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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:44 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:Another Met, Mike Piazza is eligible next year alongside Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, and Schilling.
Is he a first ballot Hall of Famer?
Or does he get lost in the controversy that the others will stir up?
Doughy, I gotta believe Piazza's a lock as a first ballot Hall of Famer. I personally don't believe he was on PED's. First off if he were juicing, wouldn't he have had a stronger throwing arm? Secondly if on the juice, wouldn't he have countered Clemens' roid rage during the World Series with his own and shoved that broken bat up Clemens' ummmm, well you get the point. :)

I think the only question is whether the Hall does the right thing and allow Piazza to go in as a Met or do they instead criminally cast his Hall of Fame bust with the cap of their choice instead of his as they unfairly did to Gary Carter. In fact I believe all those players you and I listed previously would be wearing Mets caps in Cooperstown if given the choice. :D

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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:55 pm

You never fail to bring a smile to my face.
Yep, in a perfect world, Piazza gets the nod. But man, if anything isn't perfect, it's the Hall of Fame voters.
Next year looks tough to you and I. It has to look like a cluster to them. :)
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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:26 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:You never fail to bring a smile to my face.
Yep, in a perfect world, Piazza gets the nod. But man, if anything isn't perfect, it's the Hall of Fame voters.
Next year looks tough to you and I. It has to look like a cluster to them. :)
Next year is going to be tough for the voters. However, I really hope they make a statement with their votes. I truly hope that Bonds, Clemens, and Sosa not only don't get in, but also fall well short of the votes necessary for induction, similar to the support, or lack thereof, shown McGwire and Palmeiro. I take to heart what the abusers did to my game and the records that were part of what made it great. The steroids era took a century of magical history and numbers and threw it all out of whack. They took iconic numbers like 755, 61, 50, 500, 600, 3 MVP's, 4 Cy Youngs, etc. etc. and made them less sacred, less mythical. Now the records all feel similar to football records, just numbers, no magic. To me that's the crime they committed. To me they deserve to be punished for it. I hope they never get in.

I've collected a few pieces of memorabilia over the years. One piece is an autographed lithograph of the living 500 home run hitters at the time of the signing back in the late '80's. At the time there were only 11 living members. It meant something. The feat was considered special. How many are there now? Who knows? Who cares?

I still love the piece however as the 11 were special ballplayers, some of the greatest who ever played. They deserve their place in the Hall. They deserve better than to have their accomplishments minimized by those who cheated. Below obviously isn't the exact piece hanging on the wall of my man-cave, but is one of the same series. It remains one of my favorites.

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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by rockitsauce » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:09 pm

Glenneration X wrote:
I still love the piece however as the 11 were special ballplayers, some of the greatest who ever played. They deserve their place in the Hall. They deserve better than to have their accomplishments minimized by those who cheated. Below obviously isn't the exact piece hanging on the wall of my man-cave, but is one of the same series. It remains one of my favorites.

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hmmm, no Mets :lol: I do see the greatest 3B in history wearing his Phillie uniform :mrgreen:

Reggie should have on a Yankees uni too!
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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:34 pm

rockitsauce wrote: hmmm, no Mets :lol: I do see the greatest 3B in history wearing his Phillie uniform :mrgreen:

Reggie should have on a Yankees uni too!
David Wright hasn't hit his 500th yet. ;)

As far as Reggie wearing his A's uni, I think Ron Lewis was going for a little variety in his portrait. Mantle was already representing the Yankees and Reggie certainly isn't miscast as an Athletic as his time in Oakland was just as memorable as his time with the Bombers. If you notice, for the players that Lewis had no choice but to portray as teammates, Mays and McCovey, Aaron and Matthews, he chose different jerseys for each. Plus that green and yellow Oakland uniform sure adds a bit of ummmmmm, color to the rendering. Still, not as much as Schmidt's very pretty powder blue and magenta dress. :shock:

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Post by NorCalAtlFan » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:22 pm

love your Mutts fandom Glenn. i expect your enthusiasm to continue even after this impending 100 loss season. that's to be commended.

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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by rockitsauce » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:49 pm

Glenneration X wrote:
Plus that green and yellow Oakland uniform sure adds a bit of ummmmmm, color to the rendering. Still, not as much as Schmidt's very pretty powder blue and magenta dress. :shock:


I see you neglected to mention that the Killer's uni color was awfully similar to Michael Jack's!

