Formatting of stats reports

751542 · Post by **751542** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:04 pm

Originally posted by jaybvl:

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!! please some one contact me, childs, jupinka, koq, gekko, doughy... anyone.... on the live standings format it is horrible!!! it has no flow....is a 10 year old setting it up?? GREG PLEASE PULLUP SOMEONES LIVE STATS...ITS HORRIBLE...FIX IT YESTERDAY PLEASE!!!!

jaybvl · Post by **jaybvl** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:06 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

Why has % owned and % started not been added to the "set line-ups" page? This has been brought up numerous times! Should be a simple fix.

The season is 5 days old and we are not even close to having what we had the past few years. I thought Fanball was an upgrade. This is very frustrating!!!!! What's the point of % owned on lineup page? [/QUOTE]Too see if we are on par with other teams competing in other leagues. You can gauge how strong your roster is compared to other owners. Not a necessity, but it was fun to look at! For instance, an I the only person starting Pennington??

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:06 pm

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!! please some one contact me, childs, jupinka, koq, gekko, doughy... anyone.... on the live standings format it is horrible!!! it has no flow....is a 10 year old setting it up?? GREG PLEASE PULLUP SOMEONES LIVE STATS...ITS HORRIBLE...FIX IT YESTERDAY PLEASE!!!! [/QUOTE]Yes RT, this request has been sent as KJ mentioned earlier.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:07 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

Why has % owned and % started not been added to the "set line-ups" page? This has been brought up numerous times! Should be a simple fix.

The season is 5 days old and we are not even close to having what we had the past few years. I thought Fanball was an upgrade. This is very frustrating!!!!! What's the point of % owned on lineup page? [/QUOTE]You can't make up much ground on the leaders going with the flow of the leaders.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:08 pm

Originally posted by ottawaclo:

thanks greg..sorry for the random noobness on that one..lol Noobness must be a Windy City term. You crazy Cubs' fans.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:10 pm

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!! please some one contact me, childs, jupinka, koq, gekko, doughy... anyone.... on the live standings format it is horrible!!! it has no flow....is a 10 year old setting it up?? GREG PLEASE PULLUP SOMEONES LIVE STATS...ITS HORRIBLE...FIX IT YESTERDAY PLEASE!!!! [/QUOTE]i don't use live stats until maybe sept or oct. sorry RT. pagin mr childs on this one!!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:11 pm

Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!! please some one contact me, childs, jupinka, koq, gekko, doughy... anyone.... on the live standings format it is horrible!!! it has no flow....is a 10 year old setting it up?? GREG PLEASE PULLUP SOMEONES LIVE STATS...ITS HORRIBLE...FIX IT YESTERDAY PLEASE!!!! [/QUOTE]RT - what I suggested was ---

BA R RBI HR SB H AB --- and to have this order consistent across various locations.

The point is to have the 5 scoring cats upfront to satisfy those who only want to see the scoring cats. For FAAB and stats, I suggested tacking on K - BB and possibly OBP and SLG in the far right columns. (OBP/SLG I don't really care about, but I assume some traditionalists would probably want to see them).

[ April 08, 2010, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:15 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by RoundTrippers:

quote:Originally posted by jaybvl:

AVG HR SB R RBI AB H

The order of the live stats is really getting annoying. Do these programmers even know what baseball is? There is no rhyme or reason to this order. **** poor!!! please some one contact me, childs, jupinka, koq, gekko, doughy... anyone.... on the live standings format it is horrible!!! it has no flow....is a 10 year old setting it up?? GREG PLEASE PULLUP SOMEONES LIVE STATS...ITS HORRIBLE...FIX IT YESTERDAY PLEASE!!!! [/QUOTE]RT - what I suggested was ---

BA R RBI HR SB H AB

--- and to have this order consistent across various locations.

The point is to have the 5 scoring cats upfront to satisfy those who only want to see the scoring cats.

For FAAB and stats, I suggested tacking on K - BB and possibly OBP and SLG in the far right columns. OBP/SLG I don't really care about, but I assume some traditionalists would probably want to see them. [/QUOTE]Sorry KJ, but that order is goofy. I can't believe that people would prefer that over this

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:17 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

Sorry KJ, but that order is goofy. I can't believe that people would prefer that over this

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG when i go to use it later in the year, got to agree with lint trap on this one

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:31 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

Sorry KJ, but that order is goofy. I can't believe that people would prefer that over this

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG What possible rationale could you have for this order? Talk about random.

Rationale as I proposed:

1) Scoring cats in the first 5 columns, for those who want to look no further.

2) R and RBI together, those are the production stats, logical they are together.

3) HR and SB, power and speed stats together.

4) H-AB together, obvious.

5) K-BB together, obvious.

