"I'll take all your money and your little retirement plan too!"
"We're WINNING!"
Free speech be damned --- Curt Schilling fired
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Let's start a list of Secretary Clinton's and Donald Trump potential campaign slogans...
"I'll take all your money and your little retirement plan too!"
"We're WINNING!"
"I'll take all your money and your little retirement plan too!"
"We're WINNING!"
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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Oh...and Bernie too!
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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The Bullet or the Rope
Two outlaws rode into town.
Billy, a rawboned kid, never experiencing the niceties of life
Sam, Billy's 'mentor', having spent more of his life in jail than out.
Sam and Billy get liquored up and decide without planning or foresight to rob the bank that night.
Cyrus Wilhelm, owner of the bank, happened to be working late into the evening.
Sam and Billy break in and threaten to kill Cyrus if he doesn't open the safe. Cyrus stands his ground and won't relent.
Young and impatient, Billy pistol whips Cyrus. They grab all the money possible and hightail it out of the bank.
Right into the arms of the Town Marshall, who was alerted by the lights being on in the Bank.
Sam and Billy were taken to jail.
Old Cyrus died from the pistol whipping.
Both Sam and Billy received the death sentence from Judge Harley Compass.
With a twinkle in his eye, the judge stated that it would be a 'different' death sentence.
He asked Sam and Billy if they'd rather hang or be shot.
Sam and Billy had heard dark stories of men struggling at the end of a rope. Both answered that they would like to be shot.
The judge anticipated this response.
He stated that Sam and Billy would be free (under armed guard) to roam the town for the next week.
During this time, they could do anything to influence townspeople in voting who should die by the rope or die by the gun.
Sam and Billy entered almost every place of business in town. They would clean up the General Store. Sam dug the hole for ol' Cyrus to be laid to rest. Billy cleaned up horse stalls. Sam kept the City streets clean of horsecrap.
Sam and Billy and the town were loving Judge Compass sentence.
Billy promising townsfolk that he would even send relatives and friends to do whatever needed done in their lives after their own lives were done, if they'd vote kindly.
Sam promising that he would pull strings 'from the great beyond' for townsfolk.
Election Day came for the town and just about every soul in the town voted. During the week, many had fought over whether Sam or Billy was the better person.
Actual fisticuffs.
Lost, lost on everybody was that these two had little by way of a moral compass.
Both had little going for them at all.
But their acts of kindness and promises over a short time had folks fighting in who was better.
We are voting between two people not admired.
Between two people, far down our totem pole in regards to a moral compass.
And arguinging over which one is better!
In our hearts, we know there is better out there.
We know it!
Still, some fight for what is their right.
The right to back an inferior candidate.
Of course, the one we back, less inferior than the other.
Our choices, limited.
Much as our rights have become in this country.
(Some folks can't even play fantasy baseball, fer crissakes!)
So now, we are left to decide for ourselves.
The bullet or the rope.
Two outlaws rode into town.
Billy, a rawboned kid, never experiencing the niceties of life
Sam, Billy's 'mentor', having spent more of his life in jail than out.
Sam and Billy get liquored up and decide without planning or foresight to rob the bank that night.
Cyrus Wilhelm, owner of the bank, happened to be working late into the evening.
Sam and Billy break in and threaten to kill Cyrus if he doesn't open the safe. Cyrus stands his ground and won't relent.
Young and impatient, Billy pistol whips Cyrus. They grab all the money possible and hightail it out of the bank.
Right into the arms of the Town Marshall, who was alerted by the lights being on in the Bank.
Sam and Billy were taken to jail.
Old Cyrus died from the pistol whipping.
Both Sam and Billy received the death sentence from Judge Harley Compass.
With a twinkle in his eye, the judge stated that it would be a 'different' death sentence.
He asked Sam and Billy if they'd rather hang or be shot.
Sam and Billy had heard dark stories of men struggling at the end of a rope. Both answered that they would like to be shot.
The judge anticipated this response.
He stated that Sam and Billy would be free (under armed guard) to roam the town for the next week.
During this time, they could do anything to influence townspeople in voting who should die by the rope or die by the gun.
Sam and Billy entered almost every place of business in town. They would clean up the General Store. Sam dug the hole for ol' Cyrus to be laid to rest. Billy cleaned up horse stalls. Sam kept the City streets clean of horsecrap.
Sam and Billy and the town were loving Judge Compass sentence.
Billy promising townsfolk that he would even send relatives and friends to do whatever needed done in their lives after their own lives were done, if they'd vote kindly.
Sam promising that he would pull strings 'from the great beyond' for townsfolk.
Election Day came for the town and just about every soul in the town voted. During the week, many had fought over whether Sam or Billy was the better person.
