BIGGEST 1st_Round_BUST

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:10 pm

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

At least we're in the same ballpark. It's a shame. with downside to 15-78 .278 [/QUOTE]Interesting. While I can see the power going away, he is a legit .300 hitter. .288 is as low as I see that going. [/QUOTE]Wow I thought he was a legit .320 hitter. Since I don't have him this year, I hope your projections end up closer than mine...although I'm afraid he still has plenty of time to hit .330 with 35 HR, 130 rbi.

Anyone else think Braun will be a top 5 pick next year?

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:50 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Da bears:

Yeah I fell into the trap also.

i was reading before the draft about miggy not being able to handle being "the man". him signing this big contract probably has him in line for a .260-.270 season with 25 homerums.

if only braun didn't come down with that "achilles" injury right before the draft, he woulda been mine. i didn't have the guts to take an unproven guy with a possible injury. i tried to take the "money in the bank" player and look where it got me. F'ing disgusting.

[/QUOTE]Miggy has been "the Man"by far the past couple of years on the Marlins.Think he did pretty well.

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:53 am

Maybe the slow start will convince Leyland switch Sheffield and Cabrera in the 3 and 5 spots - Cabrera is the key to their season - and hitting in front of Magglio is the way to get him going.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:01 am

i'm not dropping him yet, i'll give him one more week to start producing. :rolleyes:

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:36 am

Seriously Gecko, you are kidding right? Writing off the season from 1 week?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:44 am

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:14 am

He goes from being THE MAN to being one of the guys.

He goes from one league to another.

He goes from a team with a nonchalant attitude to a no-nonsense team.

He gets a boo-boo the first week.

Its come a little too easy for Cabrera since he got to the majors, a time for struggle may be a good thing for him in the long run.

The talent is there, as soon as he wraps his head around the changes and adjusts, he'll go back to being a hitting machine.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:24 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point David Murphy is really growing on me. Reminds me of a little faster version of Rusty Greer. I saw Rick Thomas bid big on him this week too.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:12 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point David Murphy is really growing on me. Reminds me of a little faster version of Rusty Greer. I saw Rick Thomas bid big on him this week too. [/QUOTE]Great to hear that. We picked up Murphy in the main event, but I was out bid in 3 other leagues for him !@#$$

751542 · Post by **751542** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:50 am

he is a player!!!....reminds me a bit of a left handed eric byrnes...we shall see..i like what i see, we will see if he is a flash or a player he is gonna be given an opp. thats for sure.

Go Getta · Post by **Go Getta** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:53 am

I think Miguel and the whole Tigers team will do some good to get out of Comerica. They haven't played well at all there. A change in scenery should change some stats up for the better because lord knows they can't be any worse.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:09 am

i wouldn't worry about detroit. when you are facing 3 studs like contreras ,gavin floyd and buerle- what do you expect. like i said before- worry about leyland. the cell is now no smoking. i really think he could have a breakdown when they come to chi town- esp if bonderman and willis are on the hill.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:25 am

Originally posted by headhunters:

i wouldn't worry about detroit. when you are facing 3 studs like contreras ,gavin floyd and buerle- what do you expect. like i said before- worry about leyland. the cell is now no smoking. i really think he could have a breakdown when they come to chi town- esp if bonderman and willis are on the hill. Is it just me or does that Chisox lineup look like it will be dominated by good pitching and the type that will murder mediocre and bad pitching? We should call those type guys Andruw's after Andruw Jones.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:43 am

chest- there are a lot of line ups like that- so ya i agree. but we are much improved. last year we couldn't hit good, average or bad pitching. we do have 4 guys that will gladly take a walk- so when we face willis- that is 8 walks over the 1st 5. all he had to do was throw thome a strike- pretty much couldn't do it. sox division could be pretty fun- not sold on cleveland either. sabathia is not exactly lighting it up.

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:46 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point Gordon, you are such a BS'er, getting down in Miggy after one week. You looking for sympathy or what? I am amazed you have the balls to write this with a straight face. Oh well, at least you keep the message boards busy. By the way, Liriano won't be the star you might think this year but he will be worth keeping. You are in the 30 so far so it can't be all bad.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:52 am

Originally posted by Plymouth:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point Gordon, you are such a BS'er, getting down in Miggy after one week. You looking for sympathy or what? I am amazed you have the balls to write this with a straight face. Oh well, at least you keep the message boards busy. By the way, Liriano won't be the star you might think this year but he will be worth keeping. You are in the 30 so far so it can't be all bad. [/QUOTE]I AM NOT BS'ING.