If you want to go traditional, which I don't think is fantasy-friendly, but I could live with it - I would to with the old box score format:

AB - R - H - RBI - BB - SO - HR - SB - AVG

(Adding HR and SB for LOB, which we obviously don't need).

And the box score format for pitching:

IP - H - ER - BB - SO - HR - ERA - WHIP

(WHIP added, R deleted).

[ April 08, 2010, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:00 pm

Yahoo:

H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG

ESPN:

H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG

Shandler:

AB R HR RBI SB AVG

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:08 pm

Why can't we go like we have had in the past?

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Seem to me this is the standard on most sites. If you want additional info, add it on the end, away from what's important.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:26 pm

Originally posted by Plymouth:

Why can't we go like we have had in the past?

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Seem to me this is the standard on most sites. If you want additional info, add it on the end, away from what's important. I agree....anything add'l should be on the end.

Glenn

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:32 pm

Greg, will real time standings ever be implemented?

I play on a FREE site that has real time standings on the main page, as well as the live scoring. It's been nice to check out the team page to instantly see where each team is in the standings, opposed to waiting until the morning.

Ultimately, it isn't "needed," but if one site hosting 100's-1000's of leagues can perform this function, I'm guessing fanball could as well.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:36 pm

Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Where is this standard? It isn't a standard box score, it isn't on CBS and it isn't on wcofb/rt sports.

And please explain the logic.

[ April 08, 2010, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:38 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]Why explain it. It's what we prefer. As I sugested would be the case

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:39 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]It's the standard and familiar.

Glenn

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:40 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]Why explain it. It's what we prefer. As I sugested would be the case [/QUOTE]Hate it, no logic, as you just confirmed.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:40 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]It's the standard and familiar.

Glenn [/QUOTE]It isn't standard anywhere that Ive ever played.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:43 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]It's the standard and familiar.

Glenn [/QUOTE]It isn't standard anywhere that Ive ever played. [/QUOTE]Read Lance's post above....I'm sure I can rustle up a few more examples if necessary.

Hope all is well KJ...

Glenn

Navel Lint · Post by **Navel Lint** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:44 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Glenneration X:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Please explain the logic of this. [/QUOTE]It's the standard and familiar.

Glenn [/QUOTE]It isn't standard anywhere that Ive ever played. [/QUOTE]But your format of

BA R RBI HR SB H AB

is? :rolleyes:

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:46 pm

Originally posted by Navel Lint:

But your format of

BA R RBI HR SB H AB

is? :rolleyes: Logical and analytical. At least I have a reason. When someone tells me something should be a certain way, but can't tell me why ... I gotta question the brainpower.

If people want familiar I'd go with the standard box score format. What you've suggested seems pointless.

[ April 08, 2010, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:51 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Read Lance's post above....I'm sure I can rustle up a few more examples if necessary.

Hope all is well KJ...

Glenn Nice try, neither of Lance's examples match up.

And even if it did ... Schandler? That's worth a triple ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:52 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

quote:Originally posted by Plymouth:

AB H R HR RBI SB AVG

Where is this standard? It isn't a standard box score, it isn't on CBS and it isn't on wcofb/rt sports.

And please explain the logic. [/QUOTE]OK, I'll try...

The way it's set up now is pathetic. I guess you used logic when you told them this would be better than before, but it is not.

If you were making a business presentation and were using power point or slides...would you total up things anywhere but the right side or bottom?

It's simply how we read. Top left to bottom right. Same for bill totals, receipts, etc, etc, etc.

Having these stats END in R HR RBI SB AVG is very comfortable, and you trying to make everyone re-learn how to read a stat line is a bit silly IMO.

Like I said...Runs are placed in front of Home Runs, followed by RBI's in so many different baseball formats it's become the norm. Having a summary stat (like Average) at the far right is a great place for it, as it is a total from a calculation. (like a receipt)

It just makes sense to keep things the way we are comfortable looking them over. I'd say if you are going to tack on a bunch of other stuff...tack it one to the beginning of the rows (left side) as to keep the good old classic view un cluttered on the right side, in case one wishes to bypass all the clutter.

As long as the final five rows have R HR RBI SB AVG...knock yourself out with the logic of cluttering the left rows. CBS sucks...you have to dig through 2B BB 3B etc to find the counting stats.

The way it is set up now is pathetic. The daily summary should be at the bottom of the "starters". The hitters should be separated from the bench. Same for the Pitchers. Starters, then summary of the day below that, then bench. The weekly and yearly totals should be below that. It would make things crystal clear.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:54 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

The way it is set up now is pathetic. The daily summary should be at the bottom of the "starters". The hitters should be separated from the bench. Same for the Pitchers. Starters, then summary of the day below that, then bench. The weekly and yearly totals should be below that. It would make things crystal clear. This I agree with. The first part of what you said, not at all.