Actual fisticuffs.
Lost, lost on everybody was that these two had little by way of a moral compass.
Both had little going for them at all.
But their acts of kindness and promises over a short time had folks fighting in who was better.
We are voting between two people not admired.
Between two people, far down our totem pole in regards to a moral compass.
And arguinging over which one is better!
In our hearts, we know there is better out there.
We know it!
Still, some fight for what is their right.
The right to back an inferior candidate.
Of course, the one we back, less inferior than the other.
Our choices, limited.
Much as our rights have become in this country.
(Some folks can't even play fantasy baseball, fer crissakes!)
So now, we are left to decide for ourselves.
The bullet or the rope.
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Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
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every time I see something from dr. stangelove I just laugh. one of the greatest movies of all time. "hey- no fighting in the war room" a classic.
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NorCalAtlFan wrote:"checks sarcasm font", umm yes, that was tongue in cheek(except for alen, whom i think needs to be marginalized and diminished as much as possible).
man, just trying to lighten the mood.
can't wait for november 9th when hillary will bring sanity and civility back to the world we live in
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we're good alan 
i'm just trying to get this thread to 100 pages. one post at a time.
i'm just trying to get this thread to 100 pages. one post at a time.
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I figured it for sarcasm- just being sure. I love northern California and want to feel safe when visiting.
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as long as you don't wear a Make America Great Again hat or a Cavs jersey, you have no worries in Northern California
and then, all you'll get is an impolite stare from someone getting in their Smart car with a Bernie sticker on the bumper
and then, all you'll get is an impolite stare from someone getting in their Smart car with a Bernie sticker on the bumper
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For my part, just give a cold, then treat me under Obama-care. It is the only sure way to make sure I really have no chance to survive.DOUGHBOYS wrote:The Bullet or the Rope
The bullet or the rope.
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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This morning on the news it was announced that Pres Obama wants to force his vision of transgender acceptance onto our public school system. So now I have to explain to my daughter why a boy, dressed as a girl, is in the bathroom or locker room with her.
I would like to see someone who supports this come on and explain specifically why they support this.
Also, we all know that kids as they go through adolescence go through confusing times. It has been that way since the beginning of time. However, in today's society, where kids are exposed to so many complex and often inappropriate or adult themed things it makes this process even more confusing for them. Many who are into the transgender topic (either themselves are transgender or just support and champion it because they want to) would argue that there have always been people who are transgender but had to hide in the shadows. Others would argue that this kind of behavior is being glorified, highlighted and celebrated and is now encouraging or even driving more people down this path because they already were going through an awkward, confusing time. Which is it?
I would like to see someone who supports this come on and explain specifically why they support this.
Also, we all know that kids as they go through adolescence go through confusing times. It has been that way since the beginning of time. However, in today's society, where kids are exposed to so many complex and often inappropriate or adult themed things it makes this process even more confusing for them. Many who are into the transgender topic (either themselves are transgender or just support and champion it because they want to) would argue that there have always been people who are transgender but had to hide in the shadows. Others would argue that this kind of behavior is being glorified, highlighted and celebrated and is now encouraging or even driving more people down this path because they already were going through an awkward, confusing time. Which is it?
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No answer or at least no "right" or "wrong" answer, only perception and opinion.
I take a different approach as I honestly do not give a crap who wears a dress or pants though I understand how parents would be upset with having to explain certain perversions to their children. BTW, I define "perversion" as neither good or bad, but rather a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. And despite what the LGBTQIA community may state, "normal" is conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected in the larger community. What one person might consider "normal" for themselves is not necessarily be considered "normal" for the community in which they live in as a whole.
That being said, the real question is how far are we, as a society, willing to go (pay, accommodate) each niche group so that the impacted group can feel "comfortable" while protecting the "comfort" of the larger community. Do we yield to every small group demand at the expense of the larger groups conflicting sensibilities? And how small is the transgender group?
From a NY Times article from June 8, 2015, since the Social Security Administration started in 1936, 135,367 people have changed their name to one of the opposite gender, and 30,006 also changed their sex accordingly based on a University of California, Los Angeles Williams Institute study. Of Americans who participated in the 2010 census, 89,667 had changed their names and 21,833 had also changed their sex. In another paper, published in 2011 by the Williams Institute, used survey data to attempt to count the transgender population. It estimated that 0.3 percent of the population, or 700,000 adults, identified that way. This is probably not the right number, but I do not really know how to calculate a better one.
In any regard, for those institutions that do not have unisex facilities (I have started to notice in some smaller restaurants or other facilities multiple one-holers with no gender specification), is it reasonable to force (and I mean force with the full weight and power of the federal government) all of us to pay for separate facilities for 0.3 percent of the population?
