Maybe he himself is Asian and was offended by an antiquated term for his ethnicity. In any event, the PC language may be silly at times, but it's better than ruffling feathers all the time.
Now back to the strategy session.
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In fairness to FPC, a number of my Asian friends would, in fact, take offense to being called "Oriental". Heck, even McDonalds changed their Mandaran Oriental salad to an Asian salad. That should say it all right there.
Maybe he himself is Asian and was offended by an antiquated term for his ethnicity. In any event, the PC language may be silly at times, but it's better than ruffling feathers all the time.
Now back to the strategy session.
Maybe he himself is Asian and was offended by an antiquated term for his ethnicity. In any event, the PC language may be silly at times, but it's better than ruffling feathers all the time.
Now back to the strategy session.
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Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
I dislike everything about political correctness in speech.
Tough love, thick skin...all fading away to wimpy sensitive fem-male programming.
~Lance yup yup! Hey Lance, we have any side bets going this year ??
I dislike everything about political correctness in speech.
Tough love, thick skin...all fading away to wimpy sensitive fem-male programming.
~Lance yup yup! Hey Lance, we have any side bets going this year ??
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Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
I dislike everything about political correctness in speech.
Tough love, thick skin...all fading away to wimpy sensitive fem-male programming.
~Lance Agree 100% Lance!!
I remember when I was in 10th grade (22 years ago) overhearing my gym teacher talking to another gym teacher. He just got a phone call from a parent who was upset, because their son had a bruise on his arm from dodgeball.
Mr. Regan told the other teacher.....
"You know what the problem is nowadays Bobby? We're raising a generation of pus*ies!"
22 years later, as someone who is a teacher, I can tell you it is FAR worse! We actually have some parents that call up and are upset because we don't "praise" the kids enough! :rolleyes:
"Great job bringing your materials to class today Jimmy, here is a cookie!" :rolleyes:
The sad part is that these are the kids that won't be able to do ANYTHING, because they have been told that everything in the world is made up of ice cream and lollipops!
Shoot, don't get me started!
[ March 18, 2008, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]
I dislike everything about political correctness in speech.
Tough love, thick skin...all fading away to wimpy sensitive fem-male programming.
~Lance Agree 100% Lance!!
I remember when I was in 10th grade (22 years ago) overhearing my gym teacher talking to another gym teacher. He just got a phone call from a parent who was upset, because their son had a bruise on his arm from dodgeball.
Mr. Regan told the other teacher.....
"You know what the problem is nowadays Bobby? We're raising a generation of pus*ies!"
22 years later, as someone who is a teacher, I can tell you it is FAR worse! We actually have some parents that call up and are upset because we don't "praise" the kids enough! :rolleyes:
"Great job bringing your materials to class today Jimmy, here is a cookie!" :rolleyes:
The sad part is that these are the kids that won't be able to do ANYTHING, because they have been told that everything in the world is made up of ice cream and lollipops!
Shoot, don't get me started!
[ March 18, 2008, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]
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Originally posted by headhunters:
another great post by sports betting man- no wonder you drink- you live in california and hate the pc police. you are welcome in chicago. trust me- i have no african american friends- just black ones- and they are fine with it. they can call me chalk all they want. if chase is black- can he steal 45? Can I come to Chicago and hang out with you when you refer to your black friends as 'coloreds'?
Not apples to apples.
I'm anything but pc and this entire situation is hilarious to me but I think you can be more sensitive to this based on where you live. And I speak of being in a place with a high population of Asians rather than a pc place. That is to say if I was on a date with an Asian chick and I referred to her as 'oriental' I think it'd go over about as well as the movie date from Taxi Driver. So you get used to correct terms. If you live in a place without much diversity you revert to your childhood terms. So it doesn't play well on a message board.
another great post by sports betting man- no wonder you drink- you live in california and hate the pc police. you are welcome in chicago. trust me- i have no african american friends- just black ones- and they are fine with it. they can call me chalk all they want. if chase is black- can he steal 45? Can I come to Chicago and hang out with you when you refer to your black friends as 'coloreds'?
Not apples to apples.
I'm anything but pc and this entire situation is hilarious to me but I think you can be more sensitive to this based on where you live. And I speak of being in a place with a high population of Asians rather than a pc place. That is to say if I was on a date with an Asian chick and I referred to her as 'oriental' I think it'd go over about as well as the movie date from Taxi Driver. So you get used to correct terms. If you live in a place without much diversity you revert to your childhood terms. So it doesn't play well on a message board.
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bjoak- here is a tip: you are actually agreeing with me. chicago is very diverse. the pc police are everywhere. you either roll over or you repectfully disagree. people on television get ripped all the time- it is sad. i read where geraldine ferraro got in trouble. i call that justice. 20 years ago she was at front of the line as a pcv cop. her apology said " not the way i meant it" hey- the people she blasted didn't mean it that way either- didn't matter- she took them to the wood shed. if my black friends couldn't call me chalk and i couldn't call them black- we wouldn't be friends. and guess what- many black people aren't african american. the liberal african americans do not speak for the majority of black people. the majority are worried about jobs, education, retirement- sort of like the rest of us. peace.
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by the way bjoak- they never did want to be "coloreds". black was and is a source of pride- "black like me" get it correct. geez
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Chicago 3 – pick #12. KDS second preference, after Arod as the first. The thinking was that Santana could be there and while hating taking pitching before the fifth, at 12 I thought Santana had too much value to pass on. This KDS I thought was a good position to grab an ACE in the fifth if I didn’t have Santana. So the plan was to take a top hitter and if none were there grab Santana. I was hoping that hitter would be Braun. Crawford was still there and with only three teams between me and the turn and two complained that their slot was near least preference, I hoped that Santana would return to me. My plan for Crawford start was Ortiz in the second, but the headhunters (pick 14) took both Santana and Ortiz. My plan for the Santana start was Upton which didn’t look as good with Crawford, but I liked the dual position option and liked his upside. Took almost the whole minute but figured not chasing steals the whole draft would allow me to grab one of my targeted mid-round speedsters after planned pick. Third Round was looking for BA and not worrying about steals, so I was very happy when I realized that I would get either Atkins or Mags. In the fourth I went with my second pair of teammates Guillen, a second dual positional MI, who hit tracker showed only hitting one “just enough” HR last year. I really like that my top two MI are playing less demanding positions.
