Rate your Draft, Quest for $100,000

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:19 am

Fellas, this was my first year in the nfbc. Let me know what you think.

C Lopez

C Barrett

1b Ortiz

3b Blalock

2b Giles

MI Utley

SS O. Cabrera

CI A. Laroche

OF Wilkerson

0F Monroe

OF Mench

0F Sheffield

0F Mohr

UT Mondesi

P Mussina

P Escobar

P Clement

P Thomson

P Weaver

P R. Lopez

P Dotel

P Mota

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:20 am

Originally posted by UFS:

John... GREG FREAKING ZAUN ??? (I have Todd Greene as my #2 catcher so I'll just shut up, lol)

Super flex man Juan Uribe is fascinating for team management perspective - that's a nice pull.

I'm concerned with Marquis Grissom having a big part of your offense, but who can't fill an OF spot, right? Nix might be your man already...I'd start him over Grissom if he wins the starting job outright.

Hurly Burly hit makes your pitching staff go from 'very nice' to 'pretty good' - but I bet you can manage to scrape up a pitcher or two.

Nice job - the average joe Pitching staff is a little underwhelming until you start to think through the stats each should produce. I think your biggest fight there will be WHIP. If BJ Ryan goes 'Joe Nathan 2004' then you're going to be smiling

Nice draft -

Dave

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Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:23 am

Originally posted by crazytown.gov:

Well, I am one of those guys with the wacky strategies and here is my team from NY league 7

The thing is I'm not sure your offense is really as great as it should be. You skipped your SP and STILL have a ton of risk built in with Bonds, Kearns, Werth, Ensberg, Swisher, Giambi, P. Wilson... you chose a strategy with VERY little margin of error and then invited a bunch of margin for error. I'm afraid you'll finish middle of the pack, but good roster management can elevate you. I didn't have the nuts to go after this kind of lineup. Do well on waivers and you could cash in here - not hard to see the potential!

Dave

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Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:28 am

Originally posted by Chunga:

NY6

pick #7

I like my balance maybe a little weak on speed.

Excelent all around team here. As you note, I think your balance is exceptional. It may bite you a little as you won't necessarily excel anywhere either. Your closer-pool has some issues but hopefully 2 out of those 3 will produce. Getting all 3 to kick out 30 saves would be phenomenal. I think Pinerio will disappoint (for the 100th time) and that Kazmir will scar your WHIP. You have solid bench guys, though so not a big issue. Raffy and Vinny in 2 important power holes has some interesting swing to it. Batting avg. is going to be tough for you... Cruz, Cameron, Raffy, etc.

Good luck,

Dave

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:29 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

DYV JUST FOR YOU TEAM 13 THE ULTIMATE

I THOUGHT 13 IS ONE OF THE 6 TO 7 TEAMS THAT HAVE A MONEY SHOT.ONLY 6 STARTING PITCHERS , ITS AMUST HUDSON AND SHEETS DONT GET HURT.SPEED WAS ALSO A LITTLE LOW . 90 TO 110 STEALS.FIVE 30 HOMERUN GUYS AND GOOD BAVG. GOOD LUCK

Thanks Eddie - I just saw this.

Hopefully that batting avg. will let us play a bit in roster management as needed - nice luxury to have coming out of draft day

Thanks for the post - appreciate it and good luck!

Dave

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:35 am

Originally posted by LB Big Richards:

LV #4, 5th pick:

Little lite on SPs, starting lineup not set in stone considering strong bench.

JP or anyone else, can you run projections for our optimum starters? Thanks.

Opinions appreciated.

Hojin Hojin, you scare me with your teams... it seems you prevent the holes from appearing and barring injury you're always competitive. Like most, a few hot players or brilliant pick-ups and cha ching... as you've proven.

