Magazine League II----Results Posted???

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:45 pm

I cant believe his infield is the worst.If Chavez can bounce back, along with Blaylock he could have some value here especially where he drafted these guys.Ive always liked Hardy and there moving Hall to the outfield to give Hardy the job.Barfield is a top 5 2nd baseman, [it's possible]. I like this team a lot , and if one of those closers in the waiting pan out , watch out.I would take this team and make the right waiver wire pickups , a chance to win a league.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:16 pm

Not sure if I like this team or not, not much went as I planned ... opinions?

CA - R Martin, R Barajas

1B - M Jacobs, Thorman, Kotchman

3B - D Wright, Ensberg

2B - Weeks, Kent

SS - Lugo

OF - Abreu, Pierre, Alou, Ethier, J Guillen, L Gonzalez

DH - Jim Thome (oops, forgot about him at first)

SP

Schmidt

Papelbon

Wainwright

J Johnson

Bonser

Hensley

Loaiza

Oliver Perez

K Wells

J Hirsch

RP

Lidge

Pineiro

Guardado

[ January 30, 2007, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:28 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

SP

Wainwright????

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:34 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

over/under on Zumaya is 12. Zumaya might turn out to be the biggest overvalued bust of the non-closing RP on draft day.Good call, Gekko. Grabbing a "closer-in-waiting" in the NFBC is much like taking Jerious Norwood or Brandon Jacobs in the NFFC -- it's going to cost you a fairly high pick, and the odds are fairly high that you'll get nothing out of the selection. [/QUOTE]Hey King,

I think Zumaya is the best pitcher in Detroit pen. Put him on a team with Carpenter,Peavy,Unit,Millwood & Lilly that's close to 1000 k's from 6 pitchers.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:37 pm

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

CHEST ROCKWELL...Thanks for the comments about my team in another thread. Although I was thinking the team looks worse on paper, compared to how it will finish. I am curious, what offensive category do you see it struggling in?? Hopefully by next season I will have my strategy tweaked just enough so I can compete in the main, I don't plan to join just to fare so, so, that's why I am just getting my feet wet with the satellites. Won last year, hope to again this season. BTW, will you be in Tampa again this season?? yes I will be in Tampa- my lovely wife will be my drafting partner in 07- a pregnant wife at the draft with me it should be interesting when she asks me to go get her some pickles and a candy bar in the middle of the 3rd round.

Good luck in all your sats and the main event. [/QUOTE]CONGRATS!! First, Second, Third, Fourth child?? When is she due? My wife is pregnant as well, due date around July 7th. Been telling people I hope he/she arrives on the 4th so I can save some money on his/her first 4-5 birthdays.

Stock up on the food and you should be a-ok. [/QUOTE]Congrats!! My wife is due with her first July 2nd

God Loves You and I have a bit in common

Spyhunter [/QUOTE]Thanks Spy and God loves you and all the kind words in private messages, have not had a chance to return them all yet- but it is certainly appreciated.

BTW Kimo nice team I like what you did in that draft.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:40 pm

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Vander:

First I hate to disagree with Shawn. I've looked at his teams and he's about the best there is. I think your closers are hoping for the best. All could be the guy. None may start out that way. Maybe none end up there. You may finish ahead of Eli on steals, but not ahead of many others. other than being weak in 2 cats, your team looks very good. Gotta like your outfield. starters are solid, especially first 3. Nice C's and I like your 2b guys. Both of them. You've got a shot at the money if you can survive 2 weak cats. 1 of which could turn out. I was just speculating. This isn't my team. I could see Zumaya closing in a hurry. As for Wood you will know by the time we draft, Dempster isn't the anwser. [/QUOTE]Disagreeing with Shawn is not something I do often- but no guarantees on Zumaya or Wood. Howry or Rodney could screw that up quickly. In Howry's case I actually think he may be the better choice. Use Wood twice a week for 2-3 innings possibly. If Rodney closes over Zumaya in 07 it would be a move I disagree with but could certainly see happening.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:44 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Not sure if I like this team or not, not much went as I planned ... opinions?

