Rate your Draft, Quest for $100,000

Ballfour · Post by **Ballfour** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:55 am

OK, What do you guys think?

C J.Lopez

C D.Miller

1B D.Ortiz

CR R.Palmeiro

3B C.Koskie

2B L.Castillo

MD M.Tejada

SS E.Renteria

OF C.Crisp

OF B.Wilkerson

OF C.Floyd

OF R.Ibanez

OF R.Sanders

U J.Lugo

P M.Mussina

P O.Perez

P C.Carpenter

P B.Webb

P E.Milton

P R.Lopez

P J.Williams

P T.Percival

P B.Wagner

Reserves

F.Thomas

M.Byrd

L.A.Gonalez

J.Suppan

J.Contreras

T.Wakefield

B.Lyon

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:55 am

Originally posted by nydownunder:

KJ

I know what mine spits out for mine team, do you mine running it through yours?

C Closser

C Phillips

1B Overbay (#12)

3B ARod (#1)

CI E. Chavez (#2)

2B Spivey/Cantu

SS Greene (#16)

MI Vizquel

OF Huff (#3)

OF Wells (#7)

OF Rowand (#8)

OF Ford

OF Nixon

UT Ibanez

SP Halladay (#4)

SP Bonderman (#9)

SP Escobar (#11)

SP Thomson (#13)

SP Benson (#14)

SP Weaver (#15)

SP Byrd

SP Robertson

RP Dotel (#5)

RP Mota (#7) NY - here is what I get:

54% of pts from pitching. 49th overall, 83rd percentile, 3rd or 4th in your lge.

Very good BA and Pwr, above avg RBI, mediocre runs and low SB. Pitching - good ERA, above avg WHIP, very good W's with above avg K's and Svs (assumes 7 SPs).

MGBMARTY · Post by **MGBMARTY** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:56 am

NY#5 Pick 13

Would appreciate comments on team Had 6th last year and took Prior vowed to myself I would not take 1 in 1s4 rounds

C Inge

C Molina

1b Casey

2b Soriano {1}

SS Young {3}

3b Blake

CI Phelps/Branyan

MI Everett

OF Cabrera [2}

OF Pods {4}

OF Burrell

OF Griffey

OF Ibanez

DH Dye Gathright

SP Beckett

SP Burnett

SP Halladay

SP Webb

SP Lowry

SP Loiaza

SP Capuano

SP Ishii

RP Cordero

RP Wickman

RP Worell

RP MacDougal

RP Riske

Think I have a good team weak at RP but thats why theres free agents plus Wagner is brittle

Thanks

Marty

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:58 am

Originally posted by rotogod:

The Champs starting squad: Triple A. NY league #1. for those of you interested.

c m.barrett

c m.olivo

1b p.konerko

2b m.cuddyer

ss r.furcal

3b a.ramirez

ci b.broussard

mi a.berroa

of i.suzuki

of a.jones

of b.wilkerson

of c.wilson

of j.gibbons

dh m.ensberg

p m.clement

p k.escobar

p a.eaton

p j.lackey

p d.haren

p d.bush

p p.byrd

p j.johnson

cl b.lidge

no complaints with my hitting although i could use a few more steals. have l.matos on reserve who i can squeeze in and hopefully will have a healthy season. could of used another top starter, a little short there. need my sleeper starters to come through to have a chance. took lyon and macdougal for reserve in case aquino and affeldt arent healthy. dont like my team as much as i did leaving the draft last year. with my projected stats this team would of finished 35th overall last year. decent! hopefully with pickups i can improve. what are the odds of winning this again anyway lol wish everyone luck and a great season. artie triple a Artie, I think we have the edge on you this year!!

[ March 21, 2005, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: CC Desperados ]

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:01 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

J.Lopez

G.Zaun

D.Erstad

A.Ramirez

J.Uribe

T.Walker

M.Tejeda

E.Renteria

H.Matsui

R.Winn

J.Reed

E.Chavez

M.Grissom

ut- choice of

L.Rivas

C.Kotchman

L.Nix

A.Kennedy

M.Stairs

D.Bell

Mota

Ryan

Hawkins

Shields

Colon

L.Hernandez

M.Buehele

B.Lawrence

K.Benson

R.Lopez

thought.....

a)I only had a 30% cance on A.Ramirez in 3rd

b)ditto on H.Matsui in 4th

c)I had 0% chance on J.Lopez in 5th. Moved closers to 6/7 from 5/6

d) Buehrle in 11 and R.Lopez in 17 were steals.

e) had to take Erstad for 15 sb's. That could haunt me later. John,

I rate your team out at 55th overall, 81% percentile. Pitching scores 53% of total.

