Rate your Draft, Quest for $100,000

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:47 am

Originally posted by LB Big Richards:

nydownunder, here's my roster again. Feel free to substitute any bench guys who have higher projections than starters. Thanks.

C - Hall (24)

C - Snyder (30)

1B - Dmitri Young (12)

2B - Boone (7)

3B - Beltre (2)

SS - Lugo (14)

CI - Palmeiro (16)

MI - Feliz (13)

DH - Juan Gone (19)

OF - Abreu (1)

OF - Pierre (3)

OF - C. Lee (4)

OF - Mench (11)

OF - Monroe (21)

SP - Clemens (5)

SP - Clement (8)

SP - Colon (10)

SP - Eaton (15)

SP - Lowry (17)

SP - Ramon Ortiz (27)

RP - Izzy (6)

RP - Percival (9)

RP - Julio (25)

B - McPherson (18)

B - C. Everett (20)

B - Phelps (22)

B - Bartlett (23)

B - Cantu (26)

B - Branyan (29)

B - Fuentes (28) LB I've got to get home now. I will run it through when I get home. However, I am not about to tell you what mix works best...I still want to win this thing

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:47 am

Originally posted by nydownunder:

[/QB]You're undoubtedly correct. I do deprive me league from them at least

Shame I can't trade!

Dave

[ March 21, 2005, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Dyv ]

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:50 am

Originally posted by Dyv:

quote:Originally posted by nydownunder:

Dyv

Pitching

W S K ERA WHIP TOTAL

6.4 8.0 3.2 13.0 12.1 43/75 Wow, you only show me at 3.2 for strikeouts? Wins seem a little low, too - would you mind doublechecking?

SP: Prior, Halladay, Garcia, Marquis, O. Hernandez, Dave Williams

RP: Guardado, Takatsu, Ayala

I show Prior with 211, Halladay 152, Garcia 176, Marquis at 136, Orlando produces about 100, Dave Williams a good year at 114. Guardado, Takatsu and Ayala add up to about 160 for a total of about 1050 or so.. would expect that to be about an 8 ? Wins I project out closer to 9 as well.

(No problem if your projections are showing different - just wanted to make sure)

Thanks for doing all this - much appreciated!

Dave [/QUOTE]Prior 165 IP OHERN&Williams 140IP You're 3rd reliever is what is killing your K and W's. However, if you plug a 22nd Rnd SP in, you'd only imporve about 1 point across as your WHIp and ERA take a hit.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:51 am

Thank you, Sir!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:54 am

To follow-up, Dyv I have you with 52% of your points coming from pitching, finishing 32nd overall. I have GG at 36th overall.

(Per the above discussion, I have you scoring 13 and 12 for era and whip, 9 for wins and 6 for Ks and Svs).

My team projects out to 9th overall, but of course I have forecast bias built-in to my picks which makes a projection for my own team really meaningless.

[ March 21, 2005, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:59 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

To follow-up, Dyv I have you with 52% of your points coming from pitching, finishing 32nd overall. I have GG at 36th overall.

My team projects out to 9th overall, but of course I have forecast bias built-in to my picks which makes a projection for my own team really meaningless. That's a very comfortable feel as I have me in that ballpark right now as well. The question is can I manage it to a better finish or not? Per Gordon's earlier comment on a different thread is it fair to say that very few teams would project out to a top 10 finish at this point? I would argue it's because you can't account for how I juggle my pitchers, but it's probably also some portion of not accounting for WW plays.

With my upside, looking top 50 right now is what I was hoping for.

Dyv

kd.gray · Post by **kd.gray** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:10 am

OK, I'll throw my teams out there for critique.

