes and double switches. He used up all his relievers and chose to pitch infielder Felipe Lopez and outfielder Joe Mather rather than use one of his starting pitchers in relief. Also, one of LaRussa's double switches left him with the pitcher batting behind Albert Pujols. This made it ridiculously easy for Jerry Manuel to intentionally walk Pujols each time he came to the plate. LaRussa is rightfully praised for his success as a skipper, but this game was not one of his shining moments.

Kevin

MadCow Sez · Post by **MadCow Sez** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:35 am

Originally posted by kgrady:

Fascinating game to watch from a strategy standpoint. Tony LaRussa really backed himself into a corner due to his propensity for pitching changes and double switches. He used up all his relievers and chose to pitch infielder Felipe Lopez and outfielder Joe Mather rather than use one of his starting pitchers in relief. Also, one of LaRussa's double switches left him with the pitcher batting behind Albert Pujols. This made it ridiculously easy for Jerry Manuel to intentionally walk Pujols each time he came to the plate. LaRussa is rightfully praised for his success as a skipper, but this game was not one of his shining moments.

Kevin I still can't get over the Ludwick CS. Lohse isn't the guy you fear at the plate covering Pujols. Ludwick may not score on that double by Pujols but you would have runners on 2B and 3B at least. Are you really gonna IBB Lohse to load the bases with nobody out?

I have to admit using position players to finish out may help later. Seem to remember an early season extra inning game in the NL West a year or two ago where they brought an SP back to pitch relief and that pretty much shot his season afterward. Wonder if Pelfrey will have some ill effects later on.

No matter what...that was a fun game to follow after UJ's no-no.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:57 am

Originally posted by MadCow Sez:

Seem to remember an early season extra inning game in the NL West a year or two ago where they brought an SP back to pitch relief and that pretty much shot his season afterward. This may be Aaron Harang from 2008, which I personally believe has been over-exaggerated with respect to the effect it has had on him.

kgrady · Post by **kgrady** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:39 pm

I'm not especially critical of the fact that Tony LaRussa used position players on the mound in a 20 inning game. Rather I question how he got to that point. LaRussa tends to overmanage. He makes far too many pitching changes. He removes pitchers who are pitching well simply to gain a short-term platoon advantage. This catches up with him occasionally in two different ways. One is that he runs out of pitchers like he did in this game. The other is that he takes out an effective pitcher only to stumble across another hurler who has nothing on that given day and blows the game.

Kevin

crazytown · Post by **crazytown** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:46 pm

Molina catching tonight after 20 last night.