Winning & a Random Simulation

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by ALL-IN JD » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Greg,

What is the likelihood of maybe getting a sponsor to "increase" the top prize or prizes. For instance 100K + a new car. Or what about vacation packages, maybe a 4 ticket Super Bowl Package, maybe a NFBC Overall Championship bracelet like they have in the Word Series of Poker. Just trying to think outside the box to increase the top prizes.


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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Rog » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:36 pm

I am all about raising the big carrot if it could be done without breaking my bank and still paying out 3 league spots.
I am not a man of money and can only afford to play with the money I win the year before or over the years. I have no problem reinvesting my winnings back into the nfbc/nffc but I need to be able to do it with a thought in my mind that I can still have a chance to win/place or show.
but if the main went to only paying 2 spots but a bigger carrot I would probably not play and just do more DC's and 12 teamers,now I know the 12 teamers only pay 2 spots but that is against 12 not 15.

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by poopytooth » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:06 am

Quahogs wrote:It's top heavy and it should be. Reward the person who bested 434 others. I think 150k to 1st is the prize that justifies the amount of time and work that goes into it. The ME for $1500 or $1650 is what it is. It won't be a 600 entry event. There are too many other options to catch peoples $ and attention. So let's make it something special for us ME lifers. 150k will get you 100k in your pocket after taxes.

It's not watered down up top. It's not league $ centric. There are other games for players who prefer those.
Agree 100%

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Glenneration X » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:27 am

If you're looking to bump the carrot in the hopes of increasing membership, don't do it incrementally. It won't have the impact you're hoping for. There's not as much of a psychological difference between $100K, $125K, $150K as you think. Figure out how to make it $200K and membership should increase. It's a proven formula in football.

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by poopytooth » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:34 am

Glenneration X wrote:If you're looking to bump the carrot in the hopes of increasing membership, don't do it incrementally. It won't have the impact you're hoping for. There's not as much of a psychological difference between $100K, $125K, $150K as you think. Figure out how to make it $200K and membership should increase. It's a proven formula in football.
agree

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Gekko » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:42 am

250K could get me back in the main event :mrgreen:

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by KJ Duke » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:37 am

Gekko wrote:250K could get me back in the main event :mrgreen:

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Make it one MILLION and Juprinka will quit his day job! :P

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Gekko » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:41 am

a million undoubtedly lands me in divorce court :twisted:

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:26 am

Gekko wrote:a million undoubtedly lands me in divorce court :twisted:
You already told her this was a 'baseball weekend'.
You're half way there! :lol:
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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by TParsons » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:15 am

Glenneration X wrote:If you're looking to bump the carrot in the hopes of increasing membership, don't do it incrementally. It won't have the impact you're hoping for. There's not as much of a psychological difference between $100K, $125K, $150K as you think. Figure out how to make it $200K and membership should increase. It's a proven formula in football.
Agree w/ Glenn (damn I'm agreeing w/ all of your posts today). Unless you can get it to $200k, I don't see the the increase in signups being substantial. I'm all for raising the overall championship prize, but not at the risk of the league prizes unless it's something that's going to be substantial. If your current analysis is revealing that the overall prize can be increased without decreasing the league prizes, then sign me up.

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Hells Satans » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:18 am

TParsons wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:If you're looking to bump the carrot in the hopes of increasing membership, don't do it incrementally. It won't have the impact you're hoping for. There's not as much of a psychological difference between $100K, $125K, $150K as you think. Figure out how to make it $200K and membership should increase. It's a proven formula in football.
Agree w/ Glenn (damn I'm agreeing w/ all of your posts today). Unless you can get it to $200k, I don't see the the increase in signups being substantial. I'm all for raising the overall championship prize, but not at the risk of the league prizes unless it's something that's going to be substantial. If your current analysis is revealing that the overall prize can be increased without decreasing the league prizes, then sign me up.
See, I disagree with Glenn to the extent he's saying it all needs to happen at once. You can have a plan and get there incrementally over the course of 2-3 years.

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by TParsons » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:31 pm

Hells Satans wrote:
TParsons wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:If you're looking to bump the carrot in the hopes of increasing membership, don't do it incrementally. It won't have the impact you're hoping for. There's not as much of a psychological difference between $100K, $125K, $150K as you think. Figure out how to make it $200K and membership should increase. It's a proven formula in football.
Agree w/ Glenn (damn I'm agreeing w/ all of your posts today). Unless you can get it to $200k, I don't see the the increase in signups being substantial. I'm all for raising the overall championship prize, but not at the risk of the league prizes unless it's something that's going to be substantial. If your current analysis is revealing that the overall prize can be increased without decreasing the league prizes, then sign me up.
See, I disagree with Glenn to the extent he's saying it all needs to happen at once. You can have a plan and get there incrementally over the course of 2-3 years.
I don't disagree. All I'm saying is that if you're using the price increase as a driver to increase participation, I don't think that the incremental increases are going to bring in many more people based solely on that as a marketing mechanism. The 200k likely would, but I'm not sure it would bring in enough new blood to warrant that kind of increase immediately. If they're going to do it, I'd guess there's going to need to be a small increase in the fee and likely having at least one additional draft date.

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Re: Winning & a Random Simulation

Post by Cocktails and Dreams » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:52 pm

KJ Duke wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:You guys are acting like we're thinking about doubling the entry fee to add to the grand prize.
I think most main event players are more sensitive to percentage payback then entry fee. We'll flock to a new contest if the payback is in the 90s, but closer to 80 we'll look elsewhere. Like the big money leagues, your costs don't go up proportionately to increasing the prize pool, so that's a potential win/win for the player and contest to reach higher stakes.

That is the main thing for me for sure in any fantasy contest. Prize pool percentage. Was not a big fan of a competitor in football with basically unlimited entries but not increasing prizes in their 350 buy in game. If I know the percentage paid out, I know that I can benefit or not benefit however they decide to structure it. Yet another competitor in football went to a top heavy league payout. I was not a fan of it initially. But at the end of the day, we can all benefit or not benefit as long as we know what it is going to pay out. Most people capable of cashing in a league are capable of winning the whole thing with some breaks here and there.

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