Integrity

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:30 pm

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Why is Gekko aloud to make posts like the one in the first page of the "I Apolagize" thread when other people get kicked off these boards for it? Thanks. That post has been edited. If Mark or anyone creates a thread and drops the F bomb in several posts in succession they will be dealt with accordingly. [/QUOTE]it was in a thread called "I apologize".

I apologize

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:44 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Why is Gekko aloud to make posts like the one in the first page of the "I Apolagize" thread when other people get kicked off these boards for it? Thanks. That post has been edited. If Mark or anyone creates a thread and drops the F bomb in several posts in succession they will be dealt with accordingly. [/QUOTE]it was in a thread called "I apologize".

I apologize [/QUOTE]I hear you aloud and clear!

lschechter · Post by **lschechter** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:46 pm

Spelling errors are not aloud on this board.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:47 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Why is Gekko aloud to make posts like the one in the first page of the "I Apolagize" thread when other people get kicked off these boards for it? Thanks. That post has been edited. If Mark or anyone creates a thread and drops the F bomb in several posts in succession they will be dealt with accordingly. [/QUOTE]it was in a thread called "I apologize".

I apologize [/QUOTE]I hear you aloud and clear!

[/QUOTE]I think you spelling is excellent, Lance!

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:49 pm

My cheeks hurt from laughing!

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:49 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Why is Gekko aloud to make posts like the one in the first page of the "I Apolagize" thread when other people get kicked off these boards for it? Thanks. That post has been edited. If Mark or anyone creates a thread and drops the F bomb in several posts in succession they will be dealt with accordingly. [/QUOTE]it was in a thread called "I apologize".

I apologize [/QUOTE]I hear you aloud and clear!

[/QUOTE]I think you spelling is excellent, Lance!

[/QUOTE]HARRRRRRRDY HARRR HARRR, To the moon, Alice!!

High Octane Baseball · Post by **High Octane Baseball** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:49 pm

Originally posted by Piggy:

Greg, I will say this and then I am done with this issue...I said part of this in another thread but I want you to see it...it does not seem right to give the individuals who had FAAB bidz an option to have part of a cheat game and be able to take advantage of it...they were allowed to take Padilla or others out and those of us who did not have FAAB bids were allowed to take players out and why I begged for a cheat day once the FAAB got foulked up because those with FAAB bids in the system were going to get an advantage no matter how slight. They got the option to take Padilla out, myself and others did not, which makes an uneven playing field...You made the decision to not police the FAAB bid moves and even if I don't like it I will live with it...and it does not mean I don't trust you now, it just meanz you made a tough decision I did not like...we are good...

Rock on... This guy has a very valid point...

Because guys had bids in they were allowed the option of changing their lineups? What about the guys with no bids in?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:50 pm

ponit, he has a ponit.

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:54 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Larry Schechter:

GREG -- I agree with M Co. I read the threads and nobody accused you of a lack of integrity. We don't need a lot of different threads on this. You can ask Mark your question here. [/QUOTE]I don't care who likes Mark and who hates him. That has nothing to do with any of this.

What he did was within the rules set forth by Greg last Monday.

Finally, here's the question and it is to you, Mark. Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings or had you decided to bench Padilla before the game started? Your answer to the question will obviously show whether you made the Padilla decision with integrity or without it.

DoubleX · Post by **DoubleX** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:59 pm

Why were there roster moves not allowed if they were ALL legal?

I guess that is a question for Greg, Tom and Geoff.

How many roster moves did you reverse or not allow? I think that this is a fair question.

I would also like to state that I understand you all had thousands(?) of roster moves emailed to you and I don't fault any of you for the situation you were put in.