In the fifth I was hoping to get an ACE to drop (didn’t happen) or my man-crush Mauer (also didn’t happen). Even with projecting Chipper to get regular time off and a DL trip, I thought his BA and Power was the best option and one of the upper tier RP would slip back to me in the sixth. That didn’t happen and while the RP were going off the board I started to regret the Chipper pick as I knew that now that he was on my team that he would miss half the season. So in the sixth I was debating Delmon Young, Zimmerman and Chris Young (SP) who had been slipping to me in mocks to the seventh. Grabbed Zimmerman, an ironman.
After six rounds I had ZERO pitchers. Plan was balance. At least three pitchers in top 10, 6 after 16 including 2 RP. So I wanted to grab a pitcher and since IMO all the top tier RP were gone it would be a SP. Delmon Young was still there and I couldn’t pass. Santana plan included coming back with seven hitters (Damon & Hamilton in the 7/8) so I figured all I needed was an eight round SP to outperform Santana. That pick: AJ Burnett. OK I don’t think that AJ will get 32 starts let alone win the AL CY, but at least I had a SP. Grabbed Sorinao as my #1 Closer and took my targeted #2 SP in Bonderman.
Being behind in Pitching went with Jered Weaver and Lilly, then the old style one hitter/one pitcher each turn. Figure that I had four number 3 starters and my league was skewed as Arod team had four SP in first six rounds 
, along with the Santana start following up with Harang and Gallardo.
Looking at my sixteenth round plan, I thought it needed to go from 10 hitters/6 pitchers to 9/7. So I added Rowand and Delgado to my hitters and Gorzelanny & B Wilson to my staff.
I was without a Catcher and was looking at Doumit and Navorra as a second around the 19/20 turn. However, I didn’t want to count on both – thus B Molina. B for Best.
My end game targets – 1B Dan Johnson, 2B Jose Lopez, SS – Crosby, 3B – Chavez OF, Gomes & Wilkerson - looked like I would need the weakest link (Johnson) most with my current roster (Delgado is no longer a sure 30+ HR guy) so I went after the best available 1B – Jacobs.
I had targets of Justin Upton/ Milledge/Patterson/Carlos Gomes as OF at each turn, but with four already rosters waited till the C Gomes (hoping for Hram type rookie year) as I never saw the earlier ones slip.
Filled out pitching under the Santana plan – good skill sets yet poor recent track history. Minn pair of Bonser and Slowey National pair Patterson and S. Hill. Hoped for some bounce back to former glory from Barry Zito (Oh where has that curveball gone?).
Filled the MI with targets Crosby & Lopez. G Anderson is the only OF bench, hopefully those dual position guys will allow me to roster on short offensive bench as I search for that third closers as Matt Lindstrom is my current wild azz hope.
OH and I ended the draft taking the 30th (or later) catcher in Iannetta.
Shandler said something about them not being important – we’ll see.
PS I also Maxed out the allowable graemlins in this post.
[ March 18, 2008, 10:20 AM: Message edited by: Sheep ]
In the fifth I was hoping to get an ACE to drop (didn’t happen) or my man-crush Mauer (also didn’t happen). Even with projecting Chipper to get regular time off and a DL trip, I thought his BA and Power was the best option and one of the upper tier RP would slip back to me in the sixth. That didn’t happen and while the RP were going off the board I started to regret the Chipper pick as I knew that now that he was on my team that he would miss half the season. So in the sixth I was debating Delmon Young, Zimmerman and Chris Young (SP) who had been slipping to me in mocks to the seventh. Grabbed Zimmerman, an ironman.
After six rounds I had ZERO pitchers. Plan was balance. At least three pitchers in top 10, 6 after 16 including 2 RP. So I wanted to grab a pitcher and since IMO all the top tier RP were gone it would be a SP. Delmon Young was still there and I couldn’t pass. Santana plan included coming back with seven hitters (Damon & Hamilton in the 7/8) so I figured all I needed was an eight round SP to outperform Santana. That pick: AJ Burnett. OK I don’t think that AJ will get 32 starts let alone win the AL CY, but at least I had a SP. Grabbed Sorinao as my #1 Closer and took my targeted #2 SP in Bonderman.
Being behind in Pitching went with Jered Weaver
and Lilly, then the old style one hitter/one pitcher each turn. Figure that I had four number 3 starters and my league was skewed as Arod team had four SP in first six rounds 
, along with the Santana start following up with Harang and Gallardo. Looking at my sixteenth round plan, I thought it needed to go from 10 hitters/6 pitchers to 9/7. So I added Rowand and Delgado to my hitters and Gorzelanny & B Wilson to my staff.
I was without a Catcher and was looking at Doumit and Navorra as a second around the 19/20 turn. However, I didn’t want to count on both – thus B Molina. B for Best.
My end game targets – 1B Dan Johnson, 2B Jose Lopez, SS – Crosby, 3B – Chavez OF, Gomes & Wilkerson - looked like I would need the weakest link (Johnson) most with my current roster (Delgado is no longer a sure 30+ HR guy) so I went after the best available 1B – Jacobs.
I had targets of Justin Upton/ Milledge/Patterson/Carlos Gomes as OF at each turn, but with four already rosters waited till the C Gomes (hoping for Hram type rookie year) as I never saw the earlier ones slip.
Filled out pitching under the Santana plan – good skill sets yet poor recent track history. Minn pair of Bonser and Slowey National pair Patterson and S. Hill. Hoped for some bounce back to former glory from Barry Zito (Oh where has that curveball gone?).
Filled the MI with targets Crosby & Lopez. G Anderson is the only OF bench, hopefully those dual position guys will allow me to roster on short offensive bench as I search for that third closers as Matt Lindstrom is my current wild azz hope.
OH and I ended the draft taking the 30th (or later) catcher in Iannetta.
Shandler said something about them not being important – we’ll see. PS I also Maxed out the allowable graemlins in this post.
[ March 18, 2008, 10:20 AM: Message edited by: Sheep ]
Main C3-pick#12 Crawford/Upton/Mags/Guillen/Chipper/Zimmerman/Del Young
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So, we just get in to Vegas late Friday night, my wife, grandson age 7, and I. I believe it's one in the a.m. The grandson has been sick in the car for most of the day on the drive from Phoenix.
We hit the lights of Vegas and he wakes out of his sleep and says he's hungry, music to our ears, a sign that his sickness is over.
We head into the nearest buffet and start walking the line. I'm carrying him as he's still a little groggy, his face over my shoulder facing my back. All of a sudden he rears his head up and exclaims, "Papa, look how big that black guy is!!" I did not want to turn around. My mind started racing, he's seven, he's only seen a black person on tv, but mostly, how big is this guy and am I gonna be alive for the draft tomorrow?
