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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:09 am

The 2011 baseball season is officially underway for me!! I have the Bill James Handbook in my hands and I'm ready to go. I have all of last year's stats in one binding and all of 2011's projections!! :D



Steve Moyer and his gang at Baseball Info Solutions do a great, great job with this book each year and it's a dandy once again. Check it out online and order it if you haven't already. You won't be disappointed. Games played are also there and available to help you prepare for 2011 NFBC.



Anyway, I quickly scanned the projections during the AFL Symposium and came up with a few interesting observations. I'll add to this list as I have time, but here were a few that stand out. If you have any players you want me to look up, post on this thread. Oh, and let me know what you think of these:



Michael Brantley: .268-5-46-32, 81 runs



Domonic Brown: .288-26-94-28, 84 runs. Joe Sheehan also said he'd take the over on 18 HRs and 85 RBIs. Interesting.



Lorenzo Cain: .279-5-46-33-75



Jacoby Ellsbury: .300-8-58-59-102



Desmond Jennings: .280-6-50-54-92



Ryan Kalish: .271-20-82-43-94



Matt Kemp: .280-27-95-24-98



Eric Young Jr.: 259-3-25-46-69



Brandon Allen: .251-24-78-14-72



Chris Carter: .251-24-79-4-78



Tyler Colvin: .259-24-75-9-76



Adam Lind: .281-26-92-1-72



Michael Moustakas: .297-26-98-2-74



Mike Stanton: .268-38-104-5-85



Thoughts?



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Post by Raskol » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:48 am

Bill must see an injury or trade in Boston for both Ells and Kalish to get that much playing time. Maybe Nancy Drew will finally retire.
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Post by Head 2 Head » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:30 pm

Originally posted by Raskol:

Bill must see an injury or trade in Boston for both Ells and Kalish to get that much playing time. Maybe Nancy Drew will finally retire. Bill James put together some great stuff years ago but it is my understanding that he doesn't do any of these projections as Baseball Solutions just brands his name to sell books, and it works.

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Post by Juan LYB » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:42 pm

haha, Looks like Greg went through it twice, alphabetically. Interesting takes on some of the young talent...I'll take the over on Brantley(BA) and the under on Stanton's HR's... Not sure that Dominic Brown will hit those numbers either. Nice park and nice lineup. Guess I'll miss him in DLs next year.

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Post by Juan LYB » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:46 pm

I have a friend who is a RedSox fanatic. He loves Kalish. He's usually right on guys as he's helped me more than once with picking Boston players...However, my eyes didn't see 40 SB potential. Maybe I'll call it a homer pick for James?

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:39 am

Originally posted by Raskol:

Bill must see an injury or trade in Boston for both Ells and Kalish to get that much playing time. Maybe Nancy Drew will finally retire. Bill should know more than us and I have to believe he had a say in this projection. There are some in the Boston area who believe Ellsbury will get traded this off-season. We'll have to wait and see, but you are correct something has to open up in the outfield for Kalish to get these numbers.



I don't agree with H2H that Bill James isn't involved with the projections. I believe he does work with Steve's group at Baseball Info Solutions on some of this. He's not just a name on this book.
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Post by Raskol » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:47 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Raskol:

Bill must see an injury or trade in Boston for both Ells and Kalish to get that much playing time. Maybe Nancy Drew will finally retire. Bill should know more than us and I have to believe he had a say in this projection. There are some in the Boston area who believe Ellsbury will get traded this off-season. We'll have to wait and see, but you are correct something has to open up in the outfield for Kalish to get these numbers.



I don't agree with H2H that Bill James isn't involved with the projections. I believe he does work with Steve's group at Baseball Info Solutions on some of this. He's not just a name on this book.
[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I think Kalish is a real talent and I hope he does get the opportunity to show what he can do. After Jacoby never really returned following his collision with Beltre (remember that Beltre put two outfielders on the DL last year!), I and many other Sox fans have begun to question his toughness. Understand that I don't have broken ribs and have never played professional baseball, but I have seen athletes compete at a high level while bleeding, with broken bones, with the flu, while grieving, you name it. Jacoby just didn't step up when his team needed him.



