2007 Projected First Round Picks

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:53 am

Nutty Scrat,

We also took Santana and finished 3rd overall. First time I had built a team starting with a pitcher, and I'd do it again as long as our big board said we were getting value (like it did with Santana at 13). So it can be done.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:03 am

A few more that will receive consideration:

1) Aramis Ramirez - probably the fourth 3B taken (after ARod, Wright, and Cabrera) unless Atkins sneaks ahead of him.

2) Jermaine Dye - 2006 numbers will excite a lot of people (Top 30 in HR, R, RBI, and BA for players with more than 400AB)

3) Manny Ramirez - Does anyone really believe his year was so bad to fall from consensus first round to third round? Many will think he will be "rebound" candidate. After an 18 game lay-off, he comes in on 9/30 and goes 2 for 3 with a walk and a homer.

Just thoughts...

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:09 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

I agree with Mr. Rockwell. Carlos Lee I think will go in the second. The rest of the list looks great, so who would I bump for C. Lee?

Bad spring and I would guess Derrick Lee (too late for the magazine), or one of the speed guys could move (Figgins?). All that being said, I think Atkins has the best chance of being bumped to the third (though I think he is a great ballplayer).

Of the Top 30, the player I think will dissappoint in 2007 is Soriano. He will go in the first round, but he will not post 2006 numbers (or really even close). Wayne- you can call me Chest. Only Bjoak has to call me Mr Rockwell. [/QUOTE]

Deal. You going to be in Tampa again next year? [/QUOTE]Still a ways from deciding on the NFBC in 07- I am sure I will be involved in some fashion.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:47 am

In regard to Sizemore in the first. I think it's a small reach. I only take for sure guys in the first 5 rounds or so and try not to project what they might do. I do consider Sizemore as a "for sure" guy, but for 290 25 hr or so with 22 sb's or so. Scoring lots of runs and doing ok in the rbi dept. for a leadoff guy. That's good,b ut not yet good enough for the 1st round. I have him listed as player #20. Not far off the first round. Having said that all my subsequint picks play off my 1st round pick whoever it is. Sizemore does fit in well with whoever I get in round 1 since he has power and speed with good ave. very good player. Not quite in the first round yet.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:57 am

Okay, we've found 35 or so players who likely will go in the top two rounds next year. What order they go in will definitely change between now and Draft Day, which we all agree. But for the most part, that core group looks pretty solid. Hmmm, time to find the next 15!

I'm on it!

Nutty Scrats · Post by **Nutty Scrats** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:56 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

quote:Originally posted by Nutty Scrat:

Maybe I missed this but I was just wondering if any team in the NFFC Leagues who finished in the money (particularly 1st) drafted Johan Santana (or perhaps any other pitcher) with their first round draft pick. That being said should a pitcher actually qualify as a first round or even maybe a second round pick? Some things that make me go hmmmmmmm? LOL

Ed Mr. Scrat, I can see why NFFC teams wouldn't finish in first if they drafted Santana. I don't believe he can pass or punt.

I think Santana was on one or two of the top winning teams here. I think it changes every year. A couple years ago a lot more pitchers went in the first two rounds but there are less guys who seem so consistantly dominant now. I do think that the less players who take pitchers, the more debilitating it becomes to take them. To put it more simply, there was essentially a run on hitters last year and there probably will be in 2007 and so if you take a pitcher, you are missing the stats that are flying off the shelf the quickest.

It will be interesting to see how the first round shapes up over the next few years as players get more savvy. I think one position could essentially take over the round kind of like running backs do in football (at least that's what I hear; I couldn't even tell you what a running back's job is). [/QUOTE]bjoak I here Santana throws a great deep pattern but it has a problem with some of the crossing patterns! LOL I was just curious because I drafted him in the first round in one of my satellite leagues but finished in the middle of the pack. After the draft was over i was wondering if I made a mistake with Santana in the first round. Ed

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:42 am

Okay, I admit I'm stumped here in the third round. Remember, this is the round where Ryan Howard and Roy Halladay went last year, so I'm trying to be thorough, but it's not easy. Who is that diamond in the rough this year? Why can't I find him in October?