Hojin was the winner of the first major high-stakes money baseball contest in history for those who don't know him

I'm not impressed by your catchers - but they'll probably produce more than mine, so you can tell I'm not a big fan of the catcher value anyway

Meat Hook at 1b? I love Dmitri and all, but that's a lot of load to get out of him. The Robbie Alomar news made your Lugo pick pure gold - he's so underrated, wish I had him!

Juan Gone and Palmeiro? I can't criticize anyone for taking foolish player risk after what I did, but you've got your waiverwire hat on early anyway - Dallas or Phelps or Branyan could pop the 30 HR you're craving at DH

I think your SP's are fantastic - get that Colorado pitcher off your roster, though - you could anger the Roto-Gods by violating the first comandment.

Nice draft, Hojin -

Dave

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sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:38 am

Here's my "All-Star 1999" Team...(I mean "All-RISK" Team) (Looks like Dyv and I are gamblers)

C: Mike Piazza, Matt LeCroy

1B/3B: Mike Sweeney, Scott Rolen, Vinny Castilla, J.T. Snow

2B/SS: Jose Reyes, Omar Visquel, Christian Guzman, Willie Harris

OF: Miguel Cabrera, Barry Bonds, J.D. Drew, LANCE Berkman, Larry Walker, Carl Everett

DH: Frank Thomas

SP: Mark Prior, Freddy Garcia, Orlando Hernandez, Jerome Williams, Kevin Brown, Jose Contreras, Esteban Loaiza, Tom Glavine, Kenny Rogers, Jose Lima

RP: Danny Kolb, Joe Borowski

"tick...tick...tick" (counting down to players coming off DL (Hopefully not too late!)

~Lance

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:40 am

Originally posted by Rey:

OK...I'll bite...Hoping to hear constructive critisism =)

Rey: Don't count on Toby to do much at catcher, rumors everywhere so keep your waiver wire open for his replacement. Again, I won't critique crappy catchers - I believe in that theory myself.

You have to find more OF, as Griffey is dangerous and Baldelli is out for half the season. Klesko can slide to OF but then your util is Ginter? Better watch for the first solid bat you can find. I'm concerned with your power numbers - barring 50 from Griffey I think you may struggle to be average with RBI and HR. Batting avg. and speed look good!

Your SP docket is loaded - bullpen a tad weak. Chacin seems to be working himself out of a job in Spring Training so maybe you'll clear that roster spot to play with.

All in all an average draft - work waivers for power and play matchups with your medium quality pitchers.

Good luck,

Dave

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Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:42 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

Fellas, this was my first year in the nfbc. Let me know what you think.

I love it. Your speed numbers are mediocre, your #5 OF may not play much. Util is a coin toss, but a solid gamble IMHO. Your pitching (If Mussina can get back to form!) is excellent. I think your 2 closers are very underrated and will both be top 10 this year. Nicely done there.

You need some backups in case your OF develops a leak, but all in all a very competitive team.

Good luck,

Dave

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Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:45 am

Not happy with my team at all. I need a lot of things to fall my way this year. I'm weak at HR's and RBI's otherwise not so bad other than some high injury risk. I was in chi 2 with the 10th overall pick. Had a Very weird draft in our league in round 3 we had a very big closer run, 3-1 Gagne, 3-3 Lidge, 3-8 F. Cordero, 3-11 Rivera, 3-12 F. Rodriguez, 3-13 Foulke, 3-14 Dotel, 4-1 Wagner, 4-3 Isringhuasen, Then I took the 10th closer in the 4th round with Nathan. I didn't want to draft a closer that soon but I had too because of how the draft was going. I also missed out on a good SS as the big 7 were gone before my 3rd pick! Some teams went with the runs and others cashed in on some big hitters and pitchers in the 4th and 5th round. Here is my team I give it a low C high D

C IRod (5)

C Barajas (24)

1B Wilkerson (8)

3B McPherson (18)

CI Castilla (23)

2B Giles (3)

SS Izturez (10)

MI Upton (15)

DH Durazo (16)