I passed our grandson to my wife and turned around. In front of me was one of the biggest weight lifters I had seen in my life, not a body builder, a weight lifter, looked like he frequented that buffet about five times a day. He was white. He was wearing a black shirt that would be a nightshirt, even for me. He smiled, I sighed. Just seem to fit this thread. Carry on.
We hit the lights of Vegas and he wakes out of his sleep and says he's hungry, music to our ears, a sign that his sickness is over.
We head into the nearest buffet and start walking the line. I'm carrying him as he's still a little groggy, his face over my shoulder facing my back. All of a sudden he rears his head up and exclaims, "Papa, look how big that black guy is!!" I did not want to turn around. My mind started racing, he's seven, he's only seen a black person on tv, but mostly, how big is this guy and am I gonna be alive for the draft tomorrow?
I passed our grandson to my wife and turned around. In front of me was one of the biggest weight lifters I had seen in my life, not a body builder, a weight lifter, looked like he frequented that buffet about five times a day. He was white. He was wearing a black shirt that would be a nightshirt, even for me. He smiled, I sighed. Just seem to fit this thread. Carry on.
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Originally posted by headhunters:
by the way bjoak- they never did want to be "coloreds". black was and is a source of pride- "black like me" get it correct. geez Just making the point that 'black' is not to 'Afro-American' as 'oriental' is to 'Asian'. It is certainly closer to 'colored' than 'black'.
by the way bjoak- they never did want to be "coloreds". black was and is a source of pride- "black like me" get it correct. geez Just making the point that 'black' is not to 'Afro-American' as 'oriental' is to 'Asian'. It is certainly closer to 'colored' than 'black'.
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Originally posted by King of Queens:
In fairness to FPC, a number of my Asian friends would, in fact, take offense to being called "Oriental". Heck, even McDonalds changed their Mandaran Oriental salad to an Asian salad. That should say it all right there.
Maybe he himself is Asian and was offended by an antiquated term for his ethnicity. In any event, the PC language may be silly at times, but it's better than ruffling feathers all the time.
Now back to the strategy session.
Technically "Oriental" is anything of, or from the Orient. I used the term before and had to prove the previous sentence to the person.
I do know, my rug gets pi$$ed everytime I refer to it as Oriental
In fairness to FPC, a number of my Asian friends would, in fact, take offense to being called "Oriental". Heck, even McDonalds changed their Mandaran Oriental salad to an Asian salad. That should say it all right there.
Maybe he himself is Asian and was offended by an antiquated term for his ethnicity. In any event, the PC language may be silly at times, but it's better than ruffling feathers all the time.
Now back to the strategy session.
Technically "Oriental" is anything of, or from the Orient. I used the term before and had to prove the previous sentence to the person.I do know, my rug gets pi$$ed everytime I refer to it as Oriental
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Originally posted by bjoak:
quote:Originally posted by headhunters:
by the way bjoak- they never did want to be "coloreds". black was and is a source of pride- "black like me" get it correct. geez Just making the point that 'black' is not to 'Afro-American' as 'oriental' is to 'Asian'. It is certainly closer to 'colored' than 'black'. [/QUOTE]Very well said.
quote:Originally posted by headhunters:
by the way bjoak- they never did want to be "coloreds". black was and is a source of pride- "black like me" get it correct. geez Just making the point that 'black' is not to 'Afro-American' as 'oriental' is to 'Asian'. It is certainly closer to 'colored' than 'black'. [/QUOTE]Very well said.
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Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:
So, we just get in to Vegas late Friday night, my wife, grandson age 7, and I. I believe it's one in the a.m. The grandson has been sick in the car for most of the day on the drive from Phoenix.
We hit the lights of Vegas and he wakes out of his sleep and says he's hungry, music to our ears, a sign that his sickness is over.
We head into the nearest buffet and start walking the line. I'm carrying him as he's still a little groggy, his face over my shoulder facing my back. All of a sudden he rears his head up and exclaims, "Papa, look how big that black guy is!!" I did not want to turn around. My mind started racing, he's seven, he's only seen a black person on tv, but mostly, how big is this guy and am I gonna be alive for the draft tomorrow?
I passed our grandson to my wife and turned around. In front of me was one of the biggest weight lifters I had seen in my life, not a body builder, a weight lifter, looked like he frequented that buffet about five times a day. He was white. He was wearing a black shirt that would be a nightshirt, even for me. He smiled, I sighed. Just seem to fit this thread. Carry on. You mean you didn't say "Mister, quit scaring my grandson or I am gonna have to take you outside and teach you a LESSON!"
So, we just get in to Vegas late Friday night, my wife, grandson age 7, and I. I believe it's one in the a.m. The grandson has been sick in the car for most of the day on the drive from Phoenix.
We hit the lights of Vegas and he wakes out of his sleep and says he's hungry, music to our ears, a sign that his sickness is over.
We head into the nearest buffet and start walking the line. I'm carrying him as he's still a little groggy, his face over my shoulder facing my back. All of a sudden he rears his head up and exclaims, "Papa, look how big that black guy is!!" I did not want to turn around. My mind started racing, he's seven, he's only seen a black person on tv, but mostly, how big is this guy and am I gonna be alive for the draft tomorrow?
I passed our grandson to my wife and turned around. In front of me was one of the biggest weight lifters I had seen in my life, not a body builder, a weight lifter, looked like he frequented that buffet about five times a day. He was white. He was wearing a black shirt that would be a nightshirt, even for me. He smiled, I sighed. Just seem to fit this thread. Carry on. You mean you didn't say "Mister, quit scaring my grandson or I am gonna have to take you outside and teach you a LESSON!"
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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doughboys- i thought you were gonna say cc sabathia was standing behind you and said " i am big but i am hispanic , not black, and don't take me in the draft because i am fat and i will regress". now that would fit this thread.
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Originally posted by headhunters:
doughboys- i thought you were gonna say cc sabathia was standing behind you and said " i am big but i am hispanic , not black, and don't take me in the draft because i am fat and i will regress". now that would fit this thread. fat isn't pc....I believe it's "big-boned" at least that's what we tell the children nowadays.
Why even use labels at all??...I actually hate using the term black, white, Christian, etc.....
doughboys- i thought you were gonna say cc sabathia was standing behind you and said " i am big but i am hispanic , not black, and don't take me in the draft because i am fat and i will regress". now that would fit this thread. fat isn't pc....I believe it's "big-boned" at least that's what we tell the children nowadays.
Why even use labels at all??...I actually hate using the term black, white, Christian, etc.....
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OK, you knew I could not resist, so I will dive in on the latest installment of "How I Contribute $1300 to my Friends and Neighbors on an Annual Basis".