CA - R Martin, R Barajas

1B - M Jacobs, Thorman, Kotchman

3B - D Wright, Ensberg

2B - Weeks, Kent

SS - Lugo

OF - Abreu, Pierre, Alou, Ethier, J Guillen, L Gonzalez

SP

Schmidt

Papelbon

Wainwright

J Johnson

Bonser

Hensley

Loaiza

Oliver Perez

K Wells

J Hirsch

RP

Lidge

Pineiro

Guardado You are one of the folks on here that I read pretty much everything you write because I usually learn something. With all due respect that draft was not your finest hour. From your wording I get a sense you thought so too.

I am quite sure you will produce a much better product in mid March.

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:44 pm

Originally posted by eddiejag:

I cant believe his infield is the worst.If Chavez can bounce back, along with Blaylock he could have some value here especially where he drafted these guys.Ive always liked Hardy and there moving Hall to the outfield to give Hardy the job.Barfield is a top 5 2nd baseman, [it's possible]. I like this team a lot , and if one of those closers in the waiting pan out , watch out.I would take this team and make the right waiver wire pickups , a chance to win the league. Thanks Eddie,

I like the IF too, Iguchi & Barfield both are very solid players. Last year Barfield hit very poor at Petco.. I see both players .285, 20 hr's with some speed. Chavez & Blalock both with too HS in San Diego both LH and both had nagging shoulders last year, maybe just maybe both bounce back.

See you in Vegas

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:46 pm

Spring training MUST be coming up soon. Damn, nobody wants their beauty sleep tonight, they just wanna talk baseball!

I love it.

Tom and I have another industry draft tomorrow for the second baseball magazine. We'll provide some more results to talk about after that one is done and I'll add a few more rounds of this NFBC draft tomorrow.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:48 pm

Originally posted by Kimo:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I cant believe his infield is the worst.If Chavez can bounce back, along with Blaylock he could have some value here especially where he drafted these guys.Ive always liked Hardy and there moving Hall to the outfield to give Hardy the job.Barfield is a top 5 2nd baseman, [it's possible]. I like this team a lot , and if one of those closers in the waiting pan out , watch out.I would take this team and make the right waiver wire pickups , a chance to win the league. Thanks Eddie,

I like the IF too, Iguchi & Barfield both are very solid players. Last year Barfield hit very poor at Petco.. I see both players .285, 20 hr's with some speed. Chavez & Blalock both with too HS in San Diego both LH and both had nagging shoulders last year, maybe just maybe both bounce back.

See you in Vegas [/QUOTE]If your infield is your weak spot and it is- that is a good team. You have guys who could bounce back, guys who should get better, and a steady hand in Iguchi.

Solid squad

Kimo · Post by **Kimo** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:07 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Kimo:

quote:Originally posted by eddiejag:

I cant believe his infield is the worst.If Chavez can bounce back, along with Blaylock he could have some value here especially where he drafted these guys.Ive always liked Hardy and there moving Hall to the outfield to give Hardy the job.Barfield is a top 5 2nd baseman, [it's possible]. I like this team a lot , and if one of those closers in the waiting pan out , watch out.I would take this team and make the right waiver wire pickups , a chance to win the league. Thanks Eddie,

I like the IF too, Iguchi & Barfield both are very solid players. Last year Barfield hit very poor at Petco.. I see both players .285, 20 hr's with some speed. Chavez & Blalock both with too HS in San Diego both LH and both had nagging shoulders last year, maybe just maybe both bounce back.

See you in Vegas [/QUOTE]If your infield is your weak spot and it is- that is a good team. You have guys who could bounce back, guys who should get better, and a steady hand in Iguchi.

Solid squad [/QUOTE]Thanks Chest,

I thought the team came out fine, it help playing ing the Shawn Childs league this year but I still made some mistakes..

