Maybe since I'm a rookie here, this whole FAAB process is well, a mess. OK, I think it's fair to say the current system and its inconsistancies need to be fixed, right? So, how will this be handled for the balance of the year? Next year?
I'm chasing wins and K's in my league with a very outside shot at some overall money. However, the best FAAB option for 2 starts isn't available even though he's on the active 25 man roster as of yesterday?
While I respect the ruling and the previous rulings for players, it's making the whole process more confusing for all players. I'm sure you could check, but I'd be willing to think the majority of players don't even read the boards to see who is and isn't available to bid on every Sunday.
I still think the best solution involves using the 40 man roster with somebody manually checking the moves prior to the deadline. It's not my business or decision. I just want things to run smoother and easier for everybody....Gee, Greg and Tom, I bet you'd hate to have everybody stop jumping down your throats.
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Originally posted by Oaktown:
So he was called up in time and was in the player pool with STATS until he was manually taken out, but somehow he is not available?
Yet I was able to get and keep James McDonald and found out later he never should have been eligible, but all his stats sure counted.
Oh well. Sigh, what a frustrating year for a game I really love. exactly, and lets go back to the Sunday where Fanball made the decision to change John Jaso's position eligibility on a Sunday. That was a move made with less than 3 hours til the deadline.
Seems like a case of being selective on what rules to enforce regarding manually changing things on a Sunday.
So he was called up in time and was in the player pool with STATS until he was manually taken out, but somehow he is not available?
Yet I was able to get and keep James McDonald and found out later he never should have been eligible, but all his stats sure counted.
Oh well. Sigh, what a frustrating year for a game I really love. exactly, and lets go back to the Sunday where Fanball made the decision to change John Jaso's position eligibility on a Sunday. That was a move made with less than 3 hours til the deadline.
Seems like a case of being selective on what rules to enforce regarding manually changing things on a Sunday.
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Originally posted by Catch:
Is it possible that STATS did not include MINOR in its feed because MINOR was in a feed earlier in the week? ding. ding. we have a winner. until i can confirm with STATS that STATSwas at fault, this was an error at Fanball.
i'd like to know what "list" STATS sends to Fanball everyday. is it new additions to the player pool or is it all players on a major league team?
Is it possible that STATS did not include MINOR in its feed because MINOR was in a feed earlier in the week? ding. ding. we have a winner. until i can confirm with STATS that STATSwas at fault, this was an error at Fanball.
i'd like to know what "list" STATS sends to Fanball everyday. is it new additions to the player pool or is it all players on a major league team?
Mike Minor
Originally posted by JohnZ:
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
john - does your game use STATS as the player pool provider?
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
john - does your game use STATS as the player pool provider?
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Originally posted by JohnZ:
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
john - does your game use STATS as the player pool provider?
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
john - does your game use STATS as the player pool provider?
Mike Minor
Originally posted by Juan LYB:
Maybe since I'm a rookie here, this whole FAAB process is well, a mess. OK, I think it's fair to say the current system and its inconsistancies need to be fixed, right? So, how will this be handled for the balance of the year? Next year?
Lift. Rug. Sweep.
Maybe since I'm a rookie here, this whole FAAB process is well, a mess. OK, I think it's fair to say the current system and its inconsistancies need to be fixed, right? So, how will this be handled for the balance of the year? Next year?
Lift. Rug. Sweep.
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Everyone,
I just returned from Green Bay, but have been in contact with Tom and Geoff about this all morning. Our player pool rules are very specific and we all agreed to them several years ago to allow people to have a life on Sundays. We close the player pool from any new additions at 7 am ET on Sundays so that everyone knows who is in the pool at that point and can plan their day accordingly. We all know that not keeping that player pool open all day is good for our personal lives.
We could have easily manually added Minor to the player pool this morning after folks complained that he wasn't there, but that's not being true to our rule. We rely on STATS to provide us with the player pool, which they get directly from MLB. That has been the case every year since 2004 and in the past couple of years we've had complaints that people read where a player was called up on Saturday night and he wasn't available on Sunday morning. That's because officially the team didn't do whatever is needed for MLB to officially insert him on the team.