Outside of my two hours of pre-draft Zen-like mantra "Don't fxxx up...don't fxxx up!", my draft strategy basically had four main components. First, keep the notes simple. I had all my batters on one 11x17 page and all my pitchers on another. I did end up tracking against an ADP listing too, but only did that as long as I had time.
Second was go for the guys in contract years. I know I always consider that, but it really was a focus this year. Worked pretty good because I ended up with seven out of my probable starting 23 in contract years.
Third, let some of the picks come to me. If I like a guy, go get him, but when you think there is value, grab him and adjust your draft after that if you need to.
Finally, try for balance (i.e. not all Punch or all Judy). I ended up 3 for 4 because I did not get the balance. I guess I just love those Punchy players.
Per my earlier string, I was really torn up about whether to take Utley or Cabrera at 7. If Holliday made it to me, he trumped but Holliday went 6. The night before the draft I changed my mind because of the "balance" theory and selected Utley because he will steal a dozen more than MC. Though he may not steal anymore, Round 2 brought me Vladdy with the 9th pick and I couldn't be happier. I started to fall off the wagon in the third with AmRam (Mr. Punch), but I am liking my power base at this time. Fourth I went with Abreu. I liked this pick here (limited power though) and he is in a contract year. I thought I had a shot at Webb as my pitching anchor, but Ira and Son (I think) took care of that, but I landed K-Rod, then Kazmir to anchor my staff. Seven and eight I think were a bit of a gift. I should draw 65+ HR from the Hawpe/Dye combo I grabbed. Now my OF is looking slow, but powerful. Nine was my second starter in Myers. I never pronounce his name right and I do not want to offend, so I will just type real slow to make sure I spell it right...J-O-H-J-I-M-A. Whew! I got a catcher in a contract year.
I was in position to concentrate on CM, MI and SP (the remaining closers were were too iffy for me) and maybe a Judy in case I actually want more than one point out of SB. I ended up with six bats (Blalock 11 - Contract Year, C. Jackson 13, O. Hudson 15 - Contract Year, R. Hernandez 16, DeJesus 19, and Freel 20), and four pitchers (Penny 12 - Contract Year, Greinke 14, Buehrle 17 and Baker 18). I hate the Freel pick, but felt it was the only sour pick of the bunch, so not too bad. Unless Freel is handed the starting leadoff role, I can pretty much kiss SB goodbye.
Rounding out the starters with Y. Betancourt 21, Bonser 22, and Wolf 23, I was looking at a slow team short on Saves. I did pick up Fukumori, so with all due respects to my friend Chest, I may have my second closer soon. If not, I will be fighting with Clum over the rest of the pickin's. Correia and Eveland (my Tom Lord pick) give me some more interesting options if Wolf, Bonser or Buehrle tank (a possibility). I have also Tracy 29, Broussard 24, and D. Young 30. Depending on role, all three could easily contribute. Keppinger 28 rounds out the team.
What I see is good power, great average, good runs and above the mark RBI's (especially if I tank steals). On pitching, I have no real concerns as I think I will get a second closer and my starters are solid to above average arms.
My only wish is that I had bit the bullet for a starter with speed, but I just waited too long (i.e. I can get Furcal in the NEXT round). That may just be enough in this tough league (Orlando #1) to keep my view from never changing.
[ March 18, 2008, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]
Outside of my two hours of pre-draft Zen-like mantra "Don't fxxx up...don't fxxx up!", my draft strategy basically had four main components. First, keep the notes simple. I had all my batters on one 11x17 page and all my pitchers on another. I did end up tracking against an ADP listing too, but only did that as long as I had time.
Second was go for the guys in contract years. I know I always consider that, but it really was a focus this year. Worked pretty good because I ended up with seven out of my probable starting 23 in contract years.
Third, let some of the picks come to me. If I like a guy, go get him, but when you think there is value, grab him and adjust your draft after that if you need to.
Finally, try for balance (i.e. not all Punch or all Judy). I ended up 3 for 4 because I did not get the balance. I guess I just love those Punchy players.
Per my earlier string, I was really torn up about whether to take Utley or Cabrera at 7. If Holliday made it to me, he trumped but Holliday went 6. The night before the draft I changed my mind because of the "balance" theory and selected Utley because he will steal a dozen more than MC. Though he may not steal anymore, Round 2 brought me Vladdy with the 9th pick and I couldn't be happier. I started to fall off the wagon in the third with AmRam (Mr. Punch), but I am liking my power base at this time. Fourth I went with Abreu. I liked this pick here (limited power though) and he is in a contract year. I thought I had a shot at Webb as my pitching anchor, but Ira and Son (I think) took care of that, but I landed K-Rod, then Kazmir to anchor my staff. Seven and eight I think were a bit of a gift. I should draw 65+ HR from the Hawpe/Dye combo I grabbed. Now my OF is looking slow, but powerful. Nine was my second starter in Myers. I never pronounce his name right and I do not want to offend, so I will just type real slow to make sure I spell it right...J-O-H-J-I-M-A. Whew! I got a catcher in a contract year.
I was in position to concentrate on CM, MI and SP (the remaining closers were were too iffy for me) and maybe a Judy in case I actually want more than one point out of SB. I ended up with six bats (Blalock 11 - Contract Year, C. Jackson 13, O. Hudson 15 - Contract Year, R. Hernandez 16, DeJesus 19, and Freel 20), and four pitchers (Penny 12 - Contract Year, Greinke 14, Buehrle 17 and Baker 18). I hate the Freel pick, but felt it was the only sour pick of the bunch, so not too bad. Unless Freel is handed the starting leadoff role, I can pretty much kiss SB goodbye.
Rounding out the starters with Y. Betancourt 21, Bonser 22, and Wolf 23, I was looking at a slow team short on Saves. I did pick up Fukumori, so with all due respects to my friend Chest, I may have my second closer soon. If not, I will be fighting with Clum over the rest of the pickin's. Correia and Eveland (my Tom Lord pick) give me some more interesting options if Wolf, Bonser or Buehrle tank (a possibility). I have also Tracy 29, Broussard 24, and D. Young 30. Depending on role, all three could easily contribute. Keppinger 28 rounds out the team.
What I see is good power, great average, good runs and above the mark RBI's (especially if I tank steals). On pitching, I have no real concerns as I think I will get a second closer and my starters are solid to above average arms.
My only wish is that I had bit the bullet for a starter with speed, but I just waited too long (i.e. I can get Furcal in the NEXT round). That may just be enough in this tough league (Orlando #1) to keep my view from never changing.
