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Post by Gordon Gekko » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:54 am

Originally posted by billywaz:

P.S. I never got that review of my team the other night Mark. i tried to give u a call after work one day, but no answer. i think with all the hype surrounding draft slots, etc...it got forgotten about.



anyways, aren't you done drafting now!! no need for a critique. those are the guys you've chosen and you don't have another satellite to try and do better.



i think you'll figure out the "driftwood" players within a week of the start of the season



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Post by billywaz » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:57 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by billywaz:

P.S. I never got that review of my team the other night Mark. i tried to give u a call after work one day, but no answer. i think with all the hype surrounding draft slots, etc...it got forgotten about.



anyways, aren't you done drafting now!! no need for a critique. those are the guys you've chosen and you don't have another satellite to try and do better.



i think you'll figure out the "driftwood" players within a week of the start of the season
[/QUOTE]Actually I may not be done, but even if I was I would be curious to hear the "driftwood" players nonetheless.



I did see that you called, but it was an absolutely crazy week.



Obviously LaRoche is "driftwood" through May most likely. :(

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Post by Da bears » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:27 pm

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Cindy, you're still being a politician.



Do I think it would be harder having the "elite" players in my league, sure...do I care if they are in my league...nope. Do I care more about my drat slot, yep.



IMO, your analogy/comparison doesn't hold water. The Yanks and Red Sox and all the teams in mlb know something about each other. A lot people in the NFBC are unknowns to everyone. You have no idea where they are coming from and what they know. So for me to think that just because someone has performed well in the NFBC, that I should be more worried about them than Joe Blow from Nowheresville or someone who hasn't excelled yet, well, I just can't get behind that logic.



If you're worried about your league, due to the other owners within, you probably don't have a chance from the outset.



I'm only focused on one owner. Pick #8 in Orlando 1. :cool: Well said GLY. The only thing that I'm focused on is my draft strategy and taking LV#4 with my 8th pick.



I do think some people do get caught up in how tough their league is and may get psyched out.



Anyways this is only my second year ever playing fantasy baseball and my first year in the NFBC main event and I'm loving it!!



Fantasy baseball rocks and I sure wish I had starting playing a few years ago. Oh well better late than never. :D See some of you guys in Vegas in a few days.
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Post by rockitsauce » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:36 pm

i completely agree w/ cindy. who is in your league is MUCH more important than your draft spot. i was in a sat last wk where a guy took kinsler in the 2nd rd. maybe kinsler justifies that during the season, but we all know he coulda got'em in the 4th easily. do you think childs makes that kind of pk? how 'bout gg?



if i found myself in a league w/ childs, thomas, deterra, & didonato i'd think that greg was holding a grudge against me cuz i don't believe brett favre was the greatest qb ever!
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Post by eddiejag » Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:13 am

Thats the first time ive heard someone mention Dettera, let me tell you he is one of the best at baseball ive ever seen.Ive been playing with him since 1993 and finally got him in the Nfbc , i think hes played three years with winning the main once and the NY ultimate once.Hes also 27th overall in lifetime standings.Not many people know him because he doesnt go to the message board and only drafts in NY.Hes one guy i always like to listen too when talking fantasy , the guy is unreal.I know the King of Queens and Qohoags know him as they too see him every year in the main and the ultimate.
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Post by King of Queens » Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:55 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Thats the first time ive heard someone mention Dettera, let me tell you he is one of the best at baseball ive ever seen.Ive been playing with him since 1993 and finally got him in the Nfbc , i think hes played three years with winning the main once and the NY ultimate once.Hes also 27th overall in lifetime standings.Not many people know him because he doesnt go to the message board and only drafts in NY.Hes one guy i always like to listen too when talking fantasy , the guy is unreal.I know the King of Queens and Qohoags know him as they too see him every year in the main and the ultimate. Two years ago, coming into Labor Day weekend, Mr. Deterra was winning the Ultimate League and was Top 3 in the NFBC Main Event. That's an incredible combo that only a few have achieved.

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Post by eddiejag » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:48 am

King he also was second in the ultimate going into the last day , but two guys passed him and missed third by a half point.
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Post by cindy » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:43 am

There is such a different point of view between the accomplished players and the non. The good players realize that playing against other top players is a disadvantage while for some reason other people are more concerned with trying to give the impression that they are fearless. While I do not understand this, I will continue to wish for a league draw with as few as the big money winners as possible:) Eddie didn't Deterra win the Ultimate? I remember seeing him in the magazine holding a big check. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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Post by GOD Loves You » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:52 am

You are quite right, us accomplished players don't worry about others. The non-accomplished do.



I hope fear and low self-esteem isn't passed on to your kids.

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Post by GOD Loves You » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:59 am

Plus...forgot to add, aren't we all playing against everyone anyways?? I know, I know,....we're not drafting against eveyone, but still...to be worried about your league draw, I think you just made a nice donation.