I saw the links that MLB had the Braves activating him last night. I'll gladly check with our contact at STATS to see when he was added to the player pool today and post a time if I can get it. I assume the Braves announced that they were calling him up and will officially do so before today's game. Did they take someone off their roster last night for him or did they wait until after the game? I'm not sure but I'll find out and post when he was added to the player pool.
We have been accused of doing a lot wrong with the player pool this year, but keeping a player OUT has not happened this year. We've put them in before they were eligible and finally solved that problem (I sure hope), but we haven't kept anyone out willingly or wrongly. If we are at fault with this one, I'll admit it, but I think he wasn't added to the MLB roster in time. Again, I'll find out and post the answer. I just don't think WE held him out.
Again, I could have easily added him manually to keep everyone happy. I could do that with DL designations too on Fridays when folks read on an Internet site that he went on the DL, but I HAVE to rely on the official player pools from MLB, just like we always had. So I did not go against our rules on this one and will trust that our player pool was correct. If STATS had him in there and we kept him out, I'll say so here as soon as I find out. But I trust that our player pool was accurate at 7 am. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
I just returned from Green Bay, but have been in contact with Tom and Geoff about this all morning. Our player pool rules are very specific and we all agreed to them several years ago to allow people to have a life on Sundays. We close the player pool from any new additions at 7 am ET on Sundays so that everyone knows who is in the pool at that point and can plan their day accordingly. We all know that not keeping that player pool open all day is good for our personal lives.
We could have easily manually added Minor to the player pool this morning after folks complained that he wasn't there, but that's not being true to our rule. We rely on STATS to provide us with the player pool, which they get directly from MLB. That has been the case every year since 2004 and in the past couple of years we've had complaints that people read where a player was called up on Saturday night and he wasn't available on Sunday morning. That's because officially the team didn't do whatever is needed for MLB to officially insert him on the team.
I saw the links that MLB had the Braves activating him last night. I'll gladly check with our contact at STATS to see when he was added to the player pool today and post a time if I can get it. I assume the Braves announced that they were calling him up and will officially do so before today's game. Did they take someone off their roster last night for him or did they wait until after the game? I'm not sure but I'll find out and post when he was added to the player pool.
We have been accused of doing a lot wrong with the player pool this year, but keeping a player OUT has not happened this year. We've put them in before they were eligible and finally solved that problem (I sure hope), but we haven't kept anyone out willingly or wrongly. If we are at fault with this one, I'll admit it, but I think he wasn't added to the MLB roster in time. Again, I'll find out and post the answer. I just don't think WE held him out.
Again, I could have easily added him manually to keep everyone happy. I could do that with DL designations too on Fridays when folks read on an Internet site that he went on the DL, but I HAVE to rely on the official player pools from MLB, just like we always had. So I did not go against our rules on this one and will trust that our player pool was correct. If STATS had him in there and we kept him out, I'll say so here as soon as I find out. But I trust that our player pool was accurate at 7 am. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
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Originally posted by JohnZ:
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
So many problems caused by this stupid rule.
If someone wants to have 7 ML's on their team, I don't care. The bench is too thin with no IR and whatever you try to stack your bench with (ML/SP/CL in waiting, backups for all) in this game leaves you short somewhere else. It would ADD to the strategy. John, was he available because of the rules of those games or because those companies got the same feed from STATS and had him available?
I assume by your post above you are referring to our rule about not allowing all minor-leaguers to be picked up at any time during the season. That is a different issue entirely. Again, you believe that creating a free agent pool of every available player is good and allowing owners to hoard minor-leaguers as long as they want is good. I understand that. Some people agree, some don't. But that's a different discussion. I feel strongly that in a no-trade league giving everyone equal access to an undrafted player is a big part of our game. In fact, that is why everyone wants Mike Minor in the pool today because he is so special and nobody had the foresight to draft him and keep him during the season.