David Wright might.....might get to 300 now that they've moved the fences in, but just to make sure perhaps he should give Ryan Braun a call :mrgreen:

Another reason the Mets are the worst franchise in all pro sports - trying to stop R.A. Dickey from climbing Mt. Kilamanjaro and in the process raise $ & awareness for such a worthy cause (stopping human trafficking aka modern day slavery). He's the only Met worth a damn in my book :!: Plus he's a fan of LOTR :D

* btw, what the heck do I hafta do NOT to have that stupid border surrounding images. I need your guidance you computer wizard you!
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rockitsauce wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:
Plus that green and yellow Oakland uniform sure adds a bit of ummmmmm, color to the rendering. Still, not as much as Schmidt's very pretty powder blue and magenta dress. :shock:


I see you neglected to mention that the Killer's uni color was awfully similar to Michael Jack's!

David Wright might.....might get to 300 now that they've moved the fences in, but just to make sure perhaps he should give Ryan Braun a call :mrgreen:

Another reason the Mets are the worst franchise in all pro sports - trying to stop R.A. Dickey from climbing Mt. Kilamanjaro and in the process raise $ & awareness for such a worthy cause (stopping human trafficking aka modern day slavery). He's the only Met worth a damn in my book :!: Plus he's a fan of LOTR :D

* btw, what the heck do I hafta do NOT to have that stupid border surrounding images. I need your guidance you computer wizard you!
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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:25 am

72 Days 'til the NFBC and our next chance to achieve that one fantasy moment for which we'll always be remembered before we ride off into the sunset.

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The Carlton Fisk World Series game was recently named by the MLB Channel as the greatest of the last 50 years. The 1975 World Series itself is considered by many as the greatest ever. For me, it is.

I've been lucky enough to get to watch several incredible World Series in my lifetime, last year's epic Cards-Rangers Series among them. Others that have been indelibly etched in my mind's eye are the Twins-Braves 1991 thriller that included the Jack Morris 7th game 10-inning shutout, the 2001 Series where the Diamondbacks ended the Yankees 4-year run in a Series that featured a pair of Yankees 9th inning game-tying home runs before Luis Gonzales capped a Diamondback's comeback of their own over Mariano in Game 7, and of course the Mets return to dominance in 1986 over the Red Sox with a little help from Billy Buckner.

Like the 1975 Topps were my first baseball cards, 1975 was my first World Series, at least the first that I can remember watching. I remember staying up late to watch every exciting game, well past my bedtime, TV on in my room, volume low so my parents wouldn't hear that I was still up. I remember being in the schoolyard each following day and all the other 3rd graders talking about the Series, what they saw the previous night, and who they were rooting for. I was rooting for the Red Sox. Not because of the curse, or Yaz, or many of the other reasons most of the country rooted for the Red Sox. I rooted for them because my father did. He always liked the Sox, probably because as a Brooklyn Dodgers and then Mets fan, he'd root against the Yankees. I'm guessing the Red Sox helped him achieve that. The Sox obviously didn't pull it out, but the Series remains one that I'll always cherish.

What further cements the 1975 World Series as the greatest for me is that at my young age at the time, I knew little of the history and backround to the Series that helped create the great anticipation for it and great memories of it that it did for others. Hype meant nothing to me. As an 8-year old, I had no knowledge of the Red Sox curse, nor had the context for which to understand that the Big Red Machine was one of the greatest lineups in history, and was too young to realize that baseball was fading as America's pastime and that this great World Series helped restore baseball's status as America's greatest sport. All I knew is that I was watching incredible and exciting baseball and that I loved it. I was hooked for life. Topps and the 1975 World Series. I haven't looked back since.

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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Edwards Kings » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:41 am

rockitsauce wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:
I still love the piece however as the 11 were special ballplayers, some of the greatest who ever played. They deserve their place in the Hall. They deserve better than to have their accomplishments minimized by those who cheated. Below obviously isn't the exact piece hanging on the wall of my man-cave, but is one of the same series. It remains one of my favorites.

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hmmm, no Mets :lol: I do see the greatest 3B in history wearing his Phillie uniform :mrgreen:

Reggie should have on a Yankees uni too!
Eddie Mathews is not wearing a Phillie uniform? ;)
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Post by rockitsauce » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:59 pm

Edwards Kings wrote:
rockitsauce wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:
I still love the piece however as the 11 were special ballplayers, some of the greatest who ever played. They deserve their place in the Hall. They deserve better than to have their accomplishments minimized by those who cheated. Below obviously isn't the exact piece hanging on the wall of my man-cave, but is one of the same series. It remains one of my favorites.