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Post by cindy » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:02 am

I know I am not an accomplished player and unless I am missing something you are not either, but we still have differing opinions. My point is that almost across the board the top players have a sense of respect for the other top players. It's nice to see.

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Post by sportsbettingman » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:46 am

Have fun snatching gold on the WW vs. top dogs.



You'd be surprised how much better the top teams are at that critical part of the game.



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Post by GOD Loves You » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:55 am

Cindy....4 satellites(they're only sats :rolleyes: )...worse finish..3rd. 3 1st place finishes



Lance, I check the FAAB bidding every week and just as in football, I'm amazed at the players who ARE picked up and AREN'T every week.



Ok, you guys keep losing with your attitude and I will keep winning with mine.



And I'm taking along hiatus from here.....see everyone in Orlando!



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Post by GOD Loves You » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:56 am

Oh yea, she sells sea shells by the seashore ;) :D

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Post by cindy » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:26 am

It figures. When you have success in something higher than a few hundred dollar satellites I will consider what you have to say more seriously. I'm curious, why not draft in Vegas vs. the top players?

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Post by rockitsauce » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:41 am

rt again cindy, damn this woman knows the deal!



no disrespect meant to the windy city or fla, but the BEST players are in vegas & nyc!



if you wanna increase yer chances go down to fla...if you wanna compete w/ the big dogs, go to vegas baby vegas! or nyc!



btw, all you have to do is look up the rankings & see who's actually won $$$ in this thing, even an fng like me can figure out who's the real deal, and who's just talkin'. that's why i have mad respect for the ppl i mentioned in my last post and many others! (mickle, eddy g, y'all know who u r)



i study the comp like i study mlb players, there's all-stars, pro's, rookies, and bums in both worlds.



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Post by Chest Rockwell » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:01 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Cindy....4 satellites(they're only sats :rolleyes: )...worse finish..3rd. 3 1st place finishes



Lance, I check the FAAB bidding every week and just as in football, I'm amazed at the players who ARE picked up and AREN'T every week.



Ok, you guys keep losing with your attitude and I will keep winning with mine.



And I'm taking along hiatus from here.....see everyone in Orlando!



Happy traveling and drafts to all. Maybe Greg can create a forum below General Discussion for posts that contain Patrick bragging, telling us personal info, or talking about how he just drafts differently from everyone else. (I cannot figure out who screams look at me more my 4 year old niece or the guy who stoled Patrick's login). There are certainly enough posts to fill it up the last few weeks alone. Where did the humble nice guy that I wrongly accused of something awful a few years ago go? There is still hope for you to be nice, unlike me!



BTW- Vegas and NYC are no tougher than Orlando and Chicago. This is coming from someone who will have done both type cities for multiple years. That is the beauty of this contest every place is over the top difficult and you will earn every dime you win.

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Post by Hard Heads » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:16 am

Cindy having respect for top players as you are sure the Childs, Gillis, Srebro etc do is different then fearing them. I respect them very much and I am new to this, but do I worry about who is in my league, not as much as you do. I control my picks and my FAAB bids, not Chest(who is my league), not Gino Yu. If I want to draft off of an ADP sheet then I may as well just bow out now to the top players, but I feel I have a strong enough grasp of Fantasy Baseball after having played for 20 years that the only person I worry about is myself. So, yes, I am more concerned with what I pick I get because different slots allow for different strategies. Some spots will force me to reach more then others, just as much as a top player might do. I respect yours and the others who agree that who is in your league is more important and I am not going to argue that they are wrong, but having 2 industry experts and 4 gentlemen in the top 60 all-time will only play a small part in my strategy, but my draft slot will play a huge roll in what I do. Sorry that you disagree, but hey, if we all agreed then why would we draft, we could just slot everyone and hand out the consensus picks that we agreed upon.
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Post by Chest Rockwell » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:18 am

Originally posted by Hard Heads:

Cindy having respect for top players as you are sure the Childs, Gillis, Srebro etc do is different then fearing them. I respect them very much and I am new to this, but do I worry about who is in my league, not as much as you do. I control my picks and my FAAB bids, not Chest(who is my league), not Gino Yu. If I want to draft off of an ADP sheet then I may as well just bow out now to the top players, but I feel I have a strong enough grasp of Fantasy Baseball after having played for 20 years that the only person I worry about is myself. So, yes, I am more concerned with what I pick I get because different slots allow for different strategies. Some spots will force me to reach more then others, just as much as a top player might do. I respect yours and the others who agree that who is in your league is more important and I am not going to argue that they are wrong, but having 2 industry experts and 4 gentlemen in the top 60 all-time will only play a small part in my strategy, but my draft slot will play a huge roll in what I do. Sorry that you disagree, but hey, if we all agreed then why would we draft, we could just slot everyone and hand out the consensus picks that we agreed upon. Mark my words a newbie will win a league that has several top 50 lifetime players in it.