LV lg #5, pick 12:

C LoDuca, Buck

1B Teixeira, 3B Lowell, CI Hinske

2B Roberts, SS Rollins, MI Burke

OF M Ramirez, Rowand, Lawton, Ibanez, Rios

UT Sledge

Bench- Encarnacion, Langerhaus, Nakamura, L Gonzalez (Col)

P's Halladay, Mulder, Greinke, Webb, Westbrook, Bedard, MRivera, Mesa, HStreet

Bench- Suppan, Colome, Fuentes

ML Auction:

C LoDuca, Barrett

1B Ortiz, 3B Blake, CI Feliz

2B Vidro, SS Uribe, MI Crosby

OF Abreu, Patterson, Nixon, Rios, DeJesus

UT Burke

bench- Hollandsworth, Langerhaus, Nakamura

P's Schmidt, C Zambrano, Madritsch, CLee, Washburn, Gagne, Adams, Valverde, Otsuka

bench- Urbina, Shields, Blanton, F Hernandez

Thanks for any input

mdz129 · Post by **mdz129** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:19 am

Las Vegas 4 pick #14 -- any thoughts?

Barrett

Sneider

K. Millar

D. Jimenez

M. Giles

Uribe

C. Guillen

C Jones

I Suzuki

J Edmonds

J Guillen

T Nixon

B Williams

B Broussard

Bench

BJ Upton

O Hudson

N Johnson

T lee

C Guzman

Pitchers

J Schmidt

Oliver Perez

Woody Williams

J Contreas

J Lackey

J Washburn

A Leiter

J Mesa

Mike Adams

Bench

Waiver Wire

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:23 am

Originally posted by kd.gray:

OK, I'll throw my teams out there for critique.

LV lg #5, pick 12:

C LoDuca, Buck

1B Teixeira, 3B Lowell, CI Hinske

2B Roberts, SS Rollins, MI Burke

OF M Ramirez, Rowand, Lawton, Ibanez, Rios

UT Sledge

Bench- Encarnacion, Langerhaus, Nakamura, L Gonzalez (Col)

P's Halladay, Mulder, Greinke, Webb, Westbrook, Bedard, MRivera, Mesa, HStreet

Bench- Suppan, Colome, Fuentes

ML Auction:

C LoDuca, Barrett

1B Ortiz, 3B Blake, CI Feliz

2B Vidro, SS Uribe, MI Crosby

OF Abreu, Patterson, Nixon, Rios, DeJesus

UT Burke

bench- Hollandsworth, Langerhaus, Nakamura

P's Schmidt, C Zambrano, Madritsch, CLee, Washburn, Gagne, Adams, Valverde, Otsuka

bench- Urbina, Shields, Blanton, F Hernandez

Thanks for any input Hmmmm, for the Main Event league I'd say you're very all around good at hitting. I wouldn't be happy with Chris Burke there as he's not likely to play. Not only is he lackluster in Spring and now minor injury... but on top of that we know Garner hates rookies... Luis Gonzalez is a nice cover, perhaps - but will he play?

I like Rios for the future, but kind of hard to get too excited about someone with 1 HR in 425 at bats last year... may be that Encarnacion or Langerhans fills that slot better?

Pitching looks good as well. Nice blend of SP, RP and Closers. I think you got one of Arizona's revolving doors at closer and Valverde should net you 10-12 saves anyway.

Looks very good to me.

Auction looks better to me, actually - although same players same opinions in some ways!

Find a sleeper OF to jump on!

Dave

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:30 am

Originally posted by UFS:

J.Lopez

G.Zaun

D.Erstad

A.Ramirez

J.Uribe

T.Walker

M.Tejeda

E.Renteria

H.Matsui

R.Winn

J.Reed

E.Chavez

M.Grissom

ut- choice of

L.Rivas

C.Kotchman

L.Nix

A.Kennedy

M.Stairs

D.Bell

Mota

Ryan

Hawkins

Shields

Colon

L.Hernandez

M.Buehele

B.Lawrence

K.Benson

R.Lopez

thought.....

a)I only had a 30% cance on A.Ramirez in 3rd

b)ditto on H.Matsui in 4th

c)I had 0% chance on J.Lopez in 5th. Moved closers to 6/7 from 5/6

d) Buehrle in 11 and R.Lopez in 17 were steals.

e) had to take Erstad for 15 sb's. That could haunt me later. John,

I rate your team out at 55th overall, 81% percentile. Pitching scores 53% of total.