Very high BA, decent r/rbi prodcn, mediocre hr/sb. Very good ERA and WHIP with only Benson in the 4.00s, above avg in both W and SV but hurt by K totals.

Take a look at my roster if you get a chance. Thanks. [/QUOTE]Interesting.... of course, I have myself a tad higher....Stairs, Nix, D.Bell backups could help. Kotchman is looking like he'll be DH against righties and he has like 7 clutch, late RBI hits this spring. I think e's going to get 425 ab. I'll find another starter or two on FA wire and go with 7 starters most weeks to extra K's.

I just wasn't going to take those ERA/ratio killers at the end of the draft others were taking.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:01 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by nydownunder:

GEKKO

BATTING

R HR RBI SB AVG

5.5 10.7 8.5 4.6 8.3 38

(Depending on several players AB's these numbers would rise - but not considerably.)

8.3 for SB. i have myself projected at 142. using most other publications sb projections i'm around 155. that's got to be at least 12 pts. 5.5 for runs look a little light. thanks for the numbers. [/QUOTE]142 add 2...but you're reaching...Runs hurt for the same reason = 1 leadoff/#2 guy

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:04 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

NY and Big, take a look if you get a chance. Thx.

C ...... Johnny Estrada

C ...... Koyie Hill / Matt LeCroy

1B ..... Paul Konerko

3B/CI . Corey Koskie/Garret Atkins

2B ..... Placido Polanco/ Orlando Hudson

SS/MI . Carlos Guillen/ Khalil Greene

OF ..... Carl Crawford

OF ..... Carlos Lee

OF ..... Andruw Jones

OF ..... Pat Burrell

OF ..... Dustan Mohr/ Willy Taveras/ JJ Davis

UT ..... Josh Phelps/ Rob Mackowiak

SP ..... Jason Schmidt

SP ..... Oliver Perez

SP ..... Freddy Garcia

SP ..... Bronson Arroyo

SP ..... Esteban Loaiza

SP ..... Wade Miller/ Bruce Chen

CL ..... Eric Gagne

CL ..... Mike Adams

CL ..... Greg Aquino Like the first 4 starters, not the rest. Pen nice. Burrell and Jones could drag avg down too much. It's up there easily....

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:08 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

nyunder...

rate me...please...

1B LaRoche

CI Thome

2B Loretta

MI Figgins

SS Matsui

3B Crede or Tracy

C Lo Duca; Pierzynski

OF Wells; A.Jones; Crawford; Sanders; Holliday;

SP R.Lopez; Eaton; Zito; Maddux; Milton;

Washburn; Benson

RP B.Wagner; Foulke

thanks. Nice team.... I see Figgins play all the time. Just a gut feeling, but I really see .238 this year out of him. I really think they got every ounce out of him last year and the P's will catch up a bit this year..

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:15 pm

KJ

Thanx...that's sorta what I get.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:19 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

NY and Big, take a look if you get a chance. Thx.

C ...... Johnny Estrada

C ...... Koyie Hill / Matt LeCroy

1B ..... Paul Konerko

3B/CI . Corey Koskie/Garret Atkins

2B ..... Placido Polanco/ Orlando Hudson

SS/MI . Carlos Guillen/ Khalil Greene

OF ..... Carl Crawford

OF ..... Carlos Lee

OF ..... Andruw Jones

OF ..... Pat Burrell

OF ..... Dustan Mohr/ Willy Taveras/ JJ Davis

UT ..... Josh Phelps/ Rob Mackowiak

SP ..... Jason Schmidt

SP ..... Oliver Perez

SP ..... Freddy Garcia

SP ..... Bronson Arroyo

SP ..... Esteban Loaiza

SP ..... Wade Miller/ Bruce Chen

CL ..... Eric Gagne

CL ..... Mike Adams

CL ..... Greg Aquino Like the first 4 starters, not the rest. Pen nice. Burrell and Jones could drag avg down too much. It's up there easily.... [/QUOTE]Thx, John,

I hope to find a 5th and 6th SP on the waiver wire if necessary. Chen had a nice late season run and has continued this Spring, if he keeps going he easily beats all projections, if not I dump him. Loiaza similar story in that the potential is there, I'll give him half-dozen starts to see how he looks.