I do feel that this is a lot of national dialogue on what is really a small issue. If a transgender man dressed as a "normal" women went into the female bathroom, likely as not, no one would notice. Same with man, assuming they use a stall, though I honestly have no idea why anyone would want to use a public mens restroom by choice. I do not want to as most are not necessarily clean, especially around the urinals where assumptions around the water pressure and aim of "Big John" fall far short of actual results.
So, by way of this and other educational and inclusion issues, our children are primarily of concern. Who determines when a child is exposed to deviations? The parent or the Federal Government? In short, I personally do not believe "inclusion" should mean the splinter niche's rights should have more weight than my rights. We may be therefore forced by the Federal Government to have to spend money (the left are analogizing to making buildings and facilities accessible to the handicapped) for a third bathroom option that will, btw, have to be innocuous enough so that the 0.3 percent do not run the risk of being labeled.
The Federals are insisting this bathroom problem falls under the '64 Civil Rights Act. Does anyone think Presidents Kennedy and appropriately named Johnson saw this one coming?
I take a different approach as I honestly do not give a crap who wears a dress or pants though I understand how parents would be upset with having to explain certain perversions to their children. BTW, I define "perversion" as neither good or bad, but rather a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. And despite what the LGBTQIA community may state, "normal" is conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected in the larger community. What one person might consider "normal" for themselves is not necessarily be considered "normal" for the community in which they live in as a whole.
That being said, the real question is how far are we, as a society, willing to go (pay, accommodate) each niche group so that the impacted group can feel "comfortable" while protecting the "comfort" of the larger community. Do we yield to every small group demand at the expense of the larger groups conflicting sensibilities? And how small is the transgender group?
From a NY Times article from June 8, 2015, since the Social Security Administration started in 1936, 135,367 people have changed their name to one of the opposite gender, and 30,006 also changed their sex accordingly based on a University of California, Los Angeles Williams Institute study. Of Americans who participated in the 2010 census, 89,667 had changed their names and 21,833 had also changed their sex. In another paper, published in 2011 by the Williams Institute, used survey data to attempt to count the transgender population. It estimated that 0.3 percent of the population, or 700,000 adults, identified that way. This is probably not the right number, but I do not really know how to calculate a better one.
In any regard, for those institutions that do not have unisex facilities (I have started to notice in some smaller restaurants or other facilities multiple one-holers with no gender specification), is it reasonable to force (and I mean force with the full weight and power of the federal government) all of us to pay for separate facilities for 0.3 percent of the population?
I do feel that this is a lot of national dialogue on what is really a small issue. If a transgender man dressed as a "normal" women went into the female bathroom, likely as not, no one would notice. Same with man, assuming they use a stall, though I honestly have no idea why anyone would want to use a public mens restroom by choice. I do not want to as most are not necessarily clean, especially around the urinals where assumptions around the water pressure and aim of "Big John" fall far short of actual results.
So, by way of this and other educational and inclusion issues, our children are primarily of concern. Who determines when a child is exposed to deviations? The parent or the Federal Government? In short, I personally do not believe "inclusion" should mean the splinter niche's rights should have more weight than my rights. We may be therefore forced by the Federal Government to have to spend money (the left are analogizing to making buildings and facilities accessible to the handicapped) for a third bathroom option that will, btw, have to be innocuous enough so that the 0.3 percent do not run the risk of being labeled.
The Federals are insisting this bathroom problem falls under the '64 Civil Rights Act. Does anyone think Presidents Kennedy and appropriately named Johnson saw this one coming?
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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Where does it say a boy needs to be dressed as a girl to be able to use the girls lockerroom or restroom? I fully expect to see:Driver Love wrote:This morning on the news it was announced that Pres Obama wants to force his vision of transgender acceptance onto our public school system. So now I have to explain to my daughter why a boy, dressed as a girl, is in the bathroom or locker room with her.
I would like to see someone who supports this come on and explain specifically why they support this.
Also, we all know that kids as they go through adolescence go through confusing times. It has been that way since the beginning of time. However, in today's society, where kids are exposed to so many complex and often inappropriate or adult themed things it makes this process even more confusing for them. Many who are into the transgender topic (either themselves are transgender or just support and champion it because they want to) would argue that there have always been people who are transgender but had to hide in the shadows. Others would argue that this kind of behavior is being glorified, highlighted and celebrated and is now encouraging or even driving more people down this path because they already were going through an awkward, confusing time. Which is it?
