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ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:50 am

No question about the saves but the 5 era they COULD (not will) provide over 100 or so innings definitely wont help. Agreed about Baker and Morales although I think Baker has a much better shot of stepping forward.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:58 am

I wouldn't read too much into this draft when preparing for the live draft. First MDC does a great job. That said, things happen when your drafting on a computer. One problem I had was the list of players selected kept scrolling to the top. It took forever to try and get it back to the current pick. Not sure what was causing this but it cut into the time I needed to find players on the site list. Also the time trying to find players is not an issue in a live draft. You just call them out. On the computer if you don't make the selection it auto picks for you. In the live draft they skip your pick and than come back to you. Though getting skipped is not good it's much better than getting a player you don't want. Maybe I'm the only one who has problems with a computer but I'll take the live draft over computers any day. Word of advice for those paying to play in the computer leagues. Be sure to take the time to pre-set the draft list. Its time consuming but it will save you in the end.

I didn't do this and paid for it. But than I didn't lay any money down either. Like I said MDC does a great job and they're good for what they are.

[ December 19, 2007, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: Walla Walla ]

Team Herron · Post by **Team Herron** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:10 am

Sack,

Hope all is well my friend. Good point on the punting saves. I have been to content to punt saves and battle for the league crown, but it was a hinderance in my quest for the overall crown.

I do not intend to punt saves this year, unless my team blows by the 6th round.

Jesse

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:11 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

Here goes the 6th pick squad:

C Laird

C Torrealba

1B Pujols

2B Upton

SS Jeter

3B Chavez (ugh)

MI Hudson

CI Barton

OF Hunter

OF Rowand

OF Sheffield

OF Alou

OF Cameron

UT Fukudome

P Lincecum

P Chamberlin

P Bonderman

P D. Lowe

P Francis

P Andrew Miller

P Papelbon

P Valverde

P Wood

R Pie

R M. Byrd

R Danks

R B. Lyon

R Lamb

R J. Bautista

R Scherzer Fireballs,

I am having a hard time judging your team because you picked five OF that have huge red flags for me. New parks, age, and attitude in the group really make them risky to me. More strong pitching (am I seeing a trend) though I think I see some 2H issues in the SP. Even with Chavez you have a nice mix in the MI and CM slots.

Analysis this early means little, but this team will take some strong in-season management (don't they all)! I see middle of the pack on this one.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:14 am

Originally posted by Team Herron:

Ok, here is my team.

C Johjima, Kenji 10

C Rodriguez, Ivan 11

1B Berkman, Lance 2

3B Ramirez, Aramis 3

CI Rolen, Scott 14

2B Johnson, Kelly 9

SS Ramirez, Hanley 1

MI Lopez, Felipe 15

OF Damon, Johnn 8

OF Willingham, Josh12

OF Ibanez, Raul 13

OF Drew, JD 16

OF McLouth, Nate 17

U Huff, Aubrey 20

P Beckett, Josh 4

P Verlander, Justin 5

P Zambrano, Carlos 6

P Harden, Rich 18

P Sonnanstine, Andrew19

P Silva, Carlos 23

P Betancourt, Raphael 22

P dempster, Ryan 21

P Jenks, Bobby 7

Reserves:

Howell, JP

Weathers, David

Tracy, Chad

Davis, Rajai

Wilkerson, Brad

Meredith, Cla

Johnson, Dan Great team Jesse, but you know what struck me (I guess I am in a weird mood today)? You have a great bench. Several of these players I think will be starters (even without injuries) for you by YE.

Survey says...a contender!

SluggoJD · Post by **SluggoJD** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:34 am

Well, I suppose I should be embarrased...

C - Varitek, Doumit

1B - Youkillis

2B - Kent

3B - Braun

SS - Cabrera

OF - Hart, Matsui, A Jones, Crisp, J Jones

CI - Figgins

MI - Hardy

U - Ortiz

P - Sheets, Liriano, Hughes, Arroyo, Guthrie, Patterson, Nathan, CJ Wilson, Dotel

B - Stairs, Lowry, J Rivera, Okajima, B Wood, Keppinger, Westbrook

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:47 am

Sluggo, are you a closet Brewer fan?