Burrell and Jones the risk is definitely BA, but I have them bouncing back to hit around .280, which helps explain why I have Burrell on all 3 of my teams.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:20 pm

Originally posted by nydownunder:

KJ

Thanx...that's sorta what I get. How's my team look?

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:24 pm

RotoNot (Last Year's Champ)

Batting

9.8 13.3 8.3 7.3 7.7 46

Pitching

12.1 2.4 12.0 6.7 8.2 41

(8 SP & 1 RP)

But you know what, your draft last year wasn't much different and you won. Just goes to show us all this is just half the battle.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:25 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by nydownunder:

KJ

Thanx...that's sorta what I get. How's my team look? [/QUOTE]Last one for this evening...give me 5. I've got to go find you.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:27 pm

FYI -

Statistically, draft value last year showed 89% correlation to overall standings.

The last 11% - team management and waiver wire mgt - equals +/- 33 spots in the overall standings.

So ... a 3rd place team when drafted can be managed up a league winner or down to 5th place

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:35 pm

KJ

BATTING

8.8 3.9 7.7 7.4 11.7 40

(only 252 HR's)

PITCHING

8.1 15.0 7.1 13.7 13.3 57

Good Pitching combo.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:38 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

FYI -

Statistically, draft value last year showed 89% correlation to overall standings.

The last 11% - team management and waiver wire mgt - equals +/- 33 spots in the overall standings.

So ... a 3rd place team when drafted can be managed up a league winner or down to 5th place If I can add to this, the older and younger the players drafted, as well as injury impacted projections, the more dispersion probability (this all excludes injuries).

So technically, 50-66% have a chance.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:44 pm

Originally posted by nydownunder:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

FYI -

Statistically, draft value last year showed 89% correlation to overall standings.

The last 11% - team management and waiver wire mgt - equals +/- 33 spots in the overall standings.

So ... a 3rd place team when drafted can be managed up a league winner or down to 5th place If I can add to this, the older and younger the players drafted, as well as injury impacted projections, the more dispersion probability (this all excludes injuries).

So technically, 50-66% have a chance. [/QUOTE]I wouldn't disagree with that, injuries were included in my 89% correlation number.

Goggles Pisano · Post by **Goggles Pisano** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:08 pm

NY#5 Pick 13

Would appreciate comments on team Had 6th last year and took Prior vowed to myself I would not take 1 in 1s4 rounds

C Inge

C Molina

1b Casey

2b Soriano {1}

SS Young {3}

3b Blake

CI Phelps/Branyan

MI Everett

OF Cabrera [2}

OF Pods {4}

OF Burrell

OF Griffey

OF Ibanez

DH Dye Gathright

SP Beckett

SP Burnett

SP Halladay

SP Webb

SP Lowry

SP Loiaza

SP Capuano

SP Ishii

RP Cordero

RP Wickman

RP Worell

RP MacDougal

RP Riske

Think I have a good team weak at RP but thats why theres free agents plus Wagner is brittle

Hi MGBMarty

I was also in NY #5, Pick 6

I like your team and I think we both have a legit shot at the league title. It comes down to preferences, because you have a few players I don't care for like Griffey and Burrell but that does not mean they can't perform well, I just believe they won't.

Your top 4 starting pitchers are highly talented but all are risky and I would have to expect atleast one of them to be a huge disappointed due to injuries. Either keeping them off the field or hampering their performance on it. Your bottom 4 starters are crapshoots but the champ won last year with 4 solid guys up front and a few fill ins so it can be done. You are likely going to be down in saves because of Robinsons managing in Washington and Wickman's probability of holding onto his job, but atleast you have backups.

Overall, I feel your entire draft hinges on one player: Soriano. If he does not steal bases for you, as in '04, then your going to be hurtin. Believe me, I hope he works out for you but I myself was not willing to take the chance at #6. The 50 steals from Podsednik won't be enough to carry you if Soriano gets 15.