Anyway, here is an article I wrote about him in August after his call-up (apologies in advance for the tables not lining up well):



This week we’ll take a look at Ryan Kalish, who, thanks to a rash of injuries, has the opportunity to claim a spot in the Boston Outfield for the rest of the 2010 season and perhaps beyond. If you are in need of Outfield help for the stretch run, then you should consider adding him.

Boston entered this season with two options in Center, Jacoby Ellsbury and Mike Cameron, but neither has been able to stay on the field on a consistent basis. Now that both players are likely out for the remainder of the 2010 season, Kalish will see a substantial amount of playing time. According to Manager Terry Francona, “we want to see him play center. We've got some decisions to make coming up here about who plays, when they play, where. We were kind of looking for a chance to put this kid in center. If he can handle this like we think he can, [he's] got a good chance to make us a little bit better." Seldom do big-market teams hand over a starting job in explicit terms, especially to a player who is only 22 years-old, but Francona’s comments suggest that Kalish is being looked at as a long-term player, not just a fill-in for injured veterans.

A look at Kalish’s Minor League numbers tells us why Boston has been willing to give Kalish this opportunity:

Year/Age Lge AB HR RBI R SB AVG

2007/19 Low A 87 3 13 27 18 .368

2008/20 A 73 2 14 6 1 .233

2008/20 A 360 3 32 51 18 .281

2009/21 A 115 5 21 21 7 .304

2009/21 AA 391 13 56 63 14 .271

2010/22 AA 150 8 29 35 12 .293

2010/22 AAA 143 5 18 22 12 .294



While there isn’t one statistic that jumps out in the above table, there are several that, when taken together, tell the story of a player with emerging power, good speed and the potential for an excellent AVG. His 2009 season split between A and AA ball saw him tally 18 HR and 21 SB and in 2010 he collected 13 HR and 24 SB (in fewer AB) prior to his promotion.

In Fantasy Baseball, owners love players who have the ability to go 20/20 (HR/SB). In real-life baseball, these counting stats, while still valuable, aren’t as prized as some other statistics, particularly for those teams that favor statistical analysis like the Red Sox. This is where Kalish shines brightest:

Year/Age BB% OBP SLG SB%

2007/19 15.4 .471 .540 86

2008/20 12.6 .376 .356 82

2008/20 9.8 .305 .397 100

2009/21 18.2 .434 .513 70

2009/21 9.6 .341 .440 82

2010/22 15.3 .404 .527 92

2010/22 8.8 .356 .476 86



It appears that Kalish struggles after his promotions from one level to another. At the end of 2008, he was promoted to High-A ball and saw his numbers decline; in 2009 he began the season there and was very effective. Similarly, he was promoted to AA ball in 2009 and encountered difficulty but was able to make the necessary adjustments as 2010 began. His performance in AAA in 2010 continues this pattern of initially struggling as the quality of the opposing pitching improved. Overall, Kalish has demonstrated a remarkable ability to take Walks, get on base and use his speed very effectively---all tools prized by the Red Sox organization.

Where does this leave Kalish for 2010 and beyond? For the rest of this season, he should see regular playing time since Boston has few other options. His performance thus far (.239 AVG, 2 HR, 1 SB in 67 AB) is far from stellar, but remember that his Minor League career suggests that he goes through an acclimation period after each promotion, so better numbers are on the way. For 2011, Ellsbury, JD Drew and Cameron are all under contract but none of them can be counted on to play a full season due to age (Cameron), injury history (Drew) or potential frailty (Ellsbury). Ellsbury could be moved to Left Field, leaving a more durable Kalish to patrol Center, with Drew in Right Field and Cameron likely to play whenever either is injured or needs a day off. While Kalish does not have the blazing speed of Ellsbury, he is more selective at the plate, and could well see himself batting at the top of the lineup in 2011, making him well worth the investment now if you are in a Keeper or Dynasty league.
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Post by headhunters » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:20 am

but where do crawford and werth play?

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Post by ToddZ » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:31 am

A few things to keep in mind about the Bill James Handbook:



It is not designed for fantasy, though it has some info that can be utilized in our analysis.



The projections, especially, are not intended for a fantasy audience. They are very, very objective, using translations and regressions without much (if any) tweaking. And the playing time is not at all designed for fantasy. The focus is on the player and not the global sense in a team or league-wise manner. So I "read" it more as if Kalish gets "X" at bats, this is what James thinks he will do based on his past history and how others have done with similar history. And not so much James expects Kalish to get that many at bats.