Very high BA, decent r/rbi prodcn, mediocre hr/sb. Very good ERA and WHIP with only Benson in the 4.00s, above avg in both W and SV but hurt by K totals.

Take a look at my roster if you get a chance. Thanks.

[ March 21, 2005, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

kd.gray · Post by **kd.gray** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:31 am

Thanks for input, I was getting concerned reading all the talk about Biggio moving to 2B/SS later.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:32 am

LB

Batting

4.4 10.2 8.8 9.1 8.8 41

Pitching

5.3 8.2 4.4 7.8 7.8 34

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:33 am

KJ

I know what mine spits out for mine team, do you mine running it through yours?

C Closser

C Phillips

1B Overbay (#12)

3B ARod (#1)

CI E. Chavez (#2)

2B Spivey/Cantu

SS Greene (#16)

MI Vizquel

OF Huff (#3)

OF Wells (#7)

OF Rowand (#8)

OF Ford

OF Nixon

UT Ibanez

SP Halladay (#4)

SP Bonderman (#9)

SP Escobar (#11)

SP Thomson (#13)

SP Benson (#14)

SP Weaver (#15)

SP Byrd

SP Robertson

RP Dotel (#5)

RP Mota (#7)

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:33 am

NY and Big, take a look if you get a chance. Thx.

C ...... Johnny Estrada

C ...... Koyie Hill / Matt LeCroy

1B ..... Paul Konerko

3B/CI . Corey Koskie/Garret Atkins

2B ..... Placido Polanco/ Orlando Hudson

SS/MI . Carlos Guillen/ Khalil Greene

OF ..... Carl Crawford

OF ..... Carlos Lee

OF ..... Andruw Jones

OF ..... Pat Burrell

OF ..... Dustan Mohr/ Willy Taveras/ JJ Davis

UT ..... Josh Phelps/ Rob Mackowiak

SP ..... Jason Schmidt

SP ..... Oliver Perez

SP ..... Freddy Garcia

SP ..... Bronson Arroyo

SP ..... Esteban Loaiza

SP ..... Wade Miller/ Bruce Chen

CL ..... Eric Gagne

CL ..... Mike Adams

CL ..... Greg Aquino

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:36 am

nyunder...

rate me...please...

1B LaRoche

CI Thome

2B Loretta

MI Figgins

SS Matsui

3B Crede or Tracy

C Lo Duca; Pierzynski

OF Wells; A.Jones; Crawford; Sanders; Holliday;

SP R.Lopez; Eaton; Zito; Maddux; Milton;

Washburn; Benson

RP B.Wagner; Foulke

thanks.

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:42 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

nyunder...

rate me...please...

1B LaRoche

CI Thome

2B Loretta

MI Figgins

SS Matsui

3B Crede or Tracy

C Lo Duca; Pierzynski

OF Wells; A.Jones; Crawford; Sanders; Holliday;

SP R.Lopez; Eaton; Zito; Maddux; Milton;

Washburn; Benson

RP B.Wagner; Foulke

thanks. Give me 5 (mins)...if the wife comes home, give me 30.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:43 am

Originally posted by Dyv:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

John... GREG FREAKING ZAUN ??? (I have Todd Greene as my #2 catcher so I'll just shut up, lol)

Super flex man Juan Uribe is fascinating for team management perspective - that's a nice pull.

I'm concerned with Marquis Grissom having a big part of your offense, but who can't fill an OF spot, right? Nix might be your man already...I'd start him over Grissom if he wins the starting job outright.

Hurly Burly hit makes your pitching staff go from 'very nice' to 'pretty good' - but I bet you can manage to scrape up a pitcher or two.

Nice job - the average joe Pitching staff is a little underwhelming until you start to think through the stats each should produce. I think your biggest fight there will be WHIP. If BJ Ryan goes 'Joe Nathan 2004' then you're going to be smiling

Nice draft -

Dave [/QUOTE]Thanks.... Zaun was pick #30.lol. I'll find a C, no worries there...

On WHIP, Colon will be fine.

He was 1.21 second half. His first half problems are history and he came into camp in much better shhape this year. I have him at 1.28.