[ March 18, 2008, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]
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Originally posted by headhunters:
dear dave- 2 questions for my buddy the new draft guru. since i drafted satana at 14 and carl crawford went 12 in our draft- how did you "know" braun was coming to you at 12 after pick 9? second- if you draft 12 aren't there 6 picks between your odd and even picks? did you think there were 3 the whole draft? did that help or hurt you? are you concerned that braun is going to be dl'ed? thanks. just giving you a little s..t. btw- ltd is another tall player. i think with him and vander we have 2 forwards for our chicago basketball team. hahahaha.. I do love basketball... although I prefer Guard
No, I didn't KNOW Braun was going to come to me, it just seemed he was DESTINED to.. aka I prayed real hard that he would.
Yes, there are 6 picks between.. I got mixed up since I drafted out of the 2 hole in the Super Draft (more recent) and got confused... no, taking Kendrick where I took him didn't hurt me... all of the other top tier 2B went quickly and there was a big dropoff to the next one on my list (Kelly Johnson) so I took Kendrick in the 5th instead of the 6th. I wanted Chris Young the pitcher in the 6th and there were tons of SP still left... unlike your league where he probably went in like the 3rd round hahahaha
Why would Braun be DL'd...?
dear dave- 2 questions for my buddy the new draft guru. since i drafted satana at 14 and carl crawford went 12 in our draft- how did you "know" braun was coming to you at 12 after pick 9? second- if you draft 12 aren't there 6 picks between your odd and even picks? did you think there were 3 the whole draft? did that help or hurt you? are you concerned that braun is going to be dl'ed? thanks. just giving you a little s..t. btw- ltd is another tall player. i think with him and vander we have 2 forwards for our chicago basketball team. hahahaha.. I do love basketball... although I prefer Guard
No, I didn't KNOW Braun was going to come to me, it just seemed he was DESTINED to.. aka I prayed real hard that he would.
Yes, there are 6 picks between.. I got mixed up since I drafted out of the 2 hole in the Super Draft (more recent) and got confused... no, taking Kendrick where I took him didn't hurt me... all of the other top tier 2B went quickly and there was a big dropoff to the next one on my list (Kelly Johnson) so I took Kendrick in the 5th instead of the 6th. I wanted Chris Young the pitcher in the 6th and there were tons of SP still left... unlike your league where he probably went in like the 3rd round hahahaha
Why would Braun be DL'd...?
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Originally posted by Less than Dave:
"I wanted to take risks I wanted my guys here. Pitching wise I wanted Corpas, Billingsley, Mcgowan, and one of James Shields, Maine or Rich Hill. Hitters I wanted were Gordon, Encarnacion, Ellsbury, Francouer, and Billy Butler."
Well Kent, looks like we value a lot of the same players... I absolutely LOVE Rich Hill, and also really like Maine, Billingsley, Gordon, Francouer, Butler, Ellsbury, and McGowan (to a degree). I think Shields is great, but not where he usually goes.
Anyways, at pick 12, my plan was to pray to the fantasy gods that Ryan Braun somehow falls to my team (even though the latest he went in the last batch of satellites was 11). Then I was fairly certain BJ Upton would be there in the 2nd. After that, I had several targets in each round, but keeping in mind that I had to be flexible depending on what the draft gave me. You gotta be willing to adapt to your draft - if you don't, you get burned and get on the wrong ends of runs and/or miss out on good value picks.
My draft was... interesting. AROD, Hanley, and Wright went first, as usual, but then Rollins went at 4 and I knew it was going to get interesting. After Rollins, Reyes went followed by Utley. Then Fielder! This threw everyone off I think, but obviously the next 2 guys took Holliday and Cabrera and were ecstatic. Well, by this time I knew I was destined to get Braun. Santana went at 10, then Crawford at 11. With a huge beaming smile I took Braun at 12.
It got crazier after that. Following Braun was Soriano, then Sizemore, then Russell Martin. Phillips went first pick of the 2nd round, then Peavy. Ok, I can still get Upton. Nope, he goes at the pick in front of me. CRAP! But wait... what the..?!? RYAN HOWARD is still there in the 2nd round! In shock, I take Howard and smile. This totally changes my draft strategy as now I need to focus on speed, but so what, you gotta go with the flow of the draft and take what it gives you.
So I take Figgins in the 3rd and Furcal in the 4th to get some speed (Furcal was key because he is one of the very few top tier SS out there.. and he can steal) I don't know about other drafts, but speed went FAST in ours. Bourn went 6th round, Ellsbury went 7th round.. CRAZY.
My other strategy was to draft a few high batting average guys (and avoid low batting average guys also if possible) because you can pick up steals or homers off the waiver wire, but you can't easily makeup average. I picked Howie Kendrick in the 5th (early, but last remaining "top tier 2B" left in my opinion and he wouldn't make it back to me in the 7th). I say 7th round because my 5th and 6th round picks are 3 picks away from each other and I knew my 6th round pick wasn't getting taken there, so I took Kendrick first. He should really boost my team average. After that, I picked my favorite SP this year- Chris Young (top 5 I think). 7th round, Matt Kemp was still there.. was planning to go SP there, but couldn't pass him up so I grabbed him. 8th round I took my boy Rich Hill. Very pleased.
No closers yet and approaching the pick 130-150 closer run. I take Corpas in the 9th round to make sure I get one solid closer. Back to starting pitching, as I missed out on the Maine/Billingsley/Ollie/Lincecum/Gallardo group. Next best on my list was McGowan (although Pedro was tempting) so I take him in the 10th. 11th round I take Clay Buchholz hoping Jered Weaver makes it back to me. He didn't. I took Soria as my 2nd closer there in the 12th instead. Works for me. Wigginton was still there in the 13th, so I took him for his 2B/3B flexibility (might move Braun to OF anyhow).
Now, I knew the target area for the catchers I liked was rounds 13-15, and I wanted to make sure I got 2 solid catchers as I think that's a HUGE plus if you don't have a waste of space catcher. I took Ramon Hernandez and Towles in rounds 14 and 15 and was very happy. The draft always leaves plenty of good SP and OF for the late rounds, so I make sure to fill out my positional players first. Now it's time to start looking for those young up-and-comers who I think will make a big difference for me this year as well as some solid backups. I ended up with Billy Butler, Chris Duncan, Ian Kennedy, Matt Diaz, Colby Rasmus, Kevin Slowey, Franklin Gutierrez, David Eckstein, Dave Roberts, Carlos Villanueva, Clayton Kershaw, Brian Bannister, Scott Hairston, Anthony Reyes, and Dana Eveland.
