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Da bears · Post by **Da bears** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:50 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Da bears:

RP J.J. Putz, Joe Borowski, Brett Myers

pick the one (some may say two

) that is out of place [/QUOTE]Sorry about that I cut and paste my team from mockdraftcentral.com. Forgot that they had him listed as RP instead of SP. Thanks Mark.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:03 pm

Team Herron put the picks with the rounds and this makes it much easier to understand.

Felipe Lopez in the 15th round, last year he went 3rd and 4th maybe he can bounce back .[he young enough] I liked the things Mclouth did late in the season, and Bettancourt in the 22nd was a big suprise.[his numbers say closer]

Just a few things i see with jesse's team.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:38 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

Assumijet- Jay Bruce went 21st round pick 7. I do believe he was the first "tuck away for later help" type pick. Nice draft Kent. Had Gordon queued when you selected him, which I had a suspicion you might.

I do believe Colby Rasmus was the first "tuck" pick at 19.13. MDC had Rasmus ranked higher so this probably prompted the earlier selection....although I would rather have Rasmus to start the season.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:43 pm

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

GLU,

You got Shields! I am so surprised, my friend!

Looks like you have great confidence in OF depth

If Marmol becomes closer, you will end up middle of the pack there for saves.

Nicely done. If Haren had been selected, I would've taken Shields that early...was happy to get him at the 7/8 turn.

I have no conficence in OF depth, but rather I kept missing on the players I wanted and I always love some good pitchers so......

The Marmol pick was a mistake, I will admit that.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:45 pm

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Yeah Wayne, and I am sure he was salivating over Kazmir, but I took him out of his pre-jizz euphoria in the 5th. [/QB][/QUOTE]Ultimately, I would rather have Shields a round later....but yes, I had the sperm guard over the keyboard ready to go:D.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:52 pm

Originally posted by Team Herron:

Love Johjima and especially Sonnanstine. Very soon the ENTIRE Rays rotation will be sought after on draft day

.

About your team, it will probably compete, but I forsee just about every offensive player having a stint on the DL, with a few being extended.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:53 pm

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Team Herron:

Ok, here is my team.

C Johjima, Kenji 10

C Rodriguez, Ivan 11

1B Berkman, Lance 2

3B Ramirez, Aramis 3

CI Rolen, Scott 14

2B Johnson, Kelly 9

SS Ramirez, Hanley 1

MI Lopez, Felipe 15

OF Damon, Johnn 8

OF Willingham, Josh12

OF Ibanez, Raul 13

OF Drew, JD 16

OF McLouth, Nate 17

U Huff, Aubrey 20

P Beckett, Josh 4

P Verlander, Justin 5

P Zambrano, Carlos 6

P Harden, Rich 18

P Sonnanstine, Andrew19

P Silva, Carlos 23

P Betancourt, Raphael 22

P dempster, Ryan 21

P Jenks, Bobby 7

Reserves:

Howell, JP

Weathers, David

Tracy, Chad

Davis, Rajai

Wilkerson, Brad

Meredith, Cla

Johnson, Dan Jessie we have been chattering up on email this morning and I think that is one of the 5 best I saw along with Dan, Kevin,and Matt Mickle. [/QUOTE]I must say I love the differing opinions provided here and throughout fantasyland. I truly forsee this team having problems and you say top 5....I guess that's why we play.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:57 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

GLY - your offense is substandard. hopefully you are good at the waiver wire process GG, if your interested in what I think of your thoughts........

****://nfbcboards.stats.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000498;p=1

That team was in 1st basically all season.

This team will compete AND surprise in quite a few categories. I'll be sure to remind you in October.

BTW, I know it the Offense needs some manicuring.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:59 pm

Originally posted by Quahogs:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

picks from slot #1:

C V Martinez, D Navarro, D Ross

1b C Pena, C Jackson

3b A-Rod

2b R Weeks, A Casilla

SS Tulwotzki, Renteria

Of H Pence

, Victorino, M Bradley

, Baldelli, F Gutierrez, Milledge

, T Buck, McCutcheon

SP J Vazquez, P Martinez, Billingsley, Wainwright , H Kuroda, R Wolf, C Villanueva, R Clemens

RP K Gregg, T Pena, J Benoit, J Duchscherer :rolleyes:

[/QUOTE]Would've loved a respone like this for my team

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:28 pm

i stand by my comments. your O is substandard. with outfielders like this, you better be good at the waiver wire.