Lopez (1.28), Benson (1.17), Buehrle(1.19), Hernandez(1.22) were all under 1.30 second half last year and Lawrence was at 1.36.

I have my WHIP around 1.31.

All six starters could win 15 and most have at one time.

I like Mota for 40, Ryan for 30, and Hawkins for 10-15.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:44 am

Originally posted by nydownunder:

Give me 5 (mins)...if the wife comes home, give me 30. trust me...i know the feeling

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:45 am

Originally posted by UFS:

I like Mota for 40, Ryan for 30, and Hawkins for 10-15. with the exception of ryan, that's crackpipe talk

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:47 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

nyunder...

rate me...please...

1B LaRoche

CI Thome

2B Loretta

MI Figgins

SS Matsui

3B Crede or Tracy

C Lo Duca; Pierzynski

OF Wells; A.Jones; Crawford; Sanders; Holliday;

SP R.Lopez; Eaton; Zito; Maddux; Milton;

Washburn; Benson

RP B.Wagner; Foulke

thanks. [/QUOTE

Geiko, you obviously dont have the tough in baseball, stick to football, thanks for the donation this year! great! with that team im looking for very few posts from you!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:50 am

Originally posted by fandango:

Geiko, you obviously dont have the tough in baseball, stick to football, thanks for the donation this year! great! with that team im looking for very few posts from you! just for you, i will double the amount of posts during the baseball season.

as for football, i would beat you 80 out of 100 times. most likely more, but i'm being generous to you. enjoy!

triple a · Post by **triple a** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:50 am

The Champs starting squad: Triple A. NY league #1. for those of you interested.

c m.barrett

c m.olivo

1b p.konerko

2b m.cuddyer

ss r.furcal

3b a.ramirez

ci b.broussard

mi a.berroa

of i.suzuki

of a.jones

of b.wilkerson

of c.wilson

of j.gibbons

dh m.ensberg

p m.clement

p k.escobar

p a.eaton

p j.lackey

p d.haren

p d.bush

p p.byrd

p j.johnson

cl b.lidge

no complaints with my hitting although i could use a few more steals. have l.matos on reserve who i can squeeze in and hopefully will have a healthy season. could of used another top starter, a little short there. need my sleeper starters to come through to have a chance. took lyon and macdougal for reserve in case aquino and affeldt arent healthy. dont like my team as much as i did leaving the draft last year. with my projected stats this team would of finished 35th overall last year. decent! hopefully with pickups i can improve. what are the odds of winning this again anyway lol wish everyone luck and a great season. artie triple a

nydownunder · Post by **nydownunder** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:52 am

GEKKO

BATTING

R HR RBI SB AVG

5.5 10.7 8.5 4.6 8.3 38

(Depending on several players AB's these numbers would rise - but not considerably.)

PITCHING

W S K ERA WHIP

7.3 10.2 12.0 15.0 14.9 59

(6 starters 3 RPs)

124 points wins your own league!

Nice staff

Kosher Meat · Post by **Kosher Meat** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:53 am

NY League #2 Pick Four-----I know all about hitting being the most important, but seriously some starters just fell to me and I had to jump on board.

C Lo Duca

C Ausmus

1B Thome

2B Castillo

SS C. Guillen

3rd Blake/McPherson

CI Phil Nevin

MI Eckstein

OF Vlad Guererro

OF J. Pierre

OF J. Guillen

OF C. Floyd

OF T. Redman/B. Jordan

DH Blake/Durazo

P Zambrano

P Hudson--------------FIFTH ROUND--------------

P Mulder

P B. Lawrence

P J. Westbrook

P Russ Ortiz

P O. Hernandez

P F. Cordero

P C. Cordero

How late did Hudson go in the other drafts???????

So....how's the team?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:54 am

Originally posted by nydownunder:

GEKKO

BATTING

R HR RBI SB AVG

5.5 10.7 8.5 4.6 8.3 38

(Depending on several players AB's these numbers would rise - but not considerably.)

8.3 for SB. i have myself projected at 142. using most other publications sb projections i'm around 155. that's got to be at least 12 pts. 5.5 for runs look a little light. thanks for the numbers.