I couldn't have planned for a better draft. I was absolutely ecstatic. Here's my final roster:
C R. Hernandez
C JR Towles
1B R. Howard
2B H. Kendrick
SS R. Furcal
3B R. Braun
CI C. Figgins
MI T. Wigginton
OF M. Kemp
OF C. Duncan
OF M. Diaz
OF D. Roberts
OF F. Gutierrez
DH B. Butler
P C. Young
P R. Hill
P D. McGowan
P C. Buchholz
P I. Kennedy
P K. Slowey
P C. Villanueva
P M. Corpas
P J. Soria
B C. Rasmus
B D. Eckstein
B S. Hairston
B D. Eveland
B A. Reyes
B B. Bannister
B C. Kershaw
I'd also like to say it was an absolute pleasure to meet all of you in Chicago. Especially: Sheep, Nord, Bobby J, Chris, Dave (Darth Vander), and of course seein my buddy Mike again. We had great people there and it was a blast. I'm really surprised you drafted Braun- Kemp and targeted Upton. You just posted that article last week for us to read about how Braun, Kemp, and Upton had problems with CT % and were destined to be drafted too early.
"I wanted to take risks I wanted my guys here. Pitching wise I wanted Corpas, Billingsley, Mcgowan, and one of James Shields, Maine or Rich Hill. Hitters I wanted were Gordon, Encarnacion, Ellsbury, Francouer, and Billy Butler."
Well Kent, looks like we value a lot of the same players... I absolutely LOVE Rich Hill, and also really like Maine, Billingsley, Gordon, Francouer, Butler, Ellsbury, and McGowan (to a degree). I think Shields is great, but not where he usually goes.
Anyways, at pick 12, my plan was to pray to the fantasy gods that Ryan Braun somehow falls to my team (even though the latest he went in the last batch of satellites was 11). Then I was fairly certain BJ Upton would be there in the 2nd. After that, I had several targets in each round, but keeping in mind that I had to be flexible depending on what the draft gave me. You gotta be willing to adapt to your draft - if you don't, you get burned and get on the wrong ends of runs and/or miss out on good value picks.
My draft was... interesting. AROD, Hanley, and Wright went first, as usual, but then Rollins went at 4 and I knew it was going to get interesting. After Rollins, Reyes went followed by Utley. Then Fielder! This threw everyone off I think, but obviously the next 2 guys took Holliday and Cabrera and were ecstatic. Well, by this time I knew I was destined to get Braun. Santana went at 10, then Crawford at 11. With a huge beaming smile I took Braun at 12.
It got crazier after that. Following Braun was Soriano, then Sizemore, then Russell Martin. Phillips went first pick of the 2nd round, then Peavy. Ok, I can still get Upton. Nope, he goes at the pick in front of me. CRAP! But wait... what the..?!? RYAN HOWARD is still there in the 2nd round! In shock, I take Howard and smile. This totally changes my draft strategy as now I need to focus on speed, but so what, you gotta go with the flow of the draft and take what it gives you.
So I take Figgins in the 3rd and Furcal in the 4th to get some speed (Furcal was key because he is one of the very few top tier SS out there.. and he can steal) I don't know about other drafts, but speed went FAST in ours. Bourn went 6th round, Ellsbury went 7th round.. CRAZY.
My other strategy was to draft a few high batting average guys (and avoid low batting average guys also if possible) because you can pick up steals or homers off the waiver wire, but you can't easily makeup average. I picked Howie Kendrick in the 5th (early, but last remaining "top tier 2B" left in my opinion and he wouldn't make it back to me in the 7th). I say 7th round because my 5th and 6th round picks are 3 picks away from each other and I knew my 6th round pick wasn't getting taken there, so I took Kendrick first. He should really boost my team average. After that, I picked my favorite SP this year- Chris Young (top 5 I think). 7th round, Matt Kemp was still there.. was planning to go SP there, but couldn't pass him up so I grabbed him. 8th round I took my boy Rich Hill. Very pleased.
No closers yet and approaching the pick 130-150 closer run. I take Corpas in the 9th round to make sure I get one solid closer. Back to starting pitching, as I missed out on the Maine/Billingsley/Ollie/Lincecum/Gallardo group. Next best on my list was McGowan (although Pedro was tempting) so I take him in the 10th. 11th round I take Clay Buchholz hoping Jered Weaver makes it back to me. He didn't. I took Soria as my 2nd closer there in the 12th instead. Works for me. Wigginton was still there in the 13th, so I took him for his 2B/3B flexibility (might move Braun to OF anyhow).
Now, I knew the target area for the catchers I liked was rounds 13-15, and I wanted to make sure I got 2 solid catchers as I think that's a HUGE plus if you don't have a waste of space catcher. I took Ramon Hernandez and Towles in rounds 14 and 15 and was very happy. The draft always leaves plenty of good SP and OF for the late rounds, so I make sure to fill out my positional players first. Now it's time to start looking for those young up-and-comers who I think will make a big difference for me this year as well as some solid backups. I ended up with Billy Butler, Chris Duncan, Ian Kennedy, Matt Diaz, Colby Rasmus, Kevin Slowey, Franklin Gutierrez, David Eckstein, Dave Roberts, Carlos Villanueva, Clayton Kershaw, Brian Bannister, Scott Hairston, Anthony Reyes, and Dana Eveland.
I couldn't have planned for a better draft. I was absolutely ecstatic. Here's my final roster:
C R. Hernandez
C JR Towles
1B R. Howard
2B H. Kendrick
SS R. Furcal
3B R. Braun
CI C. Figgins
MI T. Wigginton
OF M. Kemp
OF C. Duncan
OF M. Diaz
OF D. Roberts
OF F. Gutierrez
DH B. Butler
P C. Young
P R. Hill
P D. McGowan
P C. Buchholz
P I. Kennedy
P K. Slowey
P C. Villanueva
P M. Corpas
P J. Soria
B C. Rasmus
B D. Eckstein
B S. Hairston
B D. Eveland
B A. Reyes
B B. Bannister
B C. Kershaw
I'd also like to say it was an absolute pleasure to meet all of you in Chicago. Especially: Sheep, Nord, Bobby J, Chris, Dave (Darth Vander), and of course seein my buddy Mike again. We had great people there and it was a blast. I'm really surprised you drafted Braun- Kemp and targeted Upton. You just posted that article last week for us to read about how Braun, Kemp, and Upton had problems with CT % and were destined to be drafted too early.
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I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged.
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged.
A man with a plan
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. I hate it when GM's don't subscribe to Shandler
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. I hate it when GM's don't subscribe to Shandler
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Originally posted by Red Sox Nation:
quote:Originally posted by Less than Dave:
"I wanted to take risks I wanted my guys here. Pitching wise I wanted Corpas, Billingsley, Mcgowan, and one of James Shields, Maine or Rich Hill. Hitters I wanted were Gordon, Encarnacion, Ellsbury, Francouer, and Billy Butler."