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hmmm, no Mets :lol: I do see the greatest 3B in history wearing his Phillie uniform :mrgreen:

Reggie should have on a Yankees uni too!
Eddie Mathews is not wearing a Phillie uniform? ;)
Thats good Wayne, and I KNEW it was coming! Thats why I didn't just say greatest 3B cuz I knew Matthews was in there too...and if anyone was gonna point that out :lol: ;)

Just like Glenn, as a kid I memorized the HR totals of the great players. There was a time I knew every player who hit over 300 HR's...Al Kaline is King of that club w/ 399 (no I didn't look it up and if I'm wrong this will be embarrassing, but I'd like to think my memory is still ok). As far as the guys in that pic I don't think I can match up their HR totals w/ each player (w/ no internet help :geek: ) but I'll try.

Williams - 521
Robinson - 520
Killer - 573
Reggie 563
Mickey 556
Mays 660
Aaron 755
Schmitty 548
Ernie 510
Matthews 547
McCovey 521

For some reason Mel Ott & his 511 HR's is stuck in my head too...course he wasn't around for the pic :mrgreen:
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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Roy's Outlaws » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:46 am

Mantle total H. R.s was 536.the rest look good to me.

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Post by Glenneration X » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 am

71 Days 'til Greg and Tom step to the podium and announce the start of the 2012 drafts and auctions that will make up our NFBC. They'll then hand them over to the facilitators who will run each draft and auction and announce the play by play of our bidding and draft picks.

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Sure, there may not be any eye candy in referee outfits helping run our drafts (except in St. Louis from what I read ;) ). Still, we may be better off. Our facilitators are typically experienced and knowledgeable, are oftentimes fellow fantasy players like Greg or Tom, Charlie Wiegert, Todd Zola, or our bud Andy Saxton (a great guy even though cursed with Philly fandom :lol: ), and do a great job keeping our drafts and auctions moving at a nice and fair pace.
Who needs eye candy in referee outfits anyway?

Ummm, errrr....then again on second thought.... :o :shock: :mrgreen:


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Post by Edwards Kings » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:29 am

Glad I took the bait! :D

Loved Mathews and when I got him to sign an 8x10, I chose the one below. Not a cleaned-up in a fresh uniform trying to look like a movie star but just after a work out. Just the kind of "dirt" player he was!!!!

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Post by rockitsauce » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:28 am

Roy's Outlaws wrote:Mantle total H. R.s was 536.the rest look good to me.
Hey Ice Cream, I'm guessing you were a fan of the Commerce Comet (like I was Schmidt) and therefore have that 536 burned in ur brain like I do Schmitty's 548. However the Mick's HR total is not the only one I got wrong. I was real close on Mr. Cub. I wrote 510, he actually had 512, which is the same # as Eddie Matthews (whom I had down for 547). My last error was a doozy, Frank Robinson. I had him down for 520, add Sammy Sosa's greatest season and you get the Judge's true final tally, 586. All in all, not too bad for a guy over 40 :o

Speaking of Sosa, when I went to Baseball Ref dot com to check the real #'s it has his ht & wt at 6'0 and 165 lbs :shock: I know thats when he entered the lge, but holy cripes man, he had to weigh 230 during that '98 season. I never knew creatine was such a good supplement :lol: He also shares a birthday w/ one of the all time greats - Neil Young
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Post by Roy's Outlaws » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 am

yup i have always had 3 numbers burned in my head from when i was a kid. Ruth 714 Mays 660 Mantle 536. that when 500 HR meant something special. I only saw the end of Mantle playing days, but was a big fan of him and Seaver.

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Post by Glenneration X » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:37 am

70 Days 'til our next chance to cash in the NFBC.

Simple arithmetic says that the odds to cash in an NFBC league is 1 out of 5, to win an NFBC league 1 of 15, to cash in the Main Event Overall 1 out of 39, and to win the Overall 1 of 390. Though the odds look tough, Gekko's 13 cashes in 14 leagues during his phenomenal 2010 season, Shawn Childs' 4 top 5 Overall finishes in the NFBC's 1st 6 seasons, and Lindy's 2 Overall championships in the last 3 years shows that if you've got the goods and bring it, you can buck those odds.

