Formatting of stats reports

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:33 am

Just snooping around on the Stats website...

"Major League Baseball

STATS is the official real-time data licensor for MLB Advanced Media, the interactive media and Internet company of Major League Baseball.

STATS distributes real-time and post-game information to media outlets around the world covering web, mobile, broadcast, iTV and print. The agreement extends beyond the Major League Baseball calendar of games to include all affiliated leagues, such as Triple-A, Double-A, Single-A, Rookie League, Arizona Fall League, the Caribbean Winter Leagues and World Baseball Classic.

STATS in-house editorial team and The Associated Press reporter network produce complete editorial game previews and recaps for each MLB game throughout the season."

Do they have a monopoly on this, or are there competitors out there, or will you have to create a team of folks that log in the game data in real time?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:37 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Just snooping around on the Stats website...

"Major League Baseball

STATS is the official real-time data licensor for MLB Advanced Media, the interactive media and Internet company of Major League Baseball.

STATS distributes real-time and post-game information to media outlets around the world covering web, mobile, broadcast, iTV and print. The agreement extends beyond the Major League Baseball calendar of games to include all affiliated leagues, such as Triple-A, Double-A, Single-A, Rookie League, Arizona Fall League, the Caribbean Winter Leagues and World Baseball Classic.

STATS in-house editorial team and The Associated Press reporter network produce complete editorial game previews and recaps for each MLB game throughout the season."

Do they have a monopoly on this, or are there competitors out there, or will you have to create a team of folks that log in the game data in real time? STATS has had a person at every game or tracking every game for decades. Baseball Info Solutions, founded by John Dewan the original founder of STATS, does this as well and competes in some ways for baseball data with STATS.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:47 am

More digging. The date matches up well for our deal here, if those "financial terms" that were not disclosed was a BIG term, and Stats wanted to strong arm the fantasy industry with a big raise for itself...I can see the motivation to separate. One thing that is a positive, is that Stats never listened to the NFBC customer as much as an in-house programmer would...so the potential down the road to customize this baby to the will of the NFBC customer is pretty cool.

"Thursday, 04 February 2010 13:31

STATS LLC announced today that it has entered into a multi-year agreement to serve as the official real-time data licensor for MLB Advanced Media, LP, the interactive media and Internet company of Major League Baseball.

Financial terms were not released.

STATS will distribute real-time and post-game information to media outlets around the world covering web, mobile, broadcast, iTV and print. The agreement extends beyond the Major League Baseball calendar of games to include all affiliated leagues, such as Triple-A, Double-A, Single-A, Rookie League, Arizona Fall League and the Caribbean Winter Leagues, and other events for which MLBAM collects data.

“Every day thousands of pitches are thrown across professional baseball and each one generates dozens of individual data points that we track in real time, making it imperative to partner with a state-of-the-art statistical syndicator and distributor such as STATS to optimize how we serve our fans,” said Kenny Gersh, Senior Vice President, Business Development, MLBAM.

“Those familiar with the history of STATS understand baseball has been an integral part of our heritage. Therefore, it’s particularly gratifying to announce this new relationship with MLB Advanced Media. STATS looks forward to disseminating the baseball experience through our global network of partners and this strong alliance for years to come,” said STATS Executive Vice President, Steve Byrd."

Stats Signs Deal To Become MLB's Real-Time Data Licensor

By Eric Fisher, Staff Writer, SportsBusiness Journal

Stats LLC has struck a multiyear deal with MLBAM to become baseball's offcial real-time data licensor. Building on similar pacts Stats holds with the NFL, NBA and other major properties, Stats will distribute real-time and post-game data to its media clients around the world, and the deal also covers the affliated minor leagues, Arizona Fall League, World Baseball Classic, Caribbean World Series and other events where MLBAM collects data.

Stats' involvement essentially replaces a somewhat similar pact MLBAM held with SportsTicker

prior to Stats' acquisition of its one-time rival last year. Financial terms were not disclosed. However, the deal is a fairly traditional data licensing and distribution deal and does not include anything from Stats' ongoing motion

tracking work with its SportVu unit. Nor does the agreement allow for the licensing of any location and trajectory-based data developed by MLBAM in partnership with Sportvision. "The motion tracking and thinking about incorporating the kinds of things we're doing there is a conversation we're still going to want to have with them," said Stats Exec VP Steve Byrd. "But this is a huge deal for us. It was the biggest property out there we didn't have, and we have tons of opportunity particularly in places like Japan and Taiwan where we have a strong

presence and there's big demand for this data. This sets us up exactly where we want to be." Stats will still cover every MLB game on its own, as it has in the past, to create a backup data feed instead of just relying on MLBAM's feed."