Well Kent, looks like we value a lot of the same players... I absolutely LOVE Rich Hill, and also really like Maine, Billingsley, Gordon, Francouer, Butler, Ellsbury, and McGowan (to a degree). I think Shields is great, but not where he usually goes.
Anyways, at pick 12, my plan was to pray to the fantasy gods that Ryan Braun somehow falls to my team (even though the latest he went in the last batch of satellites was 11). Then I was fairly certain BJ Upton would be there in the 2nd. After that, I had several targets in each round, but keeping in mind that I had to be flexible depending on what the draft gave me. You gotta be willing to adapt to your draft - if you don't, you get burned and get on the wrong ends of runs and/or miss out on good value picks.
My draft was... interesting. AROD, Hanley, and Wright went first, as usual, but then Rollins went at 4 and I knew it was going to get interesting. After Rollins, Reyes went followed by Utley. Then Fielder! This threw everyone off I think, but obviously the next 2 guys took Holliday and Cabrera and were ecstatic. Well, by this time I knew I was destined to get Braun. Santana went at 10, then Crawford at 11. With a huge beaming smile I took Braun at 12.
It got crazier after that. Following Braun was Soriano, then Sizemore, then Russell Martin. Phillips went first pick of the 2nd round, then Peavy. Ok, I can still get Upton. Nope, he goes at the pick in front of me. CRAP! But wait... what the..?!? RYAN HOWARD is still there in the 2nd round! In shock, I take Howard and smile. This totally changes my draft strategy as now I need to focus on speed, but so what, you gotta go with the flow of the draft and take what it gives you.
So I take Figgins in the 3rd and Furcal in the 4th to get some speed (Furcal was key because he is one of the very few top tier SS out there.. and he can steal) I don't know about other drafts, but speed went FAST in ours. Bourn went 6th round, Ellsbury went 7th round.. CRAZY.
My other strategy was to draft a few high batting average guys (and avoid low batting average guys also if possible) because you can pick up steals or homers off the waiver wire, but you can't easily makeup average. I picked Howie Kendrick in the 5th (early, but last remaining "top tier 2B" left in my opinion and he wouldn't make it back to me in the 7th). I say 7th round because my 5th and 6th round picks are 3 picks away from each other and I knew my 6th round pick wasn't getting taken there, so I took Kendrick first. He should really boost my team average. After that, I picked my favorite SP this year- Chris Young (top 5 I think). 7th round, Matt Kemp was still there.. was planning to go SP there, but couldn't pass him up so I grabbed him. 8th round I took my boy Rich Hill. Very pleased.
No closers yet and approaching the pick 130-150 closer run. I take Corpas in the 9th round to make sure I get one solid closer. Back to starting pitching, as I missed out on the Maine/Billingsley/Ollie/Lincecum/Gallardo group. Next best on my list was McGowan (although Pedro was tempting) so I take him in the 10th. 11th round I take Clay Buchholz hoping Jered Weaver makes it back to me. He didn't. I took Soria as my 2nd closer there in the 12th instead. Works for me. Wigginton was still there in the 13th, so I took him for his 2B/3B flexibility (might move Braun to OF anyhow).
Now, I knew the target area for the catchers I liked was rounds 13-15, and I wanted to make sure I got 2 solid catchers as I think that's a HUGE plus if you don't have a waste of space catcher. I took Ramon Hernandez and Towles in rounds 14 and 15 and was very happy. The draft always leaves plenty of good SP and OF for the late rounds, so I make sure to fill out my positional players first. Now it's time to start looking for those young up-and-comers who I think will make a big difference for me this year as well as some solid backups. I ended up with Billy Butler, Chris Duncan, Ian Kennedy, Matt Diaz, Colby Rasmus, Kevin Slowey, Franklin Gutierrez, David Eckstein, Dave Roberts, Carlos Villanueva, Clayton Kershaw, Brian Bannister, Scott Hairston, Anthony Reyes, and Dana Eveland.
I couldn't have planned for a better draft. I was absolutely ecstatic. Here's my final roster:
C R. Hernandez
C JR Towles
1B R. Howard
2B H. Kendrick
SS R. Furcal
3B R. Braun
CI C. Figgins
MI T. Wigginton
OF M. Kemp
OF C. Duncan
OF M. Diaz
OF D. Roberts
OF F. Gutierrez
DH B. Butler
P C. Young
P R. Hill
P D. McGowan
P C. Buchholz
P I. Kennedy
P K. Slowey
P C. Villanueva
P M. Corpas
P J. Soria
B C. Rasmus
B D. Eckstein
B S. Hairston
B D. Eveland
B A. Reyes
B B. Bannister
B C. Kershaw
I'd also like to say it was an absolute pleasure to meet all of you in Chicago. Especially: Sheep, Nord, Bobby J, Chris, Dave (Darth Vander), and of course seein my buddy Mike again. We had great people there and it was a blast. I'm really surprised you drafted Braun- Kemp and targeted Upton. You just posted that article last week for us to read about how Braun, Kemp, and Upton had problems with CT % and were destined to be drafted too early. [/QUOTE]Caught Red Handed, Gekko Jr!
quote:Originally posted by Less than Dave:
"I wanted to take risks I wanted my guys here. Pitching wise I wanted Corpas, Billingsley, Mcgowan, and one of James Shields, Maine or Rich Hill. Hitters I wanted were Gordon, Encarnacion, Ellsbury, Francouer, and Billy Butler."
Well Kent, looks like we value a lot of the same players... I absolutely LOVE Rich Hill, and also really like Maine, Billingsley, Gordon, Francouer, Butler, Ellsbury, and McGowan (to a degree). I think Shields is great, but not where he usually goes.
Anyways, at pick 12, my plan was to pray to the fantasy gods that Ryan Braun somehow falls to my team (even though the latest he went in the last batch of satellites was 11). Then I was fairly certain BJ Upton would be there in the 2nd. After that, I had several targets in each round, but keeping in mind that I had to be flexible depending on what the draft gave me. You gotta be willing to adapt to your draft - if you don't, you get burned and get on the wrong ends of runs and/or miss out on good value picks.
My draft was... interesting. AROD, Hanley, and Wright went first, as usual, but then Rollins went at 4 and I knew it was going to get interesting. After Rollins, Reyes went followed by Utley. Then Fielder! This threw everyone off I think, but obviously the next 2 guys took Holliday and Cabrera and were ecstatic. Well, by this time I knew I was destined to get Braun. Santana went at 10, then Crawford at 11. With a huge beaming smile I took Braun at 12.