I do feel that some sort of transparency here is important from Fanball.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:03 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

Finally, here's the question and it is to you, Mark. Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings or had you decided to bench Padilla before the game started? Your answer to the question will obviously show whether you made the Padilla decision with integrity or without it. well, if you can remember last sunday/monday it was complete chaos. i'm not sure about you, but i need to know what free agents i acquire before i can decide who to play or not play. moyer was high on my list of "acquires" last week. i acquired him and started him in multiple faab leagues. i also started padilla in multiple faab leagues (even where i picked up freeagent pitchers) and multiple slow draft leagues.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:06 pm

I'll take the full refund.

thinkjohn · Post by **thinkjohn** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:07 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Catch:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

You guys have little or no evidence to condemn Gekko -- let it go already! KOQ, I'll give you proof, look @ your moves:

King of Queens Activate Brad Ziegler P 4/05/2010 4:26 PM ET

King of Queens Bench Joba Chamberlain Bench 4/05/2010 4:26 PM ET

King of Queens Activate Brad Ziegler P 4/05/2010 11:44 AM ET

King of Queens Bench Joba Chamberlain Bench 4/05/2010 11:44 AM ET

KOQ, from the looks of it you have PROOF....question for you to answer, where does GEKKO have PROOF of making a Padilla move prior to opening day? Let's tell it like it is, GEKKO simply took advantage of the FAAB debacle and NFBC will let it ride unfortunately. [/QUOTE]How could he prove the Moyer move? Moyer was a conditional bid for him last week, meaning Moyer never appeared on his roster until after the game had started.

As far as I know, he had Padilla in his starting lineup prior to the FAAB corrections.

What proof would you deem acceptable? [/QUOTE]King of Queens, the voice of reason.

Fact is that Gekko knew he got Moyer because he started him for Pavano at 11:36.

This then changed to starting Moyer for Padilla in the email at 2:15 ET, after Padilla got hit around.

Guess Who? Auction Activate Jamie Moyer P 4/05/2010 2:30 PM ET

Guess Who? Auction Bench Vicente Padilla Bench 4/05/2010 2:30 PM ET

Guess Who? Auction Activate Jamie Moyer P 4/05/2010 11:36 AM ET

Guess Who? Auction Bench Carl Pavano Bench 4/05/2010 11:36 AM ET

Again, 11:36 he made the move he wanted and then changed his mind once the games started. He got the same player in the FAAB each run.

I sent this in as soon as I saw it last week to try to see if they would contact Mark about this and nothing came of it.

Nothing else should matter.

Ando · Post by **Ando** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:09 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

Finally, here's the question and it is to you, Mark. Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings or had you decided to bench Padilla before the game started? Your answer to the question will obviously show whether you made the Padilla decision with integrity or without it.

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well, if you can remember last sunday/monday it was complete chaos. i'm not sure about you, but i need to know what free agents i acquire before i can decide who to play or not play. moyer was high on my list of "acquires" last week. i acquired him and started him in multiple faab leagues. i also started padilla in multiple faab leagues (even where i picked up freeagent pitchers) and multiple slow draft leagues.

Nice "answer".

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:15 pm

Originally posted by thinkjohn:

I sent this in as soon as I saw it last week to try to see if they would contact Mark about this and nothing came of it.

"think"john - seeing how bids were all messed up, there's no telling if i would have gotten moyer after the bids were rerun.

are some of you really this dense??? am i dealing with grade schoolers here???

how bout you try and manage your team instead of trying to be a nancy drew

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:15 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by rkulaski:

Finally, here's the question and it is to you, Mark. Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings or had you decided to bench Padilla before the game started? Your answer to the question will obviously show whether you made the Padilla decision with integrity or without it. well, if you can remember last sunday/monday it was complete chaos. i'm not sure about you, but i need to know what free agents i acquire before i can decide who to play or not play. moyer was high on my list of "acquires" last week. i acquired him and started him in multiple faab leagues. i also started padilla in multiple faab leagues (even where i picked up freeagent pitchers) and multiple slow draft leagues. [/QUOTE]I read a paragraph and have no clue if you answered my question. Let me try again,

Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings of his game? Just answer "yes" or "no". I can figure out the rest from there.