Here is my squad for you to pick apart

Hope to get your feedback soon and Best of Luck

C Estrada

C Santiago

C C. Snyder

1b Konerko

2b Bellhorn/Polonco

SS Feliz

3b Eric Chavez

CI Giambi/McPherson/E. Alfonso

MI Izturis

OF H. Matsui

OF Pierre

OF Stewart

OF Bigbie

OF B. Clark

OF White

OF Werth

UT Choi

SP R. Johnson

SP Oliver Perez

SP Clemens

SP Vazquez

SP Penny

SP Morris

RP Ryan

RP Guardado

RP Juan Cruz

RP Brandon League

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:53 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

nyunder...

rate me...please...

1B LaRoche

CI Thome

2B Loretta

MI Figgins

SS Matsui

3B Crede or Tracy

C Lo Duca; Pierzynski

OF Wells; A.Jones; Crawford; Sanders; Holliday;

SP R.Lopez; Eaton; Zito; Maddux; Milton;

Washburn; Benson

RP B.Wagner; Foulke

thanks. Nice team.... I see Figgins play all the time. Just a gut feeling, but I really see .238 this year out of him. I really think they got every ounce out of him last year and the P's will catch up a bit this year.. [/QUOTE]UFS, I got Figgins in my league so I'm a little biased, but .238? Come on. He was up in 2003 for 240 AB's and hit .296 w/ 16% k rate. Had 577 ab's last year and hit .296 with 16% k rate. Looks pretty consistent to me. I think if P's were going to figure him out, they would have done it last year. Even if he drops to .270 I'll still take the 40 sb's and 100 runs.

ryansgang · Post by **ryansgang** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:04 pm

hey guys league 6 pick 10 new york league please rate my team.c-r hernandez-benji molina 1b-helton-2b-reyes-3b-wright-ss-lugo-mi-izturis-ci-erstad-of-matsui-sosa-crisp-griffey-matos-sp-schilling-lowry-wolf-haren-j-williams-glavine-ponson-v zambrano.thanks guys.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:11 pm

SP Halladay (#4)

SP Bonderman (#9)

SP Escobar (#11)

SP Thomson (#13)

SP Benson (#14)

SP Weaver (#15)

SP Byrd

SP Robertson

Wow, if nydownunder plans to be in the top 3rd with that pitching his system must be amazing!

ryansgang · Post by **ryansgang** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:15 pm

heys i forgot my relief pitchers they are isringhausen and kolb.

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:08 pm

Here are the Fightin Amish:

C - Lo Duca, Santiago

1B - Pujols

2B - Loretta

SS - Guillen

3B - Mora

MI - Roberts

CI - Casey

DH - Pena

OF - Huff

OF - Bay

OF - Alou

OF - J. Jones

OF - C. Floyd

Bench - C. Monroe, Lofton, Rivas, Mackowiak

SP - Radke

SP - Buerhle

SP - Lopez

SP - Lee

SP - Robertson

RP - Lidge

RP - Hawkins

RP - Linbrink

RP - Madsen

Bench : Riske, Contreras, Mateo

Need to play with the numbers, if Lofton is starting regularly, he will fit into lineup for much need SB's.

seefer · Post by **seefer** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:30 pm

Geesh, so much concern here. Truthfully this is alot of fun but don't take too much out of the projections.

This thing will be won with the 2005 versions of last years Beltre, Mora, D. Ortiz, Peavy, Pavano, Olly Perez, J. Wright, Lidge, Nathan, Loretta, etc.

It will not be won with 2005 versions of last years Prior, Garciaparra, Halladay, Giambi, Piazza, Beckett, Prest. Wilson, L. Gonzalez, etc.

As long as you have a solid base set, you have a good chance at winning this thing.

Last year the pitchers I drafted were: Gagne, B. Wagner, D. Riske (ouch), C. Zambrano, Byun Kim (ouch), Ryan Franklin (are you kidding me), Edwin Jax (ouch), Jake Peavy (stud), Suppan, and Brian Lawrence. ---Not real impressive by any standards.

I ended the season in 2nd overall and with the #1 pitching staff overall.

The game has just begun my friends.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:35 pm

Originally posted by seefer:

The game has just begun my friends.

seefer...sorry i missed you at the draft. you guys were done too early.