It got crazier after that. Following Braun was Soriano, then Sizemore, then Russell Martin. Phillips went first pick of the 2nd round, then Peavy. Ok, I can still get Upton. Nope, he goes at the pick in front of me. CRAP! But wait... what the..?!? RYAN HOWARD is still there in the 2nd round! In shock, I take Howard and smile. This totally changes my draft strategy as now I need to focus on speed, but so what, you gotta go with the flow of the draft and take what it gives you.
So I take Figgins in the 3rd and Furcal in the 4th to get some speed (Furcal was key because he is one of the very few top tier SS out there.. and he can steal) I don't know about other drafts, but speed went FAST in ours. Bourn went 6th round, Ellsbury went 7th round.. CRAZY.
My other strategy was to draft a few high batting average guys (and avoid low batting average guys also if possible) because you can pick up steals or homers off the waiver wire, but you can't easily makeup average. I picked Howie Kendrick in the 5th (early, but last remaining "top tier 2B" left in my opinion and he wouldn't make it back to me in the 7th). I say 7th round because my 5th and 6th round picks are 3 picks away from each other and I knew my 6th round pick wasn't getting taken there, so I took Kendrick first. He should really boost my team average. After that, I picked my favorite SP this year- Chris Young (top 5 I think). 7th round, Matt Kemp was still there.. was planning to go SP there, but couldn't pass him up so I grabbed him. 8th round I took my boy Rich Hill. Very pleased.
No closers yet and approaching the pick 130-150 closer run. I take Corpas in the 9th round to make sure I get one solid closer. Back to starting pitching, as I missed out on the Maine/Billingsley/Ollie/Lincecum/Gallardo group. Next best on my list was McGowan (although Pedro was tempting) so I take him in the 10th. 11th round I take Clay Buchholz hoping Jered Weaver makes it back to me. He didn't. I took Soria as my 2nd closer there in the 12th instead. Works for me. Wigginton was still there in the 13th, so I took him for his 2B/3B flexibility (might move Braun to OF anyhow).
Now, I knew the target area for the catchers I liked was rounds 13-15, and I wanted to make sure I got 2 solid catchers as I think that's a HUGE plus if you don't have a waste of space catcher. I took Ramon Hernandez and Towles in rounds 14 and 15 and was very happy. The draft always leaves plenty of good SP and OF for the late rounds, so I make sure to fill out my positional players first. Now it's time to start looking for those young up-and-comers who I think will make a big difference for me this year as well as some solid backups. I ended up with Billy Butler, Chris Duncan, Ian Kennedy, Matt Diaz, Colby Rasmus, Kevin Slowey, Franklin Gutierrez, David Eckstein, Dave Roberts, Carlos Villanueva, Clayton Kershaw, Brian Bannister, Scott Hairston, Anthony Reyes, and Dana Eveland.
I couldn't have planned for a better draft. I was absolutely ecstatic. Here's my final roster:
C R. Hernandez
C JR Towles
1B R. Howard
2B H. Kendrick
SS R. Furcal
3B R. Braun
CI C. Figgins
MI T. Wigginton
OF M. Kemp
OF C. Duncan
OF M. Diaz
OF D. Roberts
OF F. Gutierrez
DH B. Butler
P C. Young
P R. Hill
P D. McGowan
P C. Buchholz
P I. Kennedy
P K. Slowey
P C. Villanueva
P M. Corpas
P J. Soria
B C. Rasmus
B D. Eckstein
B S. Hairston
B D. Eveland
B A. Reyes
B B. Bannister
B C. Kershaw
I'd also like to say it was an absolute pleasure to meet all of you in Chicago. Especially: Sheep, Nord, Bobby J, Chris, Dave (Darth Vander), and of course seein my buddy Mike again. We had great people there and it was a blast. I'm really surprised you drafted Braun- Kemp and targeted Upton. You just posted that article last week for us to read about how Braun, Kemp, and Upton had problems with CT % and were destined to be drafted too early. [/QUOTE]Caught Red Handed, Gekko Jr!
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
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A man with a plan
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now.
[ March 18, 2008, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now.
[ March 18, 2008, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]
A man with a plan
Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now. [/QUOTE]Oh... put that one on the "too early" list now also.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now. [/QUOTE]Oh... put that one on the "too early" list now also.
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kemp was an overstuffed pig on draft day. 5th or 6th round for a guy who wasn't guarenteed playing time?!?!?!?!?
people should plan on under 450 AB for kemp this year. maybe WAY under IF he doesn't keeps his head in the game.
people should plan on under 450 AB for kemp this year. maybe WAY under IF he doesn't keeps his head in the game.
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Originally posted by KJ Duke:
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now. [/QUOTE]Kevin you run the Dodgers for a day- what trade you make? Move Pierre and eat a ton of contract- I am not so sure there are any takers at that with Crisp on the market, Lofton sitting in his living room, and Corey Patterson agreeing to play for next to nothing.
Do you move Kemp? Wow that one would take a pair?
So that leaves Ethier- he is not going to fetch you a front line ready pitching prospect. Even if he would you need it less than most teams do with Kershaw in the wings... The worst thing you can do is move Ethier for a bullpen arm and spare parts IMO.
My gut says that when they signed Andruw the plan was to eat Pierre's contract and dump him off on someone. They like a lot of people underestimated what that CF market was going to be like this offseason.
I think barring injury the Dodger OF jam is here for a good long while. An injury is pretty unlikely when you factor in Andruw and Pierre's track record.
quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
I heard on XM today the Dodgers are planning on platooning Kemp/Ethier wow..
What a dumb thing to do and even if it takes a month to sort out Kemp's value is dinged. That's gonna hurt if it happens, I'll assume its just trade posturing for now. [/QUOTE]Kevin you run the Dodgers for a day- what trade you make? Move Pierre and eat a ton of contract- I am not so sure there are any takers at that with Crisp on the market, Lofton sitting in his living room, and Corey Patterson agreeing to play for next to nothing.
Do you move Kemp? Wow that one would take a pair?
So that leaves Ethier- he is not going to fetch you a front line ready pitching prospect. Even if he would you need it less than most teams do with Kershaw in the wings... The worst thing you can do is move Ethier for a bullpen arm and spare parts IMO.
My gut says that when they signed Andruw the plan was to eat Pierre's contract and dump him off on someone. They like a lot of people underestimated what that CF market was going to be like this offseason.
I think barring injury the Dodger OF jam is here for a good long while. An injury is pretty unlikely when you factor in Andruw and Pierre's track record.