DoubleX · Post by **DoubleX** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:17 pm

Yea, shame on an owner after seeing this for trying to get answers on a very shady move.

The nerve of him.......

lschechter · Post by **lschechter** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:22 pm

So, yes, Gekko didn't know if he'd still get Moyer or not. But when he did get Moyer again, he benched Padilla, who'd been knocked around...not Pavano, whom he originally had benched. Yeah, I think we have a smoking gun.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:22 pm

Ya know, more importantly that the actual topic of this thread

, if you add up the pages of all three threads covering this subject (Gekko-Your Team, Rollins not a 'rollin, and this thread of course), we're on page 12 in less than 8 hours.

At this pace, we should surpass the AC Main Event pitching run thread (15 pages) by the time I hit the sack & the infamous Blanton thread of last season (22 pages) by morning coffee.

Mark, if you got paid for creating message board participation, you wouldn't need the 100K main event prize. Just trying to help you out with a potential business opportunity.

Glenn

M Co · Post by **M Co** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:24 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

are some of you really this dense??? am i dealing with grade schoolers here???

how bout you try and manage your team instead of trying to be a nancy drew

[/QB]You comment on other people's teams more than anyone else on this board. And I'd rather be honest and stupid than brilliant with questionable morals.

thinkjohn · Post by **thinkjohn** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:24 pm

Originally posted by Larry Schechter:

So, yes, Gekko didn't know if he'd still get Moyer or not. But when he did get Moyer again, he benched Padilla, who'd been knocked around...not Pavano, whom he originally had benched. Yeah, I think we have a smoking gun. Take 1 minute to look at the facts and you come to the same conclusion.

Guess Who? Auction Activate Jamie Moyer P 4/05/2010 2:30 PM ET

Guess Who? Auction Bench Vicente Padilla Bench 4/05/2010 2:30 PM ET

Guess Who? Auction Activate Jamie Moyer P 4/05/2010 11:36 AM ET

Guess Who? Auction Bench Carl Pavano Bench 4/05/2010 11:36 AM ET

Nothing else should matter.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:25 pm

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I'll take the full refund.

How about instead Fanball just cuts you a check for how much you could have been expected to win?

I'm thinking it would save some ink on the zeros. I'm thinking there would only be one.

Glenn

[ April 12, 2010, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: Glenneration X ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:27 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings of his game? Just answer "yes" or "no". I can figure out the rest from there. so if i answer no, i'm painted as a liar. if i answer yes, i'm painted as someone with no integrity. if i answer somewhere in the middle, i'm painted as a liar with no integrity.

sounds like a no-win for me. i think i'll keep my reasons to myself. the MB mob can and will infer whatever they want and i'm fine with that.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:28 pm

Originally posted by rkulaski:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by rkulaski:

Finally, here's the question and it is to you, Mark. Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings or had you decided to bench Padilla before the game started? Your answer to the question will obviously show whether you made the Padilla decision with integrity or without it. well, if you can remember last sunday/monday it was complete chaos. i'm not sure about you, but i need to know what free agents i acquire before i can decide who to play or not play. moyer was high on my list of "acquires" last week. i acquired him and started him in multiple faab leagues. i also started padilla in multiple faab leagues (even where i picked up freeagent pitchers) and multiple slow draft leagues. [/QUOTE]I read a paragraph and have no clue if you answered my question. Let me try again,

Last Monday, did you bench Padilla because of his poor start in the first couple innings of his game? Just answer "yes" or "no". I can figure out the rest from there. [/QUOTE]In Mark's defense he is probably thrown off by you not making a reference to the fact your team is off to a pretty good start.

Who made you judge and jury?

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:29 pm

Originally posted by Larry Schechter:

So, yes, Gekko didn't know if he'd still get Moyer or not. But when he did get Moyer again, he benched Padilla, who'd been knocked around...not Pavano, whom he originally had benched. Yeah, I think we have a smoking gun. larry - i guess you didn't get the memo. I RUN MY TEAMS, NOT YOU.

cc: Larry Schechter