1. Pedophiles to begin using this immediately (with more coming on board every day) to meet their "needs"
2. High school boys changing and taking showers in girls lock room
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The legal profession is just giddy with excitement over potential new business. Crank up the debt to pay for it.Gekko wrote:Where does it say a boy needs to be dressed as a girl to be able to use the girls lockerroom or restroom? I fully expect to see:Driver Love wrote:This morning on the news it was announced that Pres Obama wants to force his vision of transgender acceptance onto our public school system. So now I have to explain to my daughter why a boy, dressed as a girl, is in the bathroom or locker room with her.
I would like to see someone who supports this come on and explain specifically why they support this.
Also, we all know that kids as they go through adolescence go through confusing times. It has been that way since the beginning of time. However, in today's society, where kids are exposed to so many complex and often inappropriate or adult themed things it makes this process even more confusing for them. Many who are into the transgender topic (either themselves are transgender or just support and champion it because they want to) would argue that there have always been people who are transgender but had to hide in the shadows. Others would argue that this kind of behavior is being glorified, highlighted and celebrated and is now encouraging or even driving more people down this path because they already were going through an awkward, confusing time. Which is it?
1. Pedophiles to begin using this immediately (with more coming on board every day) to meet their "needs"
2. High school boys changing and taking showers in girls lock room
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Edwards,Edwards Kings wrote: That being said, the real question is how far are we, as a society, willing to go (pay, accommodate) each niche group so that the impacted group can feel "comfortable" while protecting the "comfort" of the larger community. Do we yield to every small group demand at the expense of the larger groups conflicting sensibilities? And how small is the transgender group?
Great overall post. I singled out this part because this is what I think about often. Where does it end? That is why I made the point about identifying as a velociraptor and should my needs to be addressed? If I "identify" as a 12 year old can I play little league again? Can my son identify as a woman and run the 100 yard dash in the Olympics as woman? The can of worms this idiocy opens is never ending. I have always regretted not hitting a home run in the all star game and I think I want to try again.
Also, think about this. There are countless massive issues this country is dealing with now, both at home and abroad. This administration sits silent or takes a huge amount of time to address massive issues all the time. Yet the atty general has that huge press conference with impassioned words on the topic of transgender bathroom use followed by the president trying to impose transgender bathroom rules on every public school across the nation (followed by threats if they do not fall in line) a couple days later. THIS is a big issue to this administration? Think about what the priorities are right now...
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here it comes. bend over union as well as citizens...
Telephone tax a virtual certainty to save Laborers pension fund
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Telephone tax a virtual certainty to save Laborers pension fund
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KJ, can you share any thoughts on Brexit? Impact in UK, EU, US? I think it could be a bumpy ride today and probably quite a few more, but have no idea as to long-term impacts....
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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Citizens win
Banksters and the "establishment" lose
Cheers!
Banksters and the "establishment" lose
Cheers!
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Really? When the UK makes up 45% of the EU economy and 51% of EU consumption and now Non-UK company Headquarters (and other professional accounting, financial, and legal services) which were located in the UK to be closer to the London financial center will now move because open borders/no restrictions will no longer be available. EU and UK consumers will pay higher prices as tariffs and other trade fees will be reintroduced. So, less available services, higher prices in both the EU and UK?Gekko wrote:Citizens win
Banksters and the "establishment" lose
Cheers!
I get the frustration in the UK over the immigration and Brussels regulation issues, but I think this may be the death knell for the EU, which will be to the overall detriment of European economies being able to compete against US and Asian economies.
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
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If EU goes bye bye, again, citizens win. Banksters/establishment lose
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Take your nation back citizens!!! Good for you
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I did see the American dollar will be stronger now there. I am headed to Scotland in 4 weeks myself, specifically the golf resort Trump spoke at this morning. Should be interesting to get the thoughts of the locals.
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It seems like most people view these types of decisions by the following litmus test:
1. What will the stock market do?
2. What happens to the cost of goods/services?
While they are important questions, they are counterproductive to making the "right" decision
1. What will the stock market do?
2. What happens to the cost of goods/services?
While they are important questions, they are counterproductive to making the "right" decision
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Laughable.Gekko wrote:Take your nation back citizens!!! Good for you
Nothing changes for English Joe Schmo.
It's the same nonsense as American Joe Schmo voting for the Donald because he's not a politician.
He looks, sounds, and talks like a politician. Not passing the duck test.
Really, I don't remember a vote in which Joe Schmo could truly declare victory.
If ANY nation takes back their country, it would not be through a vote.
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Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
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Best Headline in UK newspapers...
SEE EU LATER!!!
SEE EU LATER!!!
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Driver Love wrote:I did see the American dollar will be stronger now there. I am headed to Scotland in 4 weeks myself, specifically the golf resort Trump spoke at this morning. Should be interesting to get the thoughts of the locals.
Need a caddy? I don't eat much but am willing to drink like a fish if it is a job requirement!
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
Charles Krauthammer