Who is throwing out the first pitch opening day, Gorman Thomas?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:23 am

Originally posted by Asumijet:

So what is considered the standard for offense? better than GLY's offense

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:29 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

C Mauer, Barrett

CI Ryan Howard, Alex Gordon, E Encarnacion

MI Brandon Phillips, Ryan Theriot, Freddy Sanchez

OF Alex Rios, Pierre, Francour, Winn, Jose Guillen

U Dmitri Young

P Harang, Smoltz, Lilly, Garza, Marcum, J Schmidt, Capuano, Izzy, Gagne

not bad on O.

at this point, a couple of your pitchers look like lost causes, but without knowing what round you took them in, i can't say how risky of a pick it was.

question: how many AB do you have pierre for?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:33 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

Here goes the 6th pick squad:

C Laird

C Torrealba

1B Pujols

2B Upton

SS Jeter

3B Chavez (ugh)

MI Hudson

CI Barton

OF Hunter

OF Rowand

OF Sheffield

OF Alou

OF Cameron

UT Fukudome

P Lincecum

P Chamberlin

P Bonderman

P D. Lowe

P Francis

P Andrew Miller

P Papelbon

P Valverde

P Wood

R Pie

R M. Byrd

R Danks

R B. Lyon

R Lamb

R J. Bautista

R Scherzer as usual, well done jeff. a little light in SP, esp with no #1 SP, but i saw you work magic with your staff last year, so i don't think it will be a problem for you.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:37 am

Originally posted by Team Herron:

Ok, here is my team.

C Johjima, Kenji 10

C Rodriguez, Ivan 11

1B Berkman, Lance 2

3B Ramirez, Aramis 3

CI Rolen, Scott 14

2B Johnson, Kelly 9

SS Ramirez, Hanley 1

MI Lopez, Felipe 15

OF Damon, Johnn 8

OF Willingham, Josh12

OF Ibanez, Raul 13

OF Drew, JD 16

OF McLouth, Nate 17

U Huff, Aubrey 20

P Beckett, Josh 4

P Verlander, Justin 5

P Zambrano, Carlos 6

P Harden, Rich 18

P Sonnanstine, Andrew19

P Silva, Carlos 23

P Betancourt, Raphael 22

P dempster, Ryan 21

P Jenks, Bobby 7

Reserves:

Howell, JP

Weathers, David

Tracy, Chad

Davis, Rajai

Wilkerson, Brad

Meredith, Cla

Johnson, Dan another nice team.

notes:

- watch to see if HRAM & ARAM are healthy this spring.

- i see you are drinking the shandler koolaid with verlander in the 5th!!!

- is silva worth a roster spot?!?!?

- you got what looks to me some INCREDIBLE value with a couple of your picks. i won't say which ones, but good job!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:43 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

picks from slot #1:

C V Martinez, D Navarro, D Ross

1b C Pena, C Jackson

3b A-Rod

2b R Weeks, A Casilla

SS Tulwotzki, Renteria

Of H Pence, Victorino, M Bradley, Baldelli, F Gutierrez, Milledge, T Buck, McCutcheon

SP J Vazquez, P Martinez, Billingsley, Wainwright, H Kuroda, R Wolf, C Villanueva, R Clemens

RP K Gregg, T Pena, J Benoit, J Duchscherer from the one slot...who were you're 2nd and 3rd round picks???

vmart, tul, pena??? if so, WOW! they better exceed everyone's projections to justify that.

but i think you made up for those in the later rounds. not sure you have that lockdown #1SP on your roster. wolf was a good one that is flying under the radar (so far). overall, not bad.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:52 am

Gecko: quite obviously, I would say V-Mart and Tulowitzki... cmon now.. those aren't bad picks at all. VMart at the end of the 2nd and Tulo at the beginning of the 3rd.. maybe Tulo a bit early, but after the big 3 were gone, he was probably the next best SS...

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:53 am

I started writing that before you edited it to add in the part about Vmart and Tulo.. lol

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:56 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

picks from slot #1:

C V Martinez, D Navarro, D Ross

1b C Pena, C Jackson

3b A-Rod

2b R Weeks, A Casilla

SS Tulwotzki, Renteria

Of H Pence, Victorino, M Bradley, Baldelli, F Gutierrez, Milledge, T Buck, McCutcheon

SP J Vazquez, P Martinez, Billingsley, Wainwright, H Kuroda, R Wolf, C Villanueva, R Clemens

RP K Gregg, T Pena, J Benoit, J Duchscherer from the one slot...who were you're 2nd and 3rd round picks???

vmart, tul, pena??? if so, WOW! they better exceed everyone's projections to justify that.

but i think you made up for those in the later rounds. not sure you have that lockdown #1SP on your roster. wolf was a good one that is flying under the radar (so far). overall, not bad. [/QUOTE]Yeah, according to the other thread it was V-Mart and Tulowitzki. Tulowitzki, particularly, I guess people are touting him as an early pick if he's going that early, but, wow. It's not like defense is going to help your hitters.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:59 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

Gecko: quite obviously, I would say V-Mart and Tulowitzki... cmon now.. those aren't bad picks at all. VMart at the end of the 2nd and Tulo at the beginning of the 3rd.. maybe Tulo a bit early, but after the big 3 were gone, he was probably the next best SS... anyone thinking that vmart deserves to be picked in the first 31 players is DEAD WRONG IMO. some may disagree, but that's what makes this fun

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:00 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

maybe Tulo a bit early, but after the big 3 were gone, he was probably the next best SS... everyone said that about billy hall last year (SS).

