John Ely

Edwards Kings · Post by **Edwards Kings** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:15 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Can we please continue to make mountains out of mole-hills, please? Would you like a little cheese with that whine? Are you worried that someone might actually take advantage of a situation to improve their situation (rather than you, I mean)? Your post implies you polled some number of fantasy players, when in fact I see only a few who jump to conclusions, overreact, feign mock indignity. We had some serious problems the first week, but by and large the nuts and bolts are fine. And we are getting better all the time.

Man, get over it! it's obvious you can't read.

i said i didn't have MB access till now. so this is when i'm posting. is that okay with you, wayne? please oh please, wayne.

get off your high horse [/QUOTE]I never even implied you couldn't post and I will not step down off my high horse because you have left a load of cow chips lying around. And while we are in the cowboy motif, you appear the type to raise a lynch mob for a jaywalker.

Upon mature consideration, an email to Greg or Tom usually works very well as opposed to an all caps tantrums on the message board. Do what you want, dude.

And as far as being able to read and comprehend, anytime you want to match reading lists, go ahead.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:18 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

There is nowhere in the rules that state we take out players mid-week when they get sent to the minors.

Greg,

I stuck up for you (more than you know) when Fanball was F'ing you over. But this comment from you is utter ... YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS THE NFBC REMOVED FREE AGENTS PLAYERS WHO WERE NOT DRAFTED, NOT PICKED UP, AND IN THE MINORS. THIS WAS CONFIMMED IN A POST OF YOURS THAT I REPOSTED IN THIS THREAD.

I'M TIRED OF GETTING RAPED BY FANBALL, NOW BY YOU. [/QUOTE]Mark, you can voice your displeasure at any rule possible and make your case professionally. I've never seen anyone on a fantasy board say they were RAPED by the game operator. If you're disappointed with me, you should see how I feel about you right now. Yes, you are the customer and the customer is always right, but not this time. Please, take this act somewhere else going forward.

You are in first place overall and saying we raped you. And you got John Ely in leagues this week. And could have bid on him this week or last week in every league. And you, of all people, never questioned that. Or any other minor-leaguer staying in the free agent pools until now.

I had a professional discussion/shouting match with KOQ today. We agree to disagree on many points. But it was professional. I didn't RAPE him and he didn't RAPE me. I expected no less from you tonight, however. You were spot on.

The rules have been consistently enforced as Glenn stated. Too much gray in the wording, which he acknowledged and helped alleviate. No more RAPING will go on. Thanks for helping eliminate that.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:22 am

Lift. Rug. Sweep.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:24 am

Mark, I already stated my view on the wording of the rule and what I believe to be a previously set precedent by Greg.

Still, I don't understand why you are so upset. You bid on the player and were awarded the player. I would think you'd be happy about the ruling. Please let me know why you are so upset.

Glenn

[ May 10, 2010, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: Glenneration X ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:33 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Please let me know why you are so upset.

Glenn Glenn - I (and many other owners) didn't realize until yesterday that minor leaguers (who weren't drafted but were in the bigs for at least a day) were being kept in the free agent player pool when in past year's they weren't.

this is really just the icing on the cake Glenn. every week there is an issue. my friend and i were joking that come FAAB sunday's how do we really know who is legal and illegal in the player pool. too bad it's not a joke. it's reality. sad, very sad.

let's see what happens when lots of minor leaguers get called up this summer. anyone think fanball will have the correct eligibility listed?

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:57 am

I just want to play the game as we've done for the past umpteen years. Sorry if my frustration is bubbling over. I like many others have limited time to spend on this stuff. It really deflates us when we have to spend unnecessary time on things that were previously GREAT.

I know Fanball is improving, but let's go a week without shooting ourselves in the foot. I love this game, and I desperately want the NFBC to return to being the crown jewel of the fantasy world.

Atlas · Post by **Atlas** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:58 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gekko:

[QB]

sickening. now i know why one of the best fantasy players on the planet took a self-imposed 1 year absence from the MB due to Fanball.

Walla Walla?

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:02 pm

Who left the boards?

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:06 pm

I see Lance posting all the time.