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:49 am

I'm not sure what this post has to do with us, Lance. But you do understand the relationship between STATS and MLB, don't you??

But whatever you're trying to accomplish here, you sure have prevented us from continuing our discussion of trying to improve the team pages.

[ April 08, 2010, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:52 am

"Breaking News: MLB Advanced Media and Stats in an Exclusive Deal

According to Eric Fisher of Sports Business Journal, he just tweeted that “Stats LLC signs deal with MLB Advanced Media to become baseball’s official real-time data licensor. Story coming today in SBD.”

Uh-oh.

Two years ago, MLB Advanced Media lost a court case against CDM Sports (Fanball), which essentially stated that statistics are public domain, and that a license from MLB was not required to host fantasy sports games.

Unfortunately, this new arrangement might be a great work-around for MLB, since Stats is able to choose to whom it sells its statistical data. By creating this exclusive relationship for data, MLB has gotten what it always wanted–only one source of data.

Note, the wording of Fisher’s tweet implies this relationship applies only to real-time data, which means that full post-game data may still be available from other sources.

I will update this story as the details of the relationship become clearer.

This much is clear though, having only one source of statistical data is not good for the fantasy sports industry. It limits innovation and small business development, and makes statistics something that only a few select companies can afford."

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:55 am

Hi Greg,

Sorry if this has already been posted. Perhaps my ADD is kicking in or its just the message boards are flooded with pointless discussions about relationships, drama, STATS, and I have lost interest.

I was wondering if we could have a standings section that shows overall as well as standings in each category. It would be nice to follow how far behind I am in each category and what I need to address. Sorry if this has been posted.

Lets just focus on how to make this better.

I sincerely appreciate the way you personally Greg have handled this situation.

Thank you.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:55 am

Lance, stop Googling!!

We get all of our statistics for the NFBC from STATS. We just are running our own back-end this year.

Trust me, Byrd is still my golf partner when we get together. He's shooting better than me, but he will never be able to outdrink me!!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:58 am

Originally posted by Big Fish:

Hi Greg,

Sorry if this has already been posted. Perhaps my ADD is kicking in or its just the message boards are flooded with pointless discussions about relationships, drama, STATS, and I have lost interest.

I was wondering if we could have a standings section that shows overall as well as standings in each category. It would be nice to follow how far behind I am in each category and what I need to address. Sorry if this has been posted.

Lets just focus on how to make this better.

I sincerely appreciate the way you personally Greg have handled this situation.

Thank you. Matt, yes in our Overall Standings that will appear tomorrow the categories will be broken out and sortable. That should all be viewable tomorrow. Sorry for the five-day delay.

Again, we will have Overall Standings for:

Main Event

Online

Live Double Play

Auction Championship

Combined Standings

Big Fish · Post by **Big Fish** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:59 am

Thanks and no worries.

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:02 pm

Honestly the only stats I want to see on my league and team pages are the ones that count in the standings.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:03 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Mark, you keep talking like you know the history of who we were going to work with on the back-end, which you don't. You don't know when the STATS relationship actually ended with us. That's why I'm not sure what you keep saying about November and now January. I don't remember you being in those negotiations.

i know the history of what was said to me (and others).

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:08 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Mark, you keep talking like you know the history of who we were going to work with on the back-end, which you don't. You don't know when the STATS relationship actually ended with us. That's why I'm not sure what you keep saying about November and now January. I don't remember you being in those negotiations.

i know the history of what was said to me (and others). [/QUOTE]If you did then you certainly wouldn't be throwing out the months of November and January. Again, I don't care who leads the bandwagon to lynch all of us involved, but I think most people would rather get this completely fixed and have Friday be a good day of looking at every NFBC standing they expected on Monday. That's the goal, not wasting another 3,000 hours that you say we committed.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:12 pm

OK...back to "formatting of stats reports"

One thing Yahoo ROCKS at is each morning next to your league rankings...it has a "points change" in red (for loss) and green (for gain). Mostly red.