James is more than a figurehead for the book as he has creative input and contributes some other sections like probability players reach 300 wins, 3000 hits, 500/600/700 HR, etc.
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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:47 am

I love the Bill James Handbook. Todd's right, if you're using it for fantasy use, you're barking up the wrong tree.



His projections are like the 'National Enquirer' during the wild west days.

If you're young and fast on the draw, the Handbook is there to make the legend larger than life before really proving themseves against the best.

Laugh at the projections, enjoy the book.
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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:43 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I love the Bill James Handbook. Todd's right, if you're using it for fantasy use, you're barking up the wrong tree.



His projections are like the 'National Enquirer' during the wild west days.

If you're young and fast on the draw, the Handbook is there to make the legend larger than life before really proving themseves against the best.

Laugh at the projections, enjoy the book. Todd is exactly right and the Bill James Handbook is based on a player's skill and here's what James thinks he would hit if he got 550 at-bats and regular playing time. I'm not listing certain players because I think he has them projected too high, I'm listing them because I think James has identified about 12 players who he thinks could be superstars with regular playing time. I love his insights there.



There's no guarantee that Kalish or Jennings will get the required at-bats to put up those numbers in 2011, but the fact that Bill James thinks they are talented enough to do that is worth the time I'm going to take to look at these players more closely. Again, I love those projections and they are starting point for me, nothing more.



I'd love to hear from others to see if they think some of these kids have the skills to put up these type of projected numbers. Surely some have stronger opinions than I do about Jennings and the others.



I don't see as many pitchers that stand out, but I'll look again and post those projections if they warrant it.
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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:37 am

I tried to find some starting pitchers from the Bill James Handbook who stood out among his projections, but nothing really hit me. He doesn't predict any starting pitcher for more than 18 wins, which I thought was interesting, as CC Sabathia leads the way with 18. But that's okay.



I thought it was interesting that he projected Javier Vazquez to go 13-9 with a 3.73 ERA and 183 Ks in 30 starts. He must expect him to return to the NL.



Carlos Zambrano is projected to go 14-11 with a 3.67 ERA and 188 Ks in 33 starts. Could happen, I guess.



Gio Gonzalez is projected for 212 strikeouts, a 13-10 record and a 3.99 ERA.



As for closers, he sticks with Jonathan Broxton: 33 saves, 2.70 ERA, 77 Ks in 60 IP.



Hey, in Atlanta, Craig Kimbrel could get 25 saves with a 2.57 ERA and 100 Ks in 63 IP. WOW.



He also expects Joe Nathan to rebound, going 6-1 with 34 saves and a 1.99 ERA with 82 Ks in 68 IP.



All kind of interesting.
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Post by headhunters » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:50 am

in looking at bill james projections the last few years, i get the "at bats " part. what i don't agree with (or maybe i am missing something) are the ridiculous numbers EVERY decent rookie is expected to produce with those at bats. From chris davis to brown to stanton to kalish. I can't believe any stat head would look at those wild projections for rookies and not totally disagree. It looks to me that james just says- "hey he did it in triple A and 200 ab's in the majors so i add the 2 up and that is what he will do with 600 ab's in the majors". I think that is what mle's are all about. Most rookies don't produce right away like they did in the minors. it just seems that when you look at all the players with a few years of experience- his projections seem very reasonable. the rookie hitters- not so much; and it isn't "at bat" driven. It is performance driven.

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Post by Thunder » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:49 am

IMO, the BJ handbook is the first bound publication that simply gets the juices flowing and the process started. it's for the BB junkies that can't get enough of a good thing. take the projections for what they're worth, and adjust as we go through the winter, spring training, and on towards opening day. the forecaster will be out in about 4 weeks, then we'll officially be rockin' and rollin' and getting ready for that first "slo draft".
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Post by rkulaski » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:14 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

IMO, the BJ handbook is the first bound publication that simply gets the juices flowing and the process started. it's for the BB junkies that can't get enough of a good thing. take the projections for what they're worth, and adjust as we go through the winter, spring training, and on towards opening day. the forecaster will be out in about 4 weeks, then we'll officially be rockin' and rollin' and getting ready for that first "slo draft". first slow draft?? they'll be about 15 of us who will be on their 3rd! or if dan has his way, their 4th or 5th.
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