I think I am going too sign up for a couple Satellite leagues, it really helps to get 3 or 4 drafts under your belt before the big day.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:08 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

SP

Wainwright???? [/QUOTE]better for me if he doesn't start, but likely he will

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:26 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Not sure if I like this team or not, not much went as I planned ... opinions?

CA - R Martin, R Barajas

1B - M Jacobs, Thorman, Kotchman

3B - D Wright, Ensberg

2B - Weeks, Kent

SS - Lugo

OF - Abreu, Pierre, Alou, Ethier, J Guillen, L Gonzalez

SP

Schmidt

Papelbon

Wainwright

J Johnson

Bonser

Hensley

Loaiza

Oliver Perez

K Wells

J Hirsch

RP

Lidge

Pineiro

Guardado You are one of the folks on here that I read pretty much everything you write because I usually learn something. With all due respect that draft was not your finest hour. From your wording I get a sense you thought so too.

I am quite sure you will produce a much better product in mid March. [/QUOTE]Thx Chest ... I did forget to add my 4th round pick - Jim Thome - I'd be really under-powered without him, so the offense is better than it first appeared. But honestly, I don't know how I feel about this team. Looking at Jim's team, its kinda the antitheses of mine - I've got a solid IF but a very questionable OF. My pitching staff is a real wildcard too. Could be very good, or a complete disaster. I doubt any other team I draft this year will look much like this one, but I'm not ready to concede yet.

[ January 30, 2007, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:48 am

Good teams all, but I gotta say I like Jim's (Kimo) team best. Starting rotation looks rock solid and the offense (even after absorbing a few substandard BA's) will be great. Catching a break with in-season management of the SB or SV situation could put this team over the top.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:16 am

EK - have you seen ALL the teams?

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:31 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Not sure if I like this team or not, not much went as I planned ... opinions?

CA - R Martin, R Barajas

1B - M Jacobs, Thorman, Kotchman

3B - D Wright, Ensberg

2B - Weeks, Kent

SS - Lugo

OF - Abreu, Pierre, Alou, Ethier, J Guillen, L Gonzalez

DH - Jim Thome (oops, forgot about him at first)

SP

Schmidt

Papelbon

Wainwright

J Johnson

Bonser

Hensley

Loaiza

Oliver Perez

K Wells

J Hirsch

RP

Lidge

Pineiro

Guardado You have a lot of either way guys. Lidge, could be great, could lose his job by June. Many others the same way O. Perez, Wainright, Paplebon, Thorman, Kotchman, Ensberg, Kent, J. Guillen, Piniero, Guardado. Everybody has some of these guys. You have an awful lot of them. If they all bounce back your a genious. If they all flop yikes. Likely some will bounce back, some flop leaving you with a mediocre team. I'd be worried. Not rying to give you a hard time, just telling you how I feel.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:24 am

One more round for today:

FIRST ROUND

1. Albert Pujols

2. Alfonso Soriano

3. Jose Reyes

4. Carl Crawford

5. Alex Rodriguez

6. Ryan Howard

7. Carlos Beltran

8. Johan Santana

9. Chase Utley

10. Vladimir Guerrero

11. David Wright

12. Miguel Cabrera

13. David Ortiz

14. Lance Berkman

15. Carlos Lee

SECOND ROUND

16. Travis Hafner

17. Mark Teixeira

18. Ichiro Suzuki

19. Derrek Lee

20. Bobby Abreu

21. Grady Sizemore

22. Matt Holliday

23. Derek Jeter

24. Vernon Wells

25. Justin Morneau

26. Jason Bay

27. Aramis Ramirez

28. Manny Ramirez

29. Garrett Atkins

30. Jimmy Rollins

THIRD ROUND

31. Jermaine Dye

32. Paul Konerko

33. Joe Mauer

34. Rafael Furcal

35. Miguel Tejada

36. Hanley Ramirez

37. Chone Figgins

38. Andruw Jones

39. Michael Young

40. Chris Carpenter

41. Juan Pierre

42. Brian Roberts

43. Roy Oswalt

44. Victor Martinez

45. Roy Halladay

FOURTH ROUND

46. Carlos Zambrano

47. Felipe Lopez

48. Francisco Rodriguez

49. Joe Nathan

50. Jim Thome

51. Jake Peavy

52. Brandon Webb

53. Johnny Damon

54. Carlos Delgado

55. B.J. Ryan

56. Jason Giambi

57. Hideki Matsui

58. Robinson Cano

59. Billy Wagner

60. J.J. Putz

FIFTH ROUND

61. Mariano Rivera

62. Prince Fielder

63. Huston Street

64. Bill Hall

65. Gary Sheffield

66. Brian McCann

67. Ben Sheets

68. Richie Sexson

69. Coco Crisp

70. Adam Dunn

71. Rickie Weeks

72. Scott Kazmir

73. Chipper Jones

74. Carlos Guillen

75. John Smoltz

SIXTH ROUND

76. Troy Glaus

77. Corey Patterson

78. Torii Hunter

79. Daisuke Matsuzaka

80. Julio Lugo

81. Rocco Baldelli

82. Delmon Young

83. Trevor Hoffman

84. Ryan Zimmerman

85. Matt Cain

86. Todd Helton

87. Alexis Rios

88. Scott Rolen

89. John Lackey

90. Felix Hernandez

SEVENTH ROUND

91. Chris Young

92. Chris Ray

93. Jeremy Bonderman

94. Brett Myers

95. Don Uggla

96. Takashi Saito

97. Bobby Jenks

98. Francisco Cordero

99. Chad Cordero

100. Tadahito Iguchi

101. Brad Lidge

102. Edgar Renteria

103. Aaron Harang

104. Frank Thomas

105. Brandon Phillips

Thoughts?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:25 am

Time to throw another team up here

Drafted from the 12 hole

C - Johjima, Bard

1B - D. Lee

3B - M. Cabrera

CI - Adam LaRoche

2B - B. Roberts

SS - Renteria

MI - O. Hudson

OF - Huff, C. Young, Granderson, Blake, Kotsay

UT - T. Nixon

Reserves - Sledge, Erstad, H. Pence

SP - Kazmir, Matsuzaka, Capuano, Snell, Wolf, Pelfrey

RP - Nathan, Borowski, Wheeler

Reserves - McClung, Farnsworth, J. Sanchez, Hampton

I think this is a pretty good team, but certainly interested in comments or criticism.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:51 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Time to throw another team up here

Drafted from the 12 hole

C - Johjima, Bard

1B - D. Lee

3B - M. Cabrera

CI - Adam LaRoche

2B - B. Roberts

SS - Renteria

MI - O. Hudson

OF - Huff, C. Young, Granderson, Blake, Kotsay

UT - T. Nixon

Reserves - Sledge, Erstad, H. Pence

SP - Kazmir, Matsuzaka, Capuano, Snell, Wolf, Pelfrey

RP - Nathan, Borowski, Wheeler

Reserves - McClung, Farnsworth, J. Sanchez, Hampton

I think this is a pretty good team, but certainly interested in comments or criticism. if you get 200ip each out of Kaz and matazaka then your team will go as far as your OF and util. can take you. If the net performance of your OF/UTIL gives you avg production vs the rest of the league you should challenge. If your OF/UTIL #'s fall to the bottom 3rd of your league then you will be middle of the pack.

Q

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:55 am

Originally posted by Vander:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Not sure if I like this team or not, not much went as I planned ... opinions?

