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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:37 am

"Breaks out" more

Mike Pelfrey or Matt Garza?



Worst signing

C.C. Sabathia or A.J. Burnett?



More "real"

Carlos Quentin or Dustin Pedroia?



First to lose job

Brian Wilson or Joel Hanrahan?

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Post by CC's Desperados » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:37 am

Originally posted by fireballs:

I think my 8 year old has a better arm than Johnny Damon!! I think the problem with Damon's arm is: he is really right handed. He just never realized it. If you throw the ball with your wrong hand, it looks just like a Damon throw.

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:39 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

"Breaks out" more

Mike Pelfrey or Matt Garza?



Worst signing

C.C. Sabathia or A.J. Burnett?



More "real"

Carlos Quentin or Dustin Pedroia?



First to lose job

Brian Wilson or Joel Hanrahan? 1. Garza

2. Burnett

3. Pedroia (but I like Quentin a lot)

4. Hanrahan
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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:41 am

How many Mariners have MORE than 5 saves?



How about the Rays?



Breaks camp with club or first to majors?

Brett Anderson or Trevor Cahill?



Anthony Reyes or Nick Blackburn and why?



With KJ's DC salary league, without seeing the rosters, do you think a $400 club can beat the $1,800 ones?

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Post by Edwards Kings » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:42 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

"Breaks out" more

Mike Pelfrey or Matt Garza?



Worst signing

C.C. Sabathia or A.J. Burnett?



More "real"

Carlos Quentin or Dustin Pedroia?



First to lose job

Brian Wilson or Joel Hanrahan? Hello, Patrick!



Garza

Burnett

Quentin

Hanrahan
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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:43 am

Would you ever want to live in a place where you say it's cold when it's 50 degrees during the winter?

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:43 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

How many Mariners have MORE than 5 saves?



How about the Rays?



Breaks camp with club or first to majors?

Brett Anderson or Trevor Cahill?



Anthony Reyes or Nick Blackburn and why?



With KJ's DC salary league, without seeing the rosters, do you think a $400 club can beat the $1,800 ones? 1. Five. What a mess that bullpen is.

2. Two

3. Cahill

4. Blackburn. Better win potential and hasn't failed as much as Reyes.



I honestly don't know the rules to KJ's league so I can't answer that question. Sorry but I'm really in the dark on that one.
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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:44 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Would you ever want to live in a place where you say it's cold when it's 50 degrees during the winter? Absolutely.



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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:44 am

Hello, Wayne.

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Post by sportsbettingman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:46 am

You see no "Papelbon like" flip flopping with David Price?



Should the Ray bullpen fail miserably or Price not fare so well as a starter...you see no scenario where he closes at some point in the 2009 season?



I know he's the top prospect STARTER...but he sure looked good as a closer last year, and they can protect that arm like they mention with Joba.



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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:47 am

We paid for the players with real money. For example, Arod cost $320.....Alex Gordon cost $4.



Johan Santana cost $200

Matt Garza $4



Jorge Posada cost $150

Dioner Navarro cost $4



Other than that, basic NFBC DC league.



Can the Marlins win the against the Yankees in that format?

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:48 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

You see no "Papelbon like" flip flopping with David Price?



Should the Ray bullpen fail miserably or Price not fare so well as a starter...you see no scenario where he closes at some point in the 2009 season?



I know he's the top prospect STARTER...but he sure looked good as a closer last year, and they can protect that arm like they mention with Joba.



~Lance I think Price stays in the rotation. I think he has the stuff to be a starter and I think he'll show it from the outset. I think they have some options if Percival isn't ready so there's no need to put Price back in the pen.



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Post by Edwards Kings » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:49 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

You see no "Papelbon like" flip flopping with David Price?



Should the Ray bullpen fail miserably or Price not fare so well as a starter...you see no scenario where he closes at some point in the 2009 season?



I know he's the top prospect STARTER...but he sure looked good as a closer last year, and they can protect that arm like they mention with Joba.



~Lance I am betting they give JP a LOOOONG look before they stick Price in that job.
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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:49 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

We paid for the players with real money. For example, Arod cost $320.....Alex Gordon cost $4.



Johan Santana cost $200

Matt Garza $4



Jorge Posada cost $150

Dioner Navarro cost $4



Other than that, basic NFBC DC league.