Again, I have no problem with that discussion, but as Mark is asking, if you think STATS had him eligible in those games by 7 am ET today and not in ours, then we really have to issue an apology. Was that the case?
He's available in every league I play in but this one.
So many problems caused by this stupid rule.
If someone wants to have 7 ML's on their team, I don't care. The bench is too thin with no IR and whatever you try to stack your bench with (ML/SP/CL in waiting, backups for all) in this game leaves you short somewhere else. It would ADD to the strategy. John, was he available because of the rules of those games or because those companies got the same feed from STATS and had him available?
I assume by your post above you are referring to our rule about not allowing all minor-leaguers to be picked up at any time during the season. That is a different issue entirely. Again, you believe that creating a free agent pool of every available player is good and allowing owners to hoard minor-leaguers as long as they want is good. I understand that. Some people agree, some don't. But that's a different discussion. I feel strongly that in a no-trade league giving everyone equal access to an undrafted player is a big part of our game. In fact, that is why everyone wants Mike Minor in the pool today because he is so special and nobody had the foresight to draft him and keep him during the season.
Again, I have no problem with that discussion, but as Mark is asking, if you think STATS had him eligible in those games by 7 am ET today and not in ours, then we really have to issue an apology. Was that the case?
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Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
We rely on STATS to provide us with the player pool, which they get directly from MLB. Greg,
Why was Mike Minor included in the feed from STATS to Fanball earlier this week?
We rely on STATS to provide us with the player pool, which they get directly from MLB. Greg,
Why was Mike Minor included in the feed from STATS to Fanball earlier this week?
Mike Minor
Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:
We are not going to manually add a player if he wasn't included in the STATS list provided to us by Sunday morning's deadline. Greg and I are sorry if this decision upsets people but we are not going to make a decision that is contrary to what our rules state. How was he in the pool on Friday? Is there a different list that is used on Friday vs Sunday?
We are not going to manually add a player if he wasn't included in the STATS list provided to us by Sunday morning's deadline. Greg and I are sorry if this decision upsets people but we are not going to make a decision that is contrary to what our rules state. How was he in the pool on Friday? Is there a different list that is used on Friday vs Sunday?
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Originally posted by Gekko:
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right.
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right.
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Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right. [/QUOTE]ok. thank you for looking into this. from tom's posts earlier today, it didn't sound like anything was going to be looked at.
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right. [/QUOTE]ok. thank you for looking into this. from tom's posts earlier today, it didn't sound like anything was going to be looked at.
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Originally posted by Gekko:
another Fanball mistake. simply amazing.
i can do without any more enhancements this year. but i can't do without the rules being enforced. i don't think i'm alone in saying this year has the least amount of integrity EVER associated with the NFBC. not only do you have to beat your competitors...you have to beat the Fanball system.
are you guys TRYING to drive business away for next year? if so, you are doing a good job. I promise I'll find out what happened here and post. If it was our error, I'll say so. If he wasn't officially in the player pool from MLB, then we'll post that. That's how I ruled it when he wasn't there at 7 am ET this morning.
another Fanball mistake. simply amazing.
i can do without any more enhancements this year. but i can't do without the rules being enforced. i don't think i'm alone in saying this year has the least amount of integrity EVER associated with the NFBC. not only do you have to beat your competitors...you have to beat the Fanball system.
are you guys TRYING to drive business away for next year? if so, you are doing a good job. I promise I'll find out what happened here and post. If it was our error, I'll say so. If he wasn't officially in the player pool from MLB, then we'll post that. That's how I ruled it when he wasn't there at 7 am ET this morning.
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Originally posted by Gekko:
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right. [/QUOTE]ok. thank you for looking into this. from tom's posts earlier today, it didn't sound like anything was going to be looked at. [/QUOTE]I sure hope people haven't lost THAT MUCH confidence in us. Of course we are looking into it. As I told Tom this morning, we just can't manually add players when folks see Internet reports about their eligibility. We pay to have our player pools and stats official, and we run the back-end to run all of this correctly. I'll admit, it's all starting to drain on all of us, but dammit you have to trust your back-end to have all of this right.
