ALL TIME DRAFT FINAL STANDINGS

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:59 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

2. 10-Jon Stadtmueller

Jeff Shaw, 1998

91 points

WINNER

1. 14-Steve Wells

Lance Parrish, 1983

92 points Congrats!!!!! Great Job!!!!

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:00 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

2. 10-Jon Stadtmueller

Jeff Shaw, 1998

91 points

WINNER

1. 14-Steve Wells

Lance Parrish, 1983

92 points Congrats to John and Steve! Very Well done in an incredibly close draft. Even finishing 7th it would not have taken much for Dave and I to have won and the same goes for a half dozen or more other teams. One comment would be that these results should just about end the debate of where the advantage lies in a draft of this nature. The best strategy won, not the best draft slot.

[ November 12, 2011, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: G@mblor ]

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:01 pm

Nice job Steve. Well done and deserved. Don't spend it all in one place.

When do I get a chance at redemption?

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:01 pm

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:02 pm

Todd, can you post the final totals sheet?

Nevadaman · Post by **Nevadaman** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:04 pm

Thanks everyone. I'd do this again if you guys are so inclined.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:05 pm

FINAL TRACKER

Please check for mistakes since the results were so close.

THANKS!!

[ November 12, 2011, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: ToddZ ]

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:06 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Nice job Steve. Well done and deserved. Don't spend it all in one place.

When do I get a chance at redemption? More importantly, if we do this again, I challenge my co-manager to compete on his own and see who's really responsible for our not winning this!

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:09 pm

Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Nice job Steve. Well done and deserved. Don't spend it all in one place.

When do I get a chance at redemption? More importantly, if we do this again, I challenge my co-manager to compete on his own and see who's really responsible for our not winning this! [/QUOTE]I am sure everyone can do this with their team but for us +12hr and + 10 saves = championship.And we finished 7th!! Incredible.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:09 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

3. 4-Brian Slack

Reggie Jackson, 1969

90 points I never saw Randy Johnson in round 5 on this team. With Tom Seaver, he wins the league.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:10 pm

FWIW,, the results were delayed two minutes because I originally had LARRY Parrish and not LANCE in for Nevada. He would have lost with Larry. Amazing what 3 letter can do.

I am going to write pretty extensively about this for my site.

And finally, sorry for the gratuitous plug, but if you found the tracker useful, I am going to make it available for free for those wanting to use it in slow drafts and I am planning on releasing my first set of projections on or about Dec.1 and I will include the tracker with the initial offerings if you do not have your own projections. The draft kit will cost money though, sorry.

The Fool on the Hill · Post by **The Fool on the Hill** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:11 pm

Ummm... Jeff Shaw on team 15 and team 10?

Shouldn't one of those be eddie guardado?

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:11 pm

Great Job Steve...thanks for proving we don't need 3RR.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:13 pm

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by Likewhat17:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Nice job Steve. Well done and deserved. Don't spend it all in one place.

When do I get a chance at redemption? More importantly, if we do this again, I challenge my co-manager to compete on his own and see who's really responsible for our not winning this! [/QUOTE]I am sure everyone can do this with their team but for us +12hr and + 10 saves = championship.And we finished 7th!! Incredible. [/QUOTE]Not everyone

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:14 pm

I've been thinking about the blind rounds during drafts of this kind.

They are needed, otherwise team one, two, and three would have a big advantage at the end of the draft in knowing exactly the numbers they'd need to move ahead of others.

One way to get around the blind rounds (of which I would suggest only two for the next draft), is to draft 25 rounds. Then 'declare' to an outside party or trustee in secrecy who your two 'benched' players are.

Just a suggestion...

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:14 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Great Job Steve...thanks for proving we don't need 3RR. I think the teams 1-6 who didn't end up top 5 also proved that.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:15 pm

Originally posted by ToddZ:

FWIW,, the results were delayed two minutes because I originally had LARRY Parrish and not LANCE in for Nevada. He would have lost with Larry. Amazing what 3 letter can do.

I am going to write pretty extensively about this for my site.

And finally, sorry for the gratuitous plug, but if you found the tracker useful, I am going to make it available for free for those wanting to use it in slow drafts and I am planning on releasing my first set of projections on or about Dec.1 and I will include the tracker with the initial offerings if you do not have your own projections. The draft kit will cost money though, sorry. Thanks for the help Todd...maybe the sales will be up this year!

I'm ready to start looking at 2012. I'd like to run this back again next October with the same teams and try to somehow flip the draft order.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:16 pm

Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Great Job Steve...thanks for proving we don't need 3RR. I think the teams 1-6 who didn't end up top 5 also proved that. [/QUOTE]Somehow the middle of the draft has the biggest problems.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by ToddZ:

3. 4-Brian Slack

Reggie Jackson, 1969

90 points I never saw Randy Johnson in round 5 on this team. With Tom Seaver, he wins the league. [/QUOTE]With Tom Seaver, who wouldn't win?

Sorry, needed one last gratuitous Mets plug.

Great fun everyone. Whether we do this again or not, it was a blast.

Texas Connection · Post by **Texas Connection** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Congratulations Steve! Thanks Shawn for putting this game together. This was awesome and a lot of fun. Thanks Dan and Todd for your efforts. The only downside to this seems to be my inability to quit thinking about this. I should be thinking about work but found myself thinking about this all the time.

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:18 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by G@mblor:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

Great Job Steve...thanks for proving we don't need 3RR. I think the teams 1-6 who didn't end up top 5 also proved that. [/QUOTE]Somehow the middle of the draft has the biggest problems. [/QUOTE]Agreed

signed, Team 9

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:19 pm

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I've been thinking about the blind rounds during drafts of this kind.

They are needed, otherwise team one, two, and three would have a big advantage at the end of the draft in knowing exactly the numbers they'd need to move ahead of others.

One way to get around the blind rounds (of which I would suggest only two for the next draft), is to draft 25 rounds. Then 'declare' to an outside party or trustee in secrecy who your two 'benched' players are.

Just a suggestion... I thought the blind rounds worked out well.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:20 pm

My guess is once the optimum strategy is fleshed out and I believe there is one, then spots 1-4 will be easily the most valuable and I am not sure 3RR will be enough to overcome the advantage.

Or, I could be wrong

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:21 pm

Originally posted by Texas Connection:

Congratulations Steve! Thanks Shawn for putting this game together. This was awesome and a lot of fun. Thanks Dan and Todd for your efforts. The only downside to this seems to be my inability to quit thinking about this. I should be thinking about work but found myself thinking about this all the time. Nice plan Jon and well executed.....

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:22 pm

Originally posted by Texas Connection:

Congratulations Steve! Thanks Shawn for putting this game together. This was awesome and a lot of fun. Thanks Dan and Todd for your efforts. The only downside to this seems to be my inability to quit thinking about this. I should be thinking about work but found myself thinking about this all the time. True. I spent the last three weeks locked in on this. It was helping me get over my 15th place finish in this past years Main Event.

But now I gotta spend the next 5 months getting over this 14th place finish