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Post by Hard Heads » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:18 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hard Heads:

Cindy having respect for top players as you are sure the Childs, Gillis, Srebro etc do is different then fearing them. I respect them very much and I am new to this, but do I worry about who is in my league, not as much as you do. I control my picks and my FAAB bids, not Chest(who is my league), not Gino Yu. If I want to draft off of an ADP sheet then I may as well just bow out now to the top players, but I feel I have a strong enough grasp of Fantasy Baseball after having played for 20 years that the only person I worry about is myself. So, yes, I am more concerned with what I pick I get because different slots allow for different strategies. Some spots will force me to reach more then others, just as much as a top player might do. I respect yours and the others who agree that who is in your league is more important and I am not going to argue that they are wrong, but having 2 industry experts and 4 gentlemen in the top 60 all-time will only play a small part in my strategy, but my draft slot will play a huge roll in what I do. Sorry that you disagree, but hey, if we all agreed then why would we draft, we could just slot everyone and hand out the consensus picks that we agreed upon. Mark my words a newbie will win a league that has several top 50 lifetime players in it. [/QUOTE]Chest, I am just sorry to inform it you it will be in LV10.
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Post by Chest Rockwell » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:14 am

Originally posted by Hard Heads:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hard Heads:

Cindy having respect for top players as you are sure the Childs, Gillis, Srebro etc do is different then fearing them. I respect them very much and I am new to this, but do I worry about who is in my league, not as much as you do. I control my picks and my FAAB bids, not Chest(who is my league), not Gino Yu. If I want to draft off of an ADP sheet then I may as well just bow out now to the top players, but I feel I have a strong enough grasp of Fantasy Baseball after having played for 20 years that the only person I worry about is myself. So, yes, I am more concerned with what I pick I get because different slots allow for different strategies. Some spots will force me to reach more then others, just as much as a top player might do. I respect yours and the others who agree that who is in your league is more important and I am not going to argue that they are wrong, but having 2 industry experts and 4 gentlemen in the top 60 all-time will only play a small part in my strategy, but my draft slot will play a huge roll in what I do. Sorry that you disagree, but hey, if we all agreed then why would we draft, we could just slot everyone and hand out the consensus picks that we agreed upon. Mark my words a newbie will win a league that has several top 50 lifetime players in it. [/QUOTE]Chest, I am just sorry to inform it you it will be in LV10.
[/QUOTE]My private conversations with you indicate that you have as good of a chance as anyone to be one of those guys. Good luck and look forward to saying hello next weekend.

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Post by NorCalAtlFan » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:33 am

Geez, how stacked is LV League 10??!! Definitely will be an entertaining year.

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Post by eddiejag » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:45 am

Cindy , yes Dettera won the 2006 ultimate and fell a little short last year.About the top players how some fear and some dont care.I have respect for the great players and when go up againest the best in ultimates or auctions i just love the challange.Deterra is the best fantasy player out their that most message board guys have never heard of.He's very modest and doesnt care about any of the glory that comes with fantasy, he just likes to win.A matter of fact when David won the Ultimate he wouldnt send in a picture of himself , i knew Greg wanted the picture of the NY ultimate so i went to Daves house with my son and talked him into taking a picture of him in his Dodgers hat.I sent Greg the picture and now Dave is a part of history.

I have Dave right up their with Childs , DiDonato , and Kenyon.
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Post by CC's Desperados » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:05 am

Cindy, What league and pick do you have?

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Post by Hard Heads » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:15 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hard Heads:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hard Heads:

Cindy having respect for top players as you are sure the Childs, Gillis, Srebro etc do is different then fearing them. I respect them very much and I am new to this, but do I worry about who is in my league, not as much as you do. I control my picks and my FAAB bids, not Chest(who is my league), not Gino Yu. If I want to draft off of an ADP sheet then I may as well just bow out now to the top players, but I feel I have a strong enough grasp of Fantasy Baseball after having played for 20 years that the only person I worry about is myself. So, yes, I am more concerned with what I pick I get because different slots allow for different strategies. Some spots will force me to reach more then others, just as much as a top player might do. I respect yours and the others who agree that who is in your league is more important and I am not going to argue that they are wrong, but having 2 industry experts and 4 gentlemen in the top 60 all-time will only play a small part in my strategy, but my draft slot will play a huge roll in what I do. Sorry that you disagree, but hey, if we all agreed then why would we draft, we could just slot everyone and hand out the consensus picks that we agreed upon. Mark my words a newbie will win a league that has several top 50 lifetime players in it. [/QUOTE]Chest, I am just sorry to inform it you it will be in LV10.
[/QUOTE]My private conversations with you indicate that you have as good of a chance as anyone to be one of those guys. Good luck and look forward to saying hello next weekend.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Chest!

Unless I panic and implode I will compete. I am no "Crazy", but I sure plan on being in it all year.
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