NFBC Rules Changes Discussion For 2013

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Re: NFBC Rules Changes Discussion For 2013

Post by Edwards Kings » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:07 am

Off what the topic has been, but food for thought. Well, leftover food as we certainly have discussed this before and I admit I have not read this entire thread.

At the end of the supplemental draft, a one-round minor leaguer draft. The players selected would have to eligable for ROY, which means limited major league AB/IP in prior seasons. Should the minor leaguer be promoted to the majors, then that player would have to be included on the 30-man roster for at least one FA period (Monday thru Sunday) after his promotion. A player on the pre-existing 30-man roster would have to be dropped to accomodate the new addition. After promotion of the drafted minor leaguer, no other minor leaguer could be added to fill the minor league roster spot.

I cannot comment on what administratively STATS!, Greg, Tom and IT-team would have to do for this to occur. However, with the increase (at least as it seems to me) of younger players spending less and less time in the minors (such as being promoted from AA, etc.), it would seem to reflect a trend in baseball and add another layer of strategy to this pro event.

The argument could always be made that if you wanted to use one of you reserve roster spots to do this, you can and that is certainly true.
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Re: NFBC Rules Changes Discussion For 2013

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:02 am

Scared $ Dont Make $ wrote:
Likewhat17 wrote:
Scared $ Dont Make $ wrote:
But is that any different than what you are allowed to do with hitters????

Greg,

I just don't believe it is fair to open up hitters to be swapped on Fridays but restrict pitchers when there is a pretty solid option in place that would not in any way ruin the integrity of the game or the rules.

We introduced Friday roster moves for BOTH hitting and pitching initially. Then removed Pitchers because of a flaw. So why not use a better method now that one is out there.

I will gladly work with others such as KJ to define SET business rules to prevent any loopholes and deliver it to you so you can get IT to implement it.

People are not saying anything about the pitching because they saw a flawed system last year so it left a bad taste in there mouth. If this newer method was the original idea, people would be all for it.

I say use common sense and treat hitting and pitching equal.

The easy way is to do nothing, but now you treat hitting that has 5 categories differently than pitching that has 5 categories.

And please don't give me the excuse that a hitter with 12 ABs is WAY more important that a pitcher with 7 IP... cause that is bogus. Its ALL relevant.
JT, yes, we are treating hitters and pitchers differently with this Friday DL rule. The whole concept of adding a late week DL rule was to take some of the luck out of this game. We all know how teams hold back injury reports after the weekend and suddenly on Tuesday morning a player lands on the DL that we thought was day-to-day. More times than not, it's a hitter who is in that scenario. Our goal was to minimize the damage of early week injuries by allowing a Friday change to your lineup so that if you have a strong bench it still gives you a shot at three days of production. This serves to help minimize the damage, as I've said, and to make owners cognizant of how their 7-man reserve can win a title for them.

There is no simple solution here for pitchers unless we want to make streaming pitchers part of the game, and we don't think that improves the game. There might be some ways to make a late-week change to pitchers relevant, but I'm not sure it helps the game or makes it more appealing or easy-to-understand for our participants. We are all in the same boat when it comes to pitchers and if we leave the rule as is then we all may lose a start from time to time, but it's part of the game we have to deal with. I just don't see an easy solution here when it comes to pitchers and making the game better.

I thought last year went well with the rule as is. The confusing posts here by some of our most dedicated owners proves to me that there is no easy solution. We can continue to talk about this, but I'm not seeing the consensus here.
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Re: NFBC Rules Changes Discussion For 2013

Post by Hells Satans » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:00 pm

The closer you get to streaming, the less I will play and the less I will spend. This is the only thing I am 100% sure of.

Adding/changing rules that allow for subtle forms of manipulation of your pitching staff aren't streaming, but they move the needle closer. I'm vehemently opposed to any such changes.

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Re: NFBC Rules Changes Discussion For 2013

Post by Outlaw » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:49 pm

Hells Satans wrote:The closer you get to streaming, the less I will play and the less I will spend. This is the only thing I am 100% sure of.

Adding/changing rules that allow for subtle forms of manipulation of your pitching staff aren't streaming, but they move the needle closer. I'm vehemently opposed to any such changes.

Agreed...

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