Of course we'll report the truth. There have been other instances of player eligibilities or stats even just this week that people thought we were wrong on and we weren't. I sure hope the Braves held off until before game time on this one!! But I've asked for all of this and it will be reported rightly or wrongly. Of course we're looking into this, but nothing can change for this week. Too many people have seen the player pool and made their bids appropriately.
quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:
quote:Originally posted by Gekko:
Since Fanball manually pulled Minor from the FAAB pool, does that mean Fanball has to manually add him back? If so, was that done yesterday? You are correct, we did correct our player pool on Friday when we saw Minor in there and we finally figured out why some pitchers were being added early. I'm told we fixed it for good.
Now we refresh the player pool each night from a STATS feed, so we definitely got feeds on Saturday morning and Sunday morning before 7 am. He should have been there today if he was on the MLB roster. But you are right, if we are at fault in this this would be the reason. I will find out now, but every player should have been there this morning who were on MLB rosters.
I know he's a two-start pitcher this week. That is why we jumped on this as soon as we saw it on Friday. We knew how critical this was. I'm being as honest as I can and will get all answers and if we are at fault we have to admit it. But I trusted that our player pool was right. [/QUOTE]ok. thank you for looking into this. from tom's posts earlier today, it didn't sound like anything was going to be looked at. [/QUOTE]I sure hope people haven't lost THAT MUCH confidence in us. Of course we are looking into it. As I told Tom this morning, we just can't manually add players when folks see Internet reports about their eligibility. We pay to have our player pools and stats official, and we run the back-end to run all of this correctly. I'll admit, it's all starting to drain on all of us, but dammit you have to trust your back-end to have all of this right.
Of course we'll report the truth. There have been other instances of player eligibilities or stats even just this week that people thought we were wrong on and we weren't. I sure hope the Braves held off until before game time on this one!! But I've asked for all of this and it will be reported rightly or wrongly. Of course we're looking into this, but nothing can change for this week. Too many people have seen the player pool and made their bids appropriately.
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I agree there is no way to put Minor back into the pool. It's too late at this point and unfair to the 2/3 of players who have no clue about the situation.
Problem is, this shouldn't have happened and it needs to be correct in the future. No doubt it would cut down on your intake of Iburprofen for the headaches.
Problem is, this shouldn't have happened and it needs to be correct in the future. No doubt it would cut down on your intake of Iburprofen for the headaches.
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Originally posted by Juan LYB:
I agree there is no way to put Minor back into the pool. It's too late at this point and unfair to the 2/3 of players who have no clue about the situation.
Problem is, this shouldn't have happened and it needs to be correct in the future. No doubt it would cut down on your intake of Iburprofen for the headaches. Well, I am ruling as if it was correct.
Our rules are set up this way for a reason, whether folks agree with our minor-league rule or not and whether folks wish we had a longer Sunday addition list or not. Both rules are set up for a purpose. And now I have to hope we had the player pool correct this morning.
I agree there is no way to put Minor back into the pool. It's too late at this point and unfair to the 2/3 of players who have no clue about the situation.
Problem is, this shouldn't have happened and it needs to be correct in the future. No doubt it would cut down on your intake of Iburprofen for the headaches. Well, I am ruling as if it was correct.
Our rules are set up this way for a reason, whether folks agree with our minor-league rule or not and whether folks wish we had a longer Sunday addition list or not. Both rules are set up for a purpose. And now I have to hope we had the player pool correct this morning.
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having a life on sundays is a commendable goal, but with the unemployment rate where it is, perhaps hiring a weekend watch crew would assure efficient machinery; after all, this isn't life, it's fkng fantasy; this internet thing should make things easier, shouldn't it
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How does Dan Hudson officially get called up on Sunday, July 11 make the Stats list for July 11 FAAB and Minor officially called up on Saturday, August 7 not make the list for Aug 8 FAAB? Doesn't make any sense. You pay Stats for the service but then admittedy you still monitor the list. You admittedly knew that Minor was a 2-start pitcher for this week and that you were facing a potential issue, yet nobody bothered to check the MLB transaction log or double check with Stats to make sure on Minor?