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:10 am

ok so now we are starting to see geckos draft shaping up. after deciding to kds to a low pick for santana he is now looking at vmart in the 3rd and troy in the 4th. 3 months of slamming out to bring those values down to where they belong- in gordos lap. kinda fuzzy for the second round- but if we all pay attention he will reveal it over time

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:26 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

Here goes the 6th pick squad:

C Laird

C Torrealba

1B Pujols

2B Upton

SS Jeter

3B Chavez (ugh)

MI Hudson

CI Barton

OF Hunter

OF Rowand

OF Sheffield

OF Alou

OF Cameron

UT Fukudome

P Lincecum

P Chamberlin

P Bonderman

P D. Lowe

P Francis

P Andrew Miller

P Papelbon

P Valverde

P Wood

R Pie

R M. Byrd

R Danks

R B. Lyon

R Lamb

R J. Bautista

R Scherzer

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as usual, well done jeff. a little light in SP, esp with no #1 SP, but i saw you work magic with your staff last year, so i don't think it will be a problem for you.

Thanks Mark. I think Francis, Lowe and Bonderman (okay maybe a reach) should be solid playing for very good teams. Obviously banking on Lincecum and Joba to take huge steps forward.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:32 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

picks from slot #1:

C V Martinez, D Navarro, D Ross

1b C Pena, C Jackson

3b A-Rod

2b R Weeks, A Casilla

SS Tulwotzki, Renteria

Of H Pence, Victorino, M Bradley, Baldelli, F Gutierrez, Milledge, T Buck, McCutcheon

SP J Vazquez, P Martinez, Billingsley, Wainwright, H Kuroda, R Wolf, C Villanueva, R Clemens

RP K Gregg, T Pena, J Benoit, J Duchscherer from the one slot...who were you're 2nd and 3rd round picks???

vmart, tul, pena??? if so, WOW! they better exceed everyone's projections to justify that.

but i think you made up for those in the later rounds. not sure you have that lockdown #1SP on your roster. wolf was a good one that is flying under the radar (so far). overall, not bad. [/QUOTE]Thx for the input GG. Don't disagree it was early for VM and Tulo, although with R Martin going at end of round 1 VMart at the end of rd 2 doesn't look too bad. As for Pena at the 4/5 turn, the next 1B's taken were Konerko, Gonzalez and Loney. I think Pena looks good in that group.

With an an end slot you have to reach at times based on where you can and can't get value later in the draft, and with an all-star group of drafters you can't risk everything falling just right.

[ December 19, 2007, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:34 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

ok so now we are starting to see geckos draft shaping up. after deciding to kds to a low pick for santana he is now looking at vmart in the 3rd and troy in the 4th. 3 months of slamming out to bring those values down to where they belong- in gordos lap. kinda fuzzy for the second round- but if we all pay attention he will reveal it over time You keep putting in time to try and figure out who I like.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:37 am

Duke - pena in the 4th makes sense. I didn't know where u took him when I posted.

Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:28 pm

Drafted from the third spot last night with this great group of champions. I'm probably not on the same level as most of you guys yet, having only won a $250 satellite league last year in my first year of NFBC competition. But I had a great experience last year, and decided to try the main event this year for the first time. Alot of you probably know me from the NFFC as I'm a four-year veteran over there.

Anyways here is my team so feel free to post any comments.

C Jorge Posada, John Buck

1B Todd Helton, Lyle Overbay

2B Brian Roberts,Mark Ellis, Chris Burke

SS Jose Reyes, David Eckstein

3B Hank Blalock, Joe Crede

OF Manny Ramirez,Adam Dunn, Gary Matthews Jr, Austin Kearns,Xavier Nady,Marcus Thames, Brandon Jones, Chris Duffy

SP Roy Halladay,Rich Hill,Brad Penny, Joe Blanton, Kevin Millwood, Kyle Kendrick, Miguel Batista, Jarrod Washburn, Brett Myers

RP J.J. Putz, Joe Borowski

Matt

[ December 19, 2007, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Da bears ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:18 pm

Originally posted by Da bears:

RP J.J. Putz, Joe Borowski, Brett Myers

pick the one (some may say two

) that is out of place

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:41 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Da bears:

RP J.J. Putz, Joe Borowski, Brett Myers

pick the one (some may say two

) that is out of place [/QUOTE]the closer formerly known as PRINCE ( Philadelphia Reliever In No Close Ehhhhhpurtunity )?

I tried

[ December 19, 2007, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]