Layin'theSmackDown · Post by **Layin'theSmackDown** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:18 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

Tom - All of this stuff is making me sick. I know it's made a lot of other players sick too. May 10th and we still don't have winning bids in descending order. previously illegal free agents are now legal. bids for EY2 were voided. Derek Holland was added to the FAAB pool apparently because of STATS (not the Fanball IT department, ya right), owners were allowed to substitute players in their lineup in week 1 after the games began, NFBC platform doesn't work on IE, the jeff clement saga, etc...

sickening. now i know why one of the best fantasy players on the planet took a self-imposed 1 year absence from the MB due to Fanball.

i realize you and greg work for fanball, so you got to follow the company line, but from a player's perspective, it's tough paying for a BMW but when you pick it up, you find out you got a Kia Really? Lineup changes after the deadline makes you sick? Really? Are there two gekkos? Maybe i'm missing something but this is a bizzare thread.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:20 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

Tom - All of this stuff is making me sick. I know it's made a lot of other players sick too. May 10th and we still don't have winning bids in descending order. previously illegal free agents are now legal. bids for EY2 were voided. Derek Holland was added to the FAAB pool apparently because of STATS (not the Fanball IT department, ya right), owners were allowed to substitute players in their lineup in week 1 after the games began, NFBC platform doesn't work on IE, the jeff clement saga, etc...

sickening. now i know why one of the best fantasy players on the planet took a self-imposed 1 year absence from the MB due to Fanball.

i realize you and greg work for fanball, so you got to follow the company line, but from a player's perspective, it's tough paying for a BMW but when you pick it up, you find out you got a Kia I haven't seen Quahogs, Doughboys, or CC's Desperados on the boards lately. Who are you referring to?

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:28 pm

Roll Call! Steve? Shawn? Dan? Lance? John Crane?

Ando · Post by **Ando** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:29 pm

"I just want to play the game as we've done for the past umpteen years. Sorry if my frustration is bubbling over. I like many others have limited time to spend on this stuff. It really deflates us when we have to spend unnecessary time on things that were previously GREAT.

I know Fanball is improving, but let's go a week without shooting ourselves in the foot. I love this game, and I desperately want the NFBC to return to being the crown jewel of the fantasy world."

Gekko,

You cashed in your chance to play this game as you've played it the past umpteen years the day you benched Padilla. You morphed into the alter-ego of Vinny PaCheata and the game you have played for the past umpteen years, along with your reputation and integrity, are changed forever.

With this experience under our belts, we have journeyed forward. Among other things in the first 6 weeks you have:

1. Called out a participants mom.

2. Insinuated to Greg that you were raped by him.

3. Told us how you don't worry about the little things in life (this has obviously been quickly contradicted in the past 24 hours).

You are an interesting character, Gekko. For some reason I have yet to figure out, I find you mildly entertaining and have even participated in a conversation or two with you over the course of the past 8 weeks. But man, you gotta learn how to just move on every now and then. This too shall pass as did the PaCheata fiasco. I would have expected that you, especially, would have learned that once the long arm of the law has ruled that the ship needs to sail come hell or high water.

Keep up the interesting banter and REV your FAAB engines for us every Friday. It's funny fodder and somehow, someway has probably influenced a folk or two.

FYI...no need to fill us in when you don't have MB access. E'one in MB Land knows when you don't or when you take a 72-hour sabbatical!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:38 pm

Originally posted by Layin'theSmackDown:

Really? Lineup changes after the deadline makes you sick? Really? Are there two gekkos? Maybe i'm missing something but this is a bizzare thread. oh ya. i don't like anytime the rules have to be bent or broken. if they are, you have to adjust, just like everyone else. that still doesn't mean i like it

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:40 pm

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

I haven't seen Quahogs, Doughboys, or CC's Desperados on the boards lately. Who are you referring to? i'll leave that for you to figure out

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:44 pm

Originally posted by Ando:

You cashed in your chance to play this game as you've played it the past umpteen years the day you benched Padilla. You morphed into the alter-ego of Vinny PaCheata and the game you have played for the past umpteen years, along with your reputation and integrity, are changed forever.

blah, blah, blah. MANY players were benched AFTER the games started. but that little bit of news didn't reach the message board, did it. i guess you are calling ALL THOSE OWNERS cheaters, right?

money never sleeps. learn that one and you'll be a better fantasy player

Oaktown · Post by **Oaktown** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:21 pm

Best part of this thread is when Gekko says he thinks he is doing well. Like anyone in the whole contest thinks Mark doesnt actually realize he is #1 OA by a good amount. Comedy.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:32 pm

Originally posted by Oaktown:

Best part of this thread is when Gekko says he thinks he is doing well. Like anyone in the whole contest thinks Mark doesnt actually realize he is #1 OA by a good amount. Comedy. and he doesn't watch games yet seems to know when guys are warming up or what announcer say on the broadcast. Which one is a bigger lie? The fact he rips Greg and Fanball, makes me want to support them even more

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:39 pm

Originally posted by Ando:

"I just want to play the game as we've done for the past umpteen years. Sorry if my frustration is bubbling over. I like many others have limited time to spend on this stuff. It really deflates us when we have to spend unnecessary time on things that were previously GREAT.