OF Jack Cust - .250 or less

OF Jayson Werth - injury waiting to happen

OF Dave Roberts - injury waiting to happen & judy time

OF Jonny Gomes - .250 or less

OF Carlos Gomez - very little PT

captain · Post by **captain** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:57 pm

So here is my squad....

I drafted from the #14 hole

c AJ pierskyskni

c yadier molina

1b richie sesxon

2b dan uggla

ss bobby crosby

3b troy glaus

of grady sizemore

of carlos beltran

of jason bay

of michael cuddyer

of ryan freel

mi tag iguchi

ci casey blake

u travis hafner

p erik bedard

p john lackey

p matt cain

p jered weaver

p aaron cook

p daniel cabrera

p chad cordero

p francisco cordero

p trevor hoffman

ben iwarmura

ben carpenter

ben melvin mora

ben nomar

ben giambi

Give me your thoughts,

Thanks for a great draft !!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:48 pm

you asked for it ...

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Since the results will be published and I don't have any sleepers, here's my team from #15 last night. BTW, we all passed on Santana in the 1st.

C Russell Martin 1/2 turn

C Brian McCann

1B Prince Fielder

1B Ben Broussard

2B Ian Kinsler

2B Howie Kendrick

SS Khalil Greene

3B Josh Fields

3B Kevin Kouzmanoff

3B Mark Reynolds

3B Chase Headley

OF Jack Cust

OF Jayson Werth

OF Dave Roberts

OF Jonny Gomes

OF Carlos Gomez

SP Dan Haren

SP Chris Young

SP James Shields

SP Chien-ming Wang

SP Dustin McGowan

SP Zach Greinke

SP Tom Gorzelanny

SP Ervin Santana

SP Chuck James

SP Jair Jurrjens

RP Carlos Marmol

RP Ian Kennedy

RP Johnny Cueto

RP Kazuo Fukumori

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:58 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

i stand by my comments. your O is substandard. with outfielders like this, you better be good at the waiver wire.

OF Jack Cust - .250 or less

OF Jayson Werth - injury waiting to happen

OF Dave Roberts - injury waiting to happen & judy time

OF Jonny Gomes - .250 or less

OF Carlos Gomez - very little PT FANTASTIC analysis.

Am I the only one who realizes Josh Fields is OF eligible?? Or how about Chase Headley moving to the OF??

I could care less if Gomes and Cust both hit 250...I wanted them for the HR's. I know Cust and to a lesser degree, Gomes, will hit for a low average, but BA is so volatile with many players so you never know.

Again, I guarantee my O is anything but substandard and it will be proven throughout next season.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:02 pm

KEVIN, thanks for the

for my surprise performers!

BTW, I can't wait for Broussard to jack about 30++ this season

.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:06 pm

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Am I the only one who realizes Josh Fields is OF eligible?? Or how about Chase Headley moving to the OF??

how many AB do you project fields for? same question for headly

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:51 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

KEVIN, thanks for the

for my surprise performers!

BTW, I can't wait for Broussard to jack about 30++ this season

. Benny could hit 30 in the next TWO years, but I doubt it. I think Milton outslugs him this year.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:59 am

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

i stand by my comments. your O is substandard. with outfielders like this, you better be good at the waiver wire.

OF Jack Cust - .250 or less

OF Jayson Werth - injury waiting to happen

OF Dave Roberts - injury waiting to happen & judy time

OF Jonny Gomes - .250 or less

OF Carlos Gomez - very little PT FANTASTIC analysis.

Am I the only one who realizes Josh Fields is OF eligible?? Or how about Chase Headley moving to the OF??

I could care less if Gomes and Cust both hit 250...I wanted them for the HR's. I know Cust and to a lesser degree, Gomes, will hit for a low average, but BA is so volatile with many players so you never know.