Mike Minor
Add me to the camp in favor of having minor lge players available for FAAB.
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FYI,
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
Pasted below is a link to CBS' transaction page. This whole circus is rather confusing. The one thing that we as a group are not privvy to is how MLB teams communicate their moves with the league offices. They very well could have farmed out Kawakami last night but not officially actived Minor until before gametime today.
I will also add that the inconsistencies between disallowing a move like Minor's and the one involving Daniel Hudson (called up on a Sunday morning, yet still avaiable to be bid on that Sunday night) is what I find frustrating the most.
Last updated: Sun, August 8, 2010, 15:31 EDT
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Mike Minor Purchased From Minors
Colorado Rockies Chris Nelson Sent to Minors
Colorado Rockies Esmil Rogers Called Up from Minors
Minnesota Twins Anthony Slama Sent to Minors
Minnesota Twins Orlando Hudson Removed From 15-Day DL, (Strained right oblique muscle)
Tampa Bay Rays Andy Sonnanstine Removed From 15-Day DL, (Strained left hamstring)
Saturday, August 7, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Kenshin Kawakami Sent to Minors
Boston Red Sox Carlos Delgado Signed to a Minor League Contract
Cincinnati Reds Russ Springer Placed on 15-Day DL, (Strained left hip)
Cincinnati Reds Carlos Fisher Called Up from Minors
Los Angeles Angels Rich Thompson Placed on 15-Day DL, (Right shoulder inflammation)
Los Angeles Angels Scott Kazmir Removed From 15-Day DL, (Left shoulder fatigue)
Los Angeles Angels Scott Kazmir Recalled From Minors, Rehab Assignment
Los Angeles Angels Torii Hunter Starting to Serve Suspension
Los Angeles Angels Torii Hunter Suspension Announced By League, (four games)
New York Mets Alex Cora Released
New York Mets Fernando Martinez Called Up from Minors
New York Mets Jesus Feliciano Sent to Minors
New York Mets Ruben Tejada Called Up from Minors
Pittsburgh Pirates Ryan Doumit Removed From 15-Day DL, (Concussion)
Pittsburgh Pirates Ryan Doumit Recalled From Minors, Rehab Assignment
Pittsburgh Pirates Erik Kratz Sent to Minors
San Diego Padres Mike Adams Removed From 15-Day DL, (Strained left oblique)
San Diego Padres Ryan Webb Sent to Minors
Tampa Bay Rays Dale Thayer Sent to Minors
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
Pasted below is a link to CBS' transaction page. This whole circus is rather confusing. The one thing that we as a group are not privvy to is how MLB teams communicate their moves with the league offices. They very well could have farmed out Kawakami last night but not officially actived Minor until before gametime today.
I will also add that the inconsistencies between disallowing a move like Minor's and the one involving Daniel Hudson (called up on a Sunday morning, yet still avaiable to be bid on that Sunday night) is what I find frustrating the most.
Last updated: Sun, August 8, 2010, 15:31 EDT
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Mike Minor Purchased From Minors
Colorado Rockies Chris Nelson Sent to Minors
Colorado Rockies Esmil Rogers Called Up from Minors
Minnesota Twins Anthony Slama Sent to Minors
Minnesota Twins Orlando Hudson Removed From 15-Day DL, (Strained right oblique muscle)
Tampa Bay Rays Andy Sonnanstine Removed From 15-Day DL, (Strained left hamstring)
Saturday, August 7, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Kenshin Kawakami Sent to Minors
Boston Red Sox Carlos Delgado Signed to a Minor League Contract
Cincinnati Reds Russ Springer Placed on 15-Day DL, (Strained left hip)
Cincinnati Reds Carlos Fisher Called Up from Minors
Los Angeles Angels Rich Thompson Placed on 15-Day DL, (Right shoulder inflammation)
Los Angeles Angels Scott Kazmir Removed From 15-Day DL, (Left shoulder fatigue)
Los Angeles Angels Scott Kazmir Recalled From Minors, Rehab Assignment
Los Angeles Angels Torii Hunter Starting to Serve Suspension
Los Angeles Angels Torii Hunter Suspension Announced By League, (four games)
New York Mets Alex Cora Released
New York Mets Fernando Martinez Called Up from Minors
New York Mets Jesus Feliciano Sent to Minors
New York Mets Ruben Tejada Called Up from Minors
Pittsburgh Pirates Ryan Doumit Removed From 15-Day DL, (Concussion)
Pittsburgh Pirates Ryan Doumit Recalled From Minors, Rehab Assignment
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"Luck is the residue of design."