Four starting pitchers also went in the first three rounds on average last year and I'm not sure I can find one to follow after Johan Santana. Is Jake Peavy worthy with that 4+ ERA? Probably. Do we gamble on Oswalt, Zambrano, Bonderman or Carpenter this high? And speaking of pitchers, should any closer go in the third round, outside of maybe Francisco Rodriguez?

Here's a partial list of my third round choices in no particular order and I need help filling it out. Anyone want to jump in?

Greg's Third Round Prospects, Not In Order:

Hanley Ramirez

Bobby Abreu

Manny Ramirez

Aramis Ramirez

Carlos Lee

Paul Konerko

Francisco Rodriguez

Jake Peavy

Joe Mauer

Jermaine Dye

Rafael Furcal

Johnny Damon

Scott Podsednik/Felipe Lopez/Brian Roberts???

Zambrano/Oswalt/Bonderman/Carpenter????

Victor Martinez???

Wow, I need to spend more time on this. What do you think?

BEF · Post by **BEF** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:08 pm

I think the 3rd round is too early for a closer, even K-Rod, no matter how good he is; we all thought the same thing about Lidge last year and he rewarded us with an ERA over 5.

Even if he is DH only, not sure you can keep Thome off this list, as he does everything except steal. A trio of 3-Category hitters (HR/RBI/RUNS) might be considered in the latter half of the third round: Andruw Jones, Jason Giambi (depending on his wrist) and Troy Glaus (depending on his knee).

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:08 pm

After having Bonderman for the last two years in the NFBC,I do not see what he has done to go from a 13 or 14 rounder to a third round pick.He can look great for a while.But,he can not blow major league hitters away for the whole game.The more trouble he get into the harder he tries to throw.Just my opinion but if he can get an offspeed pitch he has faith in he will be a great pitcher.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:18 am

Tough round for sure, Greg.

I see three SP going in the third. Probably, in no particular order, Oswalt, Halladay, and Carpenter (unless he gets lite up in the WS). I think Peavy (team and 1H06 issues) and Zambrano (Team 2006 record and workload) will slip to the fourth.

Two catchers will go...Mauer and Martinez. McCann will go in the fourth (can you believe a Braves fan said that?).

At least one more speed demon will go, Lopez in my opinion.

There will be a rare league where a closer will go in the third, but by and large the closer run (four to six) will go in the fourth.

Thome and A. Jones are great candidates to go in the third. I do not think Glaus (BA) or Giambi will go until the fifth earliest.

If Bobby Abreu, Manny Ramirez, Aramis Ramirez, Carlos Lee, and Paul Konerko are all going to be there to begin the round as well as some good speed, I think I see my draft preferences beginning to take shape.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:56 am

I really don't see Martinez going often in the 3rd. I think late late 3rd / early 4th. It is pretty damn hard to draft a guy who will give you 16-20 hr and no speed in this round. If he was showing more like 30hr power (like if he hit 28 this year) I would agree, but look at Ross. I got him through FAAB and he had more HR...

I agree that Peavy will also fall often to the 4th, 11 wins and 4.0 ERA just are hard to swallow and pitchers are so damn risky. Of course, he could turn into a total monster and have a huge year on ERA/Whip but the Wins are always going to be hard given that offense

I think Delgado will wait till the 4th. That BA and advancing age + the home park issue will make it hard to go for him in the 3rd...

I do think that Felippe has shown enough between the 23 hr of 2 years ago and the 44 sb of last year to go in the 3rd. Who knows? maybe he will have a 44SB / 20 hr season which is huge. The fact that he ended with 3SB in the final week certainly bodes well for him finishing high

Spy

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Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:23 am

Filipe won't hit 20 in that ballpark. he's mostly an sb guy now. Even that could depend some on the new manager. Frank was ready to run. Some managers don't like to go.