Again, I guarantee my O is anything but substandard and it will be proven throughout next season. [/QUOTE]1) Fields is not guaranteed enough AB to worry about his OF qualification. IMO if Crede is back and starting, Fields is on the bench (unless Quentin AND Owens AND Sweeney tank in spring training) You may have remembered his OF eligibility but forgotten about the trade which virtually takes him out of shot at starting in the OF

2) Headley to the OF is interesting to speculate on, but to my knowledge not something the Padres have considered (so far)and frankly I don't think he is as strong a hitting prospect as many others (but of course I have only seen him in 40+ games

That said, I don't think your OF is as bad as GG does, but it does need to be fortified because it's obviously not as good as you think Patrick.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:07 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

KEVIN, thanks for the

for my surprise performers!

BTW, I can't wait for Broussard to jack about 30++ this season

. Benny could hit 30 in the next TWO years, but I doubt it. I think Milton outslugs him this year. [/QUOTE]I think there is a better chance of Milton just plain slugging him

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:24 am

I will weigh in on Patrick's team. I like Patrick a lot but I think that team is pretty terrible. Of course I thought his team that won a league last year was terrible and he proved that wrong. So I kind of have a wait and see approach to it.

I think if he wins with it you have to label him an out of the box thinker who gets results. I think if he gets clobbered with it- it is a good example of what works in a satellite against the crazy like a fox's of the world does not exactly work against KJ Duke, Dan Kenyon, and the Matt Mickles of this contest.

I do think Patrick has excellent player evaluation skills, just maybe tries to "stand out" a bit too much with radical picks. IMO if he played it a tad bit more conservative at times he would not be a guy I would want at my table in March.

Either way I mean terrible in the most constructive way possible and wish you luck in the league this year.

One last thought if that team finishes 6-8 it would not shock me. The starting pitching and batting avg is too good. The key question for him in evaluating after next season IF it it does not do well- is did the team under any circumstance have a shot at winning?

My worst finish in any type league is 9th but my worst team finished 6th exactly for the same reasons I listed above. The core was good enough to get it to 6th but I had no scenario after draft day to win.

[ December 20, 2007, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: Chest Rockwell ]

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:31 am

Originally posted by captain:

So here is my squad....

I drafted from the #14 hole

c AJ pierskyskni

c yadier molina

1b richie sesxon

2b dan uggla

ss bobby crosby

3b troy glaus

of grady sizemore

of carlos beltran

of jason bay

of michael cuddyer

of ryan freel

mi tag iguchi

ci casey blake

u travis hafner

p erik bedard

p john lackey

p matt cain

p jered weaver

p aaron cook

p daniel cabrera

p chad cordero

p francisco cordero

p trevor hoffman

ben iwarmura

ben carpenter

ben melvin mora

ben nomar

ben giambi

Give me your thoughts,

Thanks for a great draft !! A lot of players I like but 3 major questions:

1) Do you see anything but a one in batting avg with that infield leading the way? Even your studs are not great batting avg guys.

2) Where is the speed? Banking on Freel for anything is a risky proposition IMO.

3) Why draft 3 closers in the first 10 picks in any draft- much less one with this much time until opening day and one in which the guy drafting right next to you was punting saves making them cheaper.

You did snake Chad Cordero from me- b/c I said no way he drafts a 3rd and with Patrick punting, and Mickle using a top 2 pick on a pitcher. Cordero comes back right- negative you got me.

I think all in all I like a lot of your players on their own. It is how they come together as a core and how that reflects in points that concerns me.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:16 am

In looking at the rosters, I'm interested in knowing which teams finished in the top three and bottom three based on mockdraftcentrals new draft scoring software...I'm curious as to what order of picks may work best/worst. Thx

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:29 am

Originally posted by cindy:

In looking at the rosters, I'm interested in knowing which teams finished in the top three and bottom three based on mockdraftcentrals new draft scoring software...I'm curious as to what order of picks may work best/worst. Thx I hope that whoever puts together MDC's numbers is in my league next year.Kevin D had the worst draft according to MDC. His draft was fine, MDC's predictions aren't.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:02 am

which roster is Kevin D's? of the ones I have read on this post, Team Herron seems to be the best. Is there a way I can read the projected standings? If not can someone from the draft post it here? That would be appreciated.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:07 am

Herron's team is ranked 6th.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:12 am

Thank you Doughboy. Would you be against copy/pasting it here?