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Mike Minor
Originally posted by Ando:
FYI,
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
FYI - if i ever want something more than gutter trash (sportsline and rotoworld), i look at the team's website on MLB.
According to the Braves website on MLB, Minor was indeed called up YESTERDAY and should be available in FAAB pools. Minor was promoted and Kawakami was demoted. Here is the link:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/tran ... eam_id=144
Minor is also listed on the Braves active roster:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/rost ... p?c_id=atl
FYI,
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
FYI - if i ever want something more than gutter trash (sportsline and rotoworld), i look at the team's website on MLB.
According to the Braves website on MLB, Minor was indeed called up YESTERDAY and should be available in FAAB pools. Minor was promoted and Kawakami was demoted. Here is the link:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/tran ... eam_id=144
Minor is also listed on the Braves active roster:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/rost ... p?c_id=atl
Mike Minor
Apparantly your reliable sources of "The Official" MLB website of the Bravos and the Bravos' active roster reside in the same trash bin!
"Luck is the residue of design."
-Branch Rickey
-Branch Rickey
Mike Minor
Originally posted by Ando:
Apparantly your reliable sources of "The Official" MLB website of the Bravos and the Bravos' active roster reside in the same trash bin!
let's see what Greg's investigation shows. i'm guessing Fanball forgot to manually add Minor back into the FAAB pool.
Apparantly your reliable sources of "The Official" MLB website of the Bravos and the Bravos' active roster reside in the same trash bin!
let's see what Greg's investigation shows. i'm guessing Fanball forgot to manually add Minor back into the FAAB pool.-
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Originally posted by Trash Man:
How does Dan Hudson officially get called up on Sunday, July 11 make the Stats list for July 11 FAAB and Minor officially called up on Saturday, August 7 not make the list for Aug 8 FAAB? Doesn't make any sense. You pay Stats for the service but then admittedy you still monitor the list. You admittedly knew that Minor was a 2-start pitcher for this week and that you were facing a potential issue, yet nobody bothered to check the MLB transaction log or double check with Stats to make sure on Minor? John, we admitted that Hudson being allowed into the FAAB pool after the 7 am ET deadline on Sunday, July 11th was a mistake. That's why we took him out. We admitted we were at fault there; he should NOT have been put in our FAAB pool on Sunday after 7 am ET.
That was a programming error, one that wasn't repeated today after Minor was called up. It looks like he was called up this morning and he correctly wasn't put in the player pool and thankfully wasn't added after 7 am ET. The programming worked like it's supposed to.
We do work every weekend, but we don't just look at MLB.com to manually make transactions. As I said before, we need to rely on the official player lists and rely on them for accuracy to run this contest correctly. Tom and I can't manually make these moves based on message board posts. But we are working each Sunday as you can see.
The problem here -- and trust me, I totally get it -- is that players don't fully trust our player pool because of instances like Hudson previously. I get it. But it looks like we got this one right and we finally have this part of the player pool working well. It didn't work out for owners who wanted Minor for this week, but he will be in the FAAB pool this week per the way we have our rules set up.