Can the Marlins win the against the Yankees in that format? I don't see why not. But it's hard to speculate without seeing rosters. It's pure guesswork. But in theory I'd say yes because the key to winning any fantasy title is getting good value picks. If you load up with enough of them in this type of league you should be very competitive.
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Post by GOD Loves You » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:50 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

You see no "Papelbon like" flip flopping with David Price?



No way....during spring training last season, management thought he was their BEST starter then!



No flip flopping needed with all those arms in the pen.



His ability to consistently place the ball low in the zone is unmatched for his age. I know some thinks he busts this season....it's not going to happen.

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Post by sportsbettingman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:58 am

I'm considering wagering a nice sum of money on DET to win the AL Central at 4 to 1 odds..am I crazy?



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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:00 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I'm considering wagering a nice sum of money on DET to win the AL Central at 4 to 1 odds..am I crazy?



~Lance Depends on the wager. They were my pick to win it all last year so if you make that bet I hope you fare better than I did.
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Post by sportsbettingman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:10 am

Posted for interest...



These are the odds to win your division.



NL East



Atlanta Braves +500

Florida Marlins +600

New York Mets +130

Philadelphia Phillies +150

Washington Nationals +5000



NL Central



Chicago Cubs -160

Cincinnati Reds +600

Houston Astros +1500

Milwaukee Brewers +500

Pittsburgh Pirates +3000

St Louis Cardinals +600



NL West



Arizona Diamondbacks +160

Colorado Rockies +600

Los Angeles Dodgers +140

San Diego Padres +2000

San Francisco Giants +400



AL East



Baltimore Orioles +10000

Boston Red Sox +200

New York Yankees -130

Tampa Bay Rays +400

Toronto Blue Jays +2000



AL Central



Chicago White Sox +400

Cleveland Indians +200

Detroit Tigers +400

Kansas City Royals +1500

Minnesota Twins +180



AL West



Los Angeles Angeles -225

Oakland As +300

Seattle Mariners +1200

Texas Rangers +600
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Post by sportsbettingman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:16 am

I would consider taking both Tampa Bay and Boston. You wash if Bos wins and double up if TB wins...Yankees kill you, but I don't like their team chemistry.



Houston at 15-1 seems like a reasonable long shot small money bet.



I like DET at 4-1 the best.



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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:23 am

Good stuff everyone. Now that we have our baseball magazines done for the year, we'll have more time to focus on the boards and generating more discussion and getting everyone fired up for the upcoming season. You're going to see so much of us you'll be sick of us.
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Post by Ryan C » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:24 am

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Anyone can pick a player from Boston, but every year there is a "hot" team that puts together a surprising season and many players on that team seem to exceed expectations. Such as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.



What team is it gonna be this year? I think Cleveland - at least on the offensive side has that look this year. Look at that lineup with two comeback-of-the-year candidates in VMart and Hafner and a bunch of guys coming into their age 27 seasons: Sizemore, Peralta, Garko, Shin-Soo Choo and Ben Francisco. Add in a young up-and-comer in Asdrubal Cabrera then top it off with the veteran Mark DeRosa. This team was top 10 in Runs scored without Hafner and Martinez. I think a good case can be made that Peralta, Choo, Francisco, Garko and Cabrera all outperform expectations. Makes me wonder even more why the Tribe didn't go after another veteran arm this off-season.
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Post by Captain Hook » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:27 am

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Walla Walla:

OK, So the word Pimp would be way out of line than. Example Perry Van Pimp ???? As long as Perry doesn't have a problem with that, I think that would be ok. [/QUOTE]Perry has a problem with it as John well knows.

Especially in the context used.

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Post by Tom Kessenich » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:28 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by Walla Walla:

OK, So the word Pimp would be way out of line than. Example Perry Van Pimp ???? As long as Perry doesn't have a problem with that, I think that would be ok. [/QUOTE]Perry has a problem with it as John well knows.

Especially in the context used.
[/QUOTE]Then it's not something worth posting in this forum.
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Post by Quahogs » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:39 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

We paid for the players with real money. For example, Arod cost $320.....Alex Gordon cost $4.



Johan Santana cost $200

Matt Garza $4



Jorge Posada cost $150

Dioner Navarro cost $4



Other than that, basic NFBC DC league.



Can the Marlins win the against the Yankees in that format? No.




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Post by Gordon Gekko II » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:41 am

tom - would you play strip beer pong against a couple of college girls from NYC.



and they are both 8+ (out of 10).

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