I LOVE this feature as a simple summary report of how the previous day went down.

Put it on the back burner. Yahoo is very well laid out...much better in my opinion than CBS and ESPN.

[ April 08, 2010, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:23 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

And you are right for saying: YEAH, BUT THIS SH*T SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO. WHY DOES KJ HAVE TO TELL YOU TO PUT STAT CATEGORIES CONSISTENTLY ON EVERY STINKIN' PAGE? I don't know at this point. i think this is the root problem greg. you don't want to (or can't) address why fanball dropped the ball on the programming end. ryan doesn't want to come on and answer that question either.

i'd just like answer WHY fanball relied on us to beta test the draft software ONE WEEK before it was to go live and then gave us a faab system that was a disaster WITHOUT ANY WARNING.

both issues show a clear lack of planning ahead (even though we were told the whole time not to worry). we just want to know WHY there was a lack of planning ahead

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:40 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

And you are right for saying: YEAH, BUT THIS SH*T SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO. WHY DOES KJ HAVE TO TELL YOU TO PUT STAT CATEGORIES CONSISTENTLY ON EVERY STINKIN' PAGE? I don't know at this point. i think this is the root problem greg. you don't want to (or can't) address why fanball dropped the ball on the programming end. ryan doesn't want to come on and answer that question either.

i'd just like answer WHY fanball relied on us to beta test the draft software ONE WEEK before it was to go live and then gave us a faab system that was a disaster WITHOUT ANY WARNING.

both issues show a clear lack of planning ahead (even though we were told the whole time not to worry). we just want to know WHY there was a lack of planning ahead [/QUOTE]Mark, this is a running debate that is getting us nowhere. I've addressed everything. I'm not hiding anything. As for Ryan, he would say the same thing without being a lightening rod for you folks, so let me say it. IT said it was tested and tested and something programmed by the person responsible for this piece of software failed miserably. They held the FAAB back for hours making sure it would work and something went afoul. I wasn't in St. Louis at the time, so I don't know exactly what happened.

But I know where the fault was and who fixed it and when. After that, it set off a chain of events that made us look even worse. The NFBC was NOT supposed to be a beta testing ground for items in software that have worked for years and years.

Folks did test all of this. As for planning, yes, we didn't have everything that should have been done on Monday by Monday. Even without the hiccups, we deserve the criticism for unveiling features days after the start of the season. Now it's time to get this all out and working PERFECTLY. I can't say it enough, that's what we're all focused on.

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:53 pm

Is the order of the categories in the living scoring report someones idea of a joke?

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:57 pm

Originally posted by Plymouth:

Is the order of the categories in the living scoring report someones idea of a joke? Nope...that one got "KJ'd"

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:59 pm

Originally posted by Plymouth:

Is the order of the categories in the living scoring report someones idea of a joke? AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

This would be my preference

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:12 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

Is the order of the categories in the living scoring report someones idea of a joke? AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

This would be my preference [/QUOTE]Most all would agree with this. Why re-invent the wheel.

Also...trying to look UP for totals seems backwards as well. Having the totals placed on the bottom seems more comfy...but I guess this site is out to re-train us old dogs.

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:34 pm

again..just show me the categories that count in the standings..

AVG R HR RBI SB

ERA WHIP W K SV

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:45 pm

Originally posted by ottawaclo:

again..just show me the categories that count in the standings..

AVG R HR RBI SB

ERA WHIP W K SV That's under the FANTASY pulldown. I believe there is a STANDARD pulldown with more stats and FANTASY with the 5x5 categories.

jaybvl · Post by **jaybvl** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:54 pm

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!!

jaybvl · Post by **jaybvl** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:58 pm

Why has % owned and % started not been added to the "set line-ups" page? This has been brought up numerous times! Should be a simple fix.

The season is 5 days old and we are not even close to having what we had the past few years. I thought Fanball was an upgrade. This is very frustrating!!!!!

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:00 pm

thanks greg..sorry for the random noobness on that one..lol

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:00 pm

Originally posted by jaybvl:

Why has % owned and % started not been added to the "set line-ups" page? This has been brought up numerous times! Should be a simple fix.

The season is 5 days old and we are not even close to having what we had the past few years. I thought Fanball was an upgrade. This is very frustrating!!!!! What's the point of % owned on lineup page?