MIGGY WILL UNDERPERFORM (MAYBE BY A LOT).

I NEVER HAD LIRINAO AS A STAR THIS YEAR.

READING COMP!!!

DiamondKing · Post by **DiamondKing** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:28 am

Miggy has two things going against him for this season.He changed leagues,and he is a young player attempting to justify a big contract.

GoBabyGo · Post by **GoBabyGo** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:55 am

And I bet Miggy rather play in the warmth of Florida than the cold in Detriot. He will be fine, there are no 1st RD busts this year. Believe me the 1st rd will not win this thing. Nor the 2nd rd guys. From then on is your true draft imho.

Kudos to those guys that got

Cueto

Volquez

McClouth (Kid is fun to watch play another Lenny Dykstra, imho) Plays hard.

Kuroda

Millwood (So far so good)

This type of mid to late round talent is what will get you there. Wish I had any of these guys. Waited to long for Nate.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:27 am

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

he is a player!!!....reminds me a bit of a left handed eric byrnes...we shall see..i like what i see, we will see if he is a flash or a player he is gonna be given an opp. thats for sure. Rick, you generally have great knowledge and feel, but you are a little off base on this one - Murphy has nowhere near the potential of Byrnes (and no Shag Wagon).

Yes he has moved from fourth OF to a regular, but his upside even with full time AB is low double digit HR and SB without many RBI or R.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:22 am

C'mon guys...easy on Mr. Gekko.

Don't you all know that if you own a player...and he is playing poorly...rip him a new on on the MB, and they start to rake!

As an example...I was looking up Salty's minor league numbers (nice), and comparing them to Lairds major league number (horrible) a couple days ago. I then ripped Laird on a local league MB...and BAM...Laird hits 2 HR and drives in a million runs.

The opposite is bragging up a player you own...followed by a DL trip.

~Lance

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:36 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

C'mon guys...easy on Mr. Gekko.

Don't you all know that if you own a player...and he is playing poorly...rip him a new on on the MB, and they start to rake!

As an example...I was looking up Salty's minor league numbers (nice), and comparing them to Lairds major league number (horrible) a couple days ago. I then ripped Laird on a local league MB...and BAM...Laird hits 2 HR and drives in a million runs.

The opposite is bragging up a player you own...followed by a DL trip.

~Lance All right Lance....

TOM GORZELANNY you are pile of @(*#*%*@&$(*&#(*$&#(*&$&@$(*#@

chitt!

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:52 am

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

hopefully u huys are right, but i don't like what i see, unless i'm looking for a meatball.

he and liriano are two guys i wish i could give back. heck, i'd even take david murphy over miggy at this point David Murphy is really growing on me. Reminds me of a little faster version of Rusty Greer. I saw Rick Thomas bid big on him this week too. [/QUOTE]Great to hear that. We picked up Murphy in the main event, but I was out bid in 3 other leagues for him !@#$$ [/QUOTE]I just dropped acid and I still see David Murphy as a platoon player in 2-3 weeks.... trying to see the 'good 20 at bats makes you an all star' logic.

320 AB, 46/8/45/6/.292

Reminds me a lot of Chris Shelton, only with no power...

Worth a $4 bid

Dyv

[ April 07, 2008, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Dyv ]

751542 · Post by **751542** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:55 am

hook... did anyone expect byrnes to do what he has done??? some people do suprise and he is only 26 hitting in texas in a great lineup...i will roll the dice here!!!

751542 · Post by **751542** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:59 am

i also remember alot of people on these boards saying sherill will not be a worthy closer and SHHHHAAAAZZZZAAAAMMMM!!!

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:11 pm

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

hook... did anyone expect byrnes to do what he has done??? some people do suprise and he is only 26 hitting in texas in a great lineup...i will roll the dice here!!! Like Kerry Wood for $4???

Mr. Washington does strange things as noted before, and for some reason, Mr. W likes this guy.

There's not much down side risk here. He's a .280 hitter at worst in that stadium with 15-85 upside.

I'd roll the dice if I had the need, just like we did with Blackburn today.