CA - R Martin, R Barajas

1B - M Jacobs, Thorman, Kotchman

3B - D Wright, Ensberg

2B - Weeks, Kent

SS - Lugo

OF - Abreu, Pierre, Alou, Ethier, J Guillen, L Gonzalez

DH - Jim Thome (oops, forgot about him at first)

SP

Schmidt

Papelbon

Wainwright

J Johnson

Bonser

Hensley

Loaiza

Oliver Perez

K Wells

J Hirsch

RP

Lidge

Pineiro

Guardado You have a lot of either way guys. Lidge, could be great, could lose his job by June. Many others the same way O. Perez, Wainright, Paplebon, Thorman, Kotchman, Ensberg, Kent, J. Guillen, Piniero, Guardado. Everybody has some of these guys. You have an awful lot of them. If they all bounce back your a genious. If they all flop yikes. Likely some will bounce back, some flop leaving you with a mediocre team. I'd be worried. Not rying to give you a hard time, just telling you how I feel. [/QUOTE]good assessment actually, though I'd like to think (or at least hope) that I'll have a hit rate of better than 50%

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:01 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Time to throw another team up here

Drafted from the 12 hole

C - Johjima, Bard

1B - D. Lee

3B - M. Cabrera

CI - Adam LaRoche

2B - B. Roberts

SS - Renteria

MI - O. Hudson

OF - Huff, C. Young, Granderson, Blake, Kotsay

UT - T. Nixon

Reserves - Sledge, Erstad, H. Pence

SP - Kazmir, Matsuzaka, Capuano, Snell, Wolf, Pelfrey

RP - Nathan, Borowski, Wheeler

Reserves - McClung, Farnsworth, J. Sanchez, Hampton

I think this is a pretty good team, but certainly interested in comments or criticism. You certainly are not scared to pay a bit of a premium for guys you like- IE B Roberts, Matsuzaka, Chris Young. If that pays off for you fine- if not you may regret not being a bit more patient on those guys.

Overall it looks a lot like the offenses I try to build- good depth, good speed despite not having a guy who will steal 40.

You have 2 guys on my avoid list in Laroche and Capuano.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:01 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

EK - have you seen ALL the teams? Nope. Just commenting on the ones posted to that time.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:05 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Time to throw another team up here

Drafted from the 12 hole

C - Johjima, Bard

1B - D. Lee

3B - M. Cabrera

CI - Adam LaRoche

2B - B. Roberts

SS - Renteria

MI - O. Hudson

OF - Huff, C. Young, Granderson, Blake, Kotsay

UT - T. Nixon

Reserves - Sledge, Erstad, H. Pence

SP - Kazmir, Matsuzaka, Capuano, Snell, Wolf, Pelfrey

RP - Nathan, Borowski, Wheeler

Reserves - McClung, Farnsworth, J. Sanchez, Hampton

I think this is a pretty good team, but certainly interested in comments or criticism. Very nice infield and C's are good. Lots of closers with 1 in the bank guy. sp's lack some depth, short on sb's, and your outfield in general is suspect.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:09 am

I think the biggest problem could loom with your pitching staff. If Wainwright and/or Papelbon close it'll make for a long year, especially with J Johnson on the shelf.

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:21 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Time to throw another team up here

Drafted from the 12 hole

C - Johjima, Bard

1B - D. Lee

3B - M. Cabrera

CI - Adam LaRoche

2B - B. Roberts

SS - Renteria

MI - O. Hudson

OF - Huff, C. Young, Granderson, Blake, Kotsay

UT - T. Nixon

Reserves - Sledge, Erstad, H. Pence

SP - Kazmir, Matsuzaka, Capuano, Snell, Wolf, Pelfrey

RP - Nathan, Borowski, Wheeler

Reserves - McClung, Farnsworth, J. Sanchez, Hampton

I think this is a pretty good team, but certainly interested in comments or criticism. I like this team Captain. Most of your offense is made up of proven MLB players and, absent unpredictable injuries, you pretty much know what level they will produce at. Outfield is the biggest question mark (young Young, underachiever Huff, Blake, Kotsay below the middle of the pack).

Starters are made up primarily of good talent on underperforming teams (TB, MIL, PIT). This could hurt you in Wins, but everything else, including Saves should be ok (Borowski?).

Sorry, but I still like KIMO's team better.

Of course, it is all air until the season starts.

BTW, what round did you get Pence?