How does Dan Hudson officially get called up on Sunday, July 11 make the Stats list for July 11 FAAB and Minor officially called up on Saturday, August 7 not make the list for Aug 8 FAAB? Doesn't make any sense. You pay Stats for the service but then admittedy you still monitor the list. You admittedly knew that Minor was a 2-start pitcher for this week and that you were facing a potential issue, yet nobody bothered to check the MLB transaction log or double check with Stats to make sure on Minor? John, we admitted that Hudson being allowed into the FAAB pool after the 7 am ET deadline on Sunday, July 11th was a mistake. That's why we took him out. We admitted we were at fault there; he should NOT have been put in our FAAB pool on Sunday after 7 am ET.
That was a programming error, one that wasn't repeated today after Minor was called up. It looks like he was called up this morning and he correctly wasn't put in the player pool and thankfully wasn't added after 7 am ET. The programming worked like it's supposed to.
We do work every weekend, but we don't just look at MLB.com to manually make transactions. As I said before, we need to rely on the official player lists and rely on them for accuracy to run this contest correctly. Tom and I can't manually make these moves based on message board posts. But we are working each Sunday as you can see.
The problem here -- and trust me, I totally get it -- is that players don't fully trust our player pool because of instances like Hudson previously. I get it. But it looks like we got this one right and we finally have this part of the player pool working well. It didn't work out for owners who wanted Minor for this week, but he will be in the FAAB pool this week per the way we have our rules set up.
Greg Ambrosius
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General Manager, Consumer Fantasy Games at SportsHub Technologies
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Twitter - @GregAmbrosius
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Originally posted by Ando:
FYI,
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
Pasted below is a link to CBS' transaction page. This whole circus is rather confusing. The one thing that we as a group are not privvy to is how MLB teams communicate their moves with the league offices. They very well could have farmed out Kawakami last night but not officially actived Minor until before gametime today.
I will also add that the inconsistencies between disallowing a move like Minor's and the one involving Daniel Hudson (called up on a Sunday morning, yet still avaiable to be bid on that Sunday night) is what I find frustrating the most.
Last updated: Sun, August 8, 2010, 15:31 EDT
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Mike Minor Purchased From Minors
I haven't heard back from the IT guys yet, but it looks like CBS updated this at 2:31 pm, so that would make sense. Thanks. They have to officially be on an MLB roster to make our player pool, so this makes sense.
Again, Hudson was in the player pool but we had to take him out. The system was not set up properly at that time and we admitted that after he slipped into the pool temporarily. He was available in all leagues the next week as he should have been.
FYI,
I am in a few Home League that are run by CBS Sports. They show Minor as called up on Sunday, August 8th. Also, they show Kawakami as farmed out on Saturday, August 7th. I am aware that Rotoworld remarked on the transaction last night, however, I imagine they "anticipate" corresponding moves. I used CBS and Rotoworld as references for this thread b/c I imagine we all consult those sites on a quasi-regular basis in some form or fashion.
Pasted below is a link to CBS' transaction page. This whole circus is rather confusing. The one thing that we as a group are not privvy to is how MLB teams communicate their moves with the league offices. They very well could have farmed out Kawakami last night but not officially actived Minor until before gametime today.
I will also add that the inconsistencies between disallowing a move like Minor's and the one involving Daniel Hudson (called up on a Sunday morning, yet still avaiable to be bid on that Sunday night) is what I find frustrating the most.
Last updated: Sun, August 8, 2010, 15:31 EDT
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Atlanta Braves Mike Minor Purchased From Minors
I haven't heard back from the IT guys yet, but it looks like CBS updated this at 2:31 pm, so that would make sense. Thanks. They have to officially be on an MLB roster to make our player pool, so this makes sense.
Again, Hudson was in the player pool but we had to take him out. The system was not set up properly at that time and we admitted that after he slipped into the pool temporarily. He was available in all leagues the next week as he should have been.
Greg Ambrosius
Founder, National Fantasy Baseball Championship
General Manager, Consumer Fantasy Games at SportsHub Technologies
Twitter - @GregAmbrosius
Founder, National Fantasy Baseball Championship
General Manager, Consumer Fantasy Games at SportsHub Technologies
Twitter - @GregAmbrosius