I know Fanball is improving, but let's go a week without shooting ourselves in the foot. I love this game, and I desperately want the NFBC to return to being the crown jewel of the fantasy world."

Gekko,

You cashed in your chance to play this game as you've played it the past umpteen years the day you benched Padilla. You morphed into the alter-ego of Vinny PaCheata and the game you have played for the past umpteen years, along with your reputation and integrity, are changed forever.

With this experience under our belts, we have journeyed forward. Among other things in the first 6 weeks you have:

1. Called out a participants mom.

2. Insinuated to Greg that you were raped by him.

3. Told us how you don't worry about the little things in life (this has obviously been quickly contradicted in the past 24 hours).

You are an interesting character, Gekko. For some reason I have yet to figure out, I find you mildly entertaining and have even participated in a conversation or two with you over the course of the past 8 weeks. But man, you gotta learn how to just move on every now and then. This too shall pass as did the PaCheata fiasco. I would have expected that you, especially, would have learned that once the long arm of the law has ruled that the ship needs to sail come hell or high water.

Keep up the interesting banter and REV your FAAB engines for us every Friday. It's funny fodder and somehow, someway has probably influenced a folk or two.

FYI...no need to fill us in when you don't have MB access. E'one in MB Land knows when you don't or when you take a 72-hour sabbatical! I'm stunned he hasn't called you a sheep, or a tail, or some other name yet.

"Vinnie PaCheata" - LMAO

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:40 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

I just want to play the game as we've done for the past umpteen years. Sorry if my frustration is bubbling over. I like many others have limited time to spend on this stuff. It really deflates us when we have to spend unnecessary time on things that were previously GREAT.

I know Fanball is improving, but let's go a week without shooting ourselves in the foot. I love this game, and I desperately want the NFBC to return to being the crown jewel of the fantasy world. If Glenn had told me that we weren't consistent in our ruling of the Player Pool this year, I would have been disappointed. As he stated, it's been consistent all year long and you also realized that when you bid and won John Ely in leagues yesterday. At no point did you question why he was there or at any other point this season. Nor has anyone else with a player who was promoted to the big leagues and left in the player pool.

Tom and I set the Player pool guidelines with IT when we developed the game. These are our guidelines. We honestly didn't believe we were making a change. Nor do we think the other way was better, if that's the way it was. Why would anyone want us deleting bids during the week or making the player pool more difficult to understand?

As we intended and apparently didn't translate clearly enough was a player pool that allowed pickups once a player is called up. That allows everyone a fair shot at a callup and if he goes back to the minors everyone has the same risk of adding him and storing him on reserve while he's in the minors. It makes for a better free agent pool and an easier to understand player pool.

They get added to an MLB team, they are eligible to be picked up. Nothing in the rules states otherwise. Everyone who got Ely and any other minor-league callup this year had the same shot at him as every other league member. And that's the way it should be.

We will define the player pool as Glenn suggested. We won't need to delete bids individually by league when someone gets sent down, during the week, no less. It's a more fluid player pool. I don't see how the umpteenth other league could be better, if that's how it was.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:53 pm

Ely's been called up and is starting tomorrow.

I'm guessing this thread will die with the callup.

Glenn

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:02 pm

Originally posted by Oaktown:

Best part of this thread is when Gekko says he thinks he is doing well. Like anyone in the whole contest thinks Mark doesnt actually realize he is #1 OA by a good amount. Comedy. i haven't looked at the standings in about 2 weeks. sorry to disappoint

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:05 pm

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

and he doesn't watch games yet seems to know when guys are warming up or what announcer say on the broadcast. the only time i watches games is if they are on at the gym while i'm working out or if i'm flipping channels and i watch a half inning. games are actually very boring to watch. feel free to believe me or not. doesn't matter to me, only to you

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:06 pm

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

I'm stunned he hasn't called you a sheep, or a tail, or some other name yet.

tail is reserved for you jack.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:13 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

and he doesn't watch games yet seems to know when guys are warming up or what announcer say on the broadcast. the only time i watches games is if they are on at the gym while i'm working out or if i'm flipping channels and i watch a half inning. games are actually very boring to watch. feel free to believe me or not. doesn't matter to me, only to you [/QUOTE]I don't believe you, much like with Padilla.