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So bring it, try to beat the odds, and don't worry about failure. Competing in the NFBC and doing your best against the best could never be considered failing, even if you come up a little short. The only fail would be not competing at all. ;)


Now if you want to see true examples of Fail in baseball......

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...and then of course....Ouch! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Post by Glenneration X » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:29 am

69 Days 'til the NFBC gives us our next chance to pull off a "Miracle", do something truly "Amazing", and be World Champions of the Fantasy World.

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I wish I knew how the hell Jupinka guessed that I would be going with this theme for this number anyway??? :shock: :D ;)

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Post by Glenneration X » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:47 am

68 Days 'til the pitching side of our live draft and auction strategies start being implemented. As we all know, pitching is half the game.

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Will we focus on wins and counting stats?

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Or will we concentrate more on the ratios?

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Or will we simply draft a dominating nearly unhittable staff anchor as early as possible hoping to achieve complete utter dominance across all the pitching categories? :) ;) 68 Days 'til we have to decide.

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Post by Thunder » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:55 am

GREAT job with this thread Glenn. Seeing pictures of Gibson and McLain almost brought chills down my spine. I was in junior High School and we had just moved to western Kentucky. This being Cardinal country, I guarantee I was the ONLY kid in the whole school pulling for the Tigers in the WS. Lolich didn't let me down. 8-)
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Post by Glenneration X » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:09 pm

Thunder wrote:GREAT job with this thread Glenn. Seeing pictures of Gibson and McLain almost brought chills down my spine. I was in junior High School and we had just moved to western Kentucky. This being Cardinal country, I guarantee I was the ONLY kid in the whole school pulling for the Tigers in the WS. Lolich didn't let me down. 8-)
Thanks Bill, but no chills from the shot of Seaver???? :o

I see you're headed to NYC for the live drafts this year Bud. Sure, the one year I'm headed out west. Still, you'll have a blast. The NYC crew is a fun one. Maybe we'll catch up football season.

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Post by Thunder » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:00 pm

Glenneration X wrote:
Thunder wrote:GREAT job with this thread Glenn. Seeing pictures of Gibson and McLain almost brought chills down my spine. I was in junior High School and we had just moved to western Kentucky. This being Cardinal country, I guarantee I was the ONLY kid in the whole school pulling for the Tigers in the WS. Lolich didn't let me down. 8-)
Thanks Bill, but no chills from the shot of Seaver???? :o

I see you're headed to NYC for the live drafts this year Bud. Sure, the one year I'm headed out west. Still, you'll have a blast. The NYC crew is a fun one. Maybe we'll catch up football season.
Yeah, wife and I are headed up to NYC for 4-5 days. I'm just doing the $1300 auction. We're going to try and enjoy the city the rest of the time. My best memories of Seaver? He was a Red. :D

BTW, see you in "Trendsetters". :o
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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:48 pm

Thunder wrote:
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Thunder wrote:GREAT job with this thread Glenn. Seeing pictures of Gibson and McLain almost brought chills down my spine. I was in junior High School and we had just moved to western Kentucky. This being Cardinal country, I guarantee I was the ONLY kid in the whole school pulling for the Tigers in the WS. Lolich didn't let me down. 8-)
Thanks Bill, but no chills from the shot of Seaver???? :o

I see you're headed to NYC for the live drafts this year Bud. Sure, the one year I'm headed out west. Still, you'll have a blast. The NYC crew is a fun one. Maybe we'll catch up football season.
Yeah, wife and I are headed up to NYC for 4-5 days. I'm just doing the $1300 auction. We're going to try and enjoy the city the rest of the time. My best memories of Seaver? He was a Red. :D

BTW, see you in "Trendsetters". :o
Yeah, looking forward to it. I really enjoy that draft each season. Hopefully I draft better in that league than I did in my Playoff Challenges. I bet on Brees everywhere. What a death blow.

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Re: Countdown to the NFBC

Post by Glenneration X » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:55 am

Only 67 Days left to secure your seats for the NFBC live drafts and auctions.

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Though drafting online is still great, like being at the ballpark, nothing beats drafting live at an NFBC event. There's just no comparison between being right there versus being remote.

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There's a couple other things you can sometimes see while being live at an event that also help make it more enjoyable and that you'd definately rather see in person. :)

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Post by MadCow Sez » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:48 am

I didn't realize there were mountains in LA..... ;)
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