OF Pierre (2)

OF Ordonez (7)

OF Berkman (9)

OF Bigbie (20)

OF Swisher (22)

B 2B Burke (21)will start MI or Lopez

B 1B Hatteberg (25)will start CI with mcpherson out

B SS Jose Lopez (28)

B OF Danny Batista (29) need to pick up a new OF or 1B (wilk) to take OF spot for Berkman

SP Santana (1)

SP Hudson (6)

SP Buerhle (11)

SP R. Lopez (13)

SP Jerome Williams (17)

SP Contreras (19)

SP Dan Meyer (26)

CL Nathan (4)

CL Borowski (12)

CL Adams (14)

RP Otsuka (27)

RP Hudson Street (30)

I will be lucky as hell if I top 250 HR's, I need big seasons from Swisher and McPherson HR wise to give me a chance that and 20 HR's or more from Maggs and Berkman.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:46 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Here's my "All-Star 1999" Team...(I mean "All-RISK" Team) (Looks like Dyv and I are gamblers)

"tick...tick...tick" (counting down to players coming off DL (Hopefully not too late!)

~Lance Lance, I'm feeling ya here, bro... you and I will watch our pre-season and April with a lot of anxiety. I intend to meditate while watching games when the announcers talk nonstop about my guys who are out another 3, 2, 1 weeks...

Piazza is due for a last hurrah, I would have liked to find him for fair value but he was taken too early in my draft. LeCroy is interesting - man if he could just get some PT.

I think you have some major trouble in that Carl Everett and Frank Thomas are both ONLY eligible at DH - perhaps you can ride Everett until Hurt gets back and then Everett will get Hurt and Hurt will play

You'll need to juggle that pitching staff for a bit - pull back some of the mediocre guys when matchups dictate. I would think softening your ERA/WHIP with some superb middle relievers might be a good plan. Right now your ERA and WHIP could scare small children - especially without Prior pulling them all down towards Earth.

Waivers are calling you: They want you to find another OF for insurance

Good luck,

Dave

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KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:52 am

Originally posted by Dyv:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

13th pick in LV. If anyone would like to comment I'll reciprocate if you post your team.

KJ, I think I like the Crawford play at #13, but it seems like you had to pound some more sluggers to offset the far far below normal number from Carl for HR and RBI. I would have liked to see you with a better/more solid #5 OF and a better Corner Infielder. Your pitching is strong, though - so perhaps you built in the right spots and one of your fliers at OF will come through. For my sake, I hope it's Taveras as I have him, too - but for your sake I hope it's one of the heavy hitters instead. Obviously if you hit the waivers the right way you could fill your holes rather easily.

I actually think Mike Adams could be superb to round out your nasty bullpen.

[/QUOTE]Agreed on CI and 5th OF, planned on taking Chipper at CI, missed by two picks so I had to wait until I saw good value, which was late. Atkins and Koskie could be very good value for where I got them. Also missed on C Wilson, planned to take him what I thought was 2-3 rounds early and it ended up being two picks late (same guy stole him). Also thought I could get Wily Mo or Werth late, missed on those two, so I loaded up on OF fliers hoping one comes through. As for Taveras, I hope he's the one that comes thru too, after Crawford I really don't have a lot of speed.

Didn't plan to take pitching early, but it seemed like the whole lge had a hit first strategy, so I did a 180 and went after a strong staff with some early picks (Schmidt in the 2nd, Gagne in the 3rd, Oliver Perez in the 5th and F Garcia in the 10th).

let me take a look at your roster ...

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:56 am

Thanks Dyv...

I agree with your thoughts. I plan to be evry active in FA bidding.

Carl Everett had 34 games in OF, and is listed in NFBC OF list. (You scared me)

~Lance

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:56 am

Too many teams to comment on Early leaders are KJDuke and Eddiejag both with Schmidt and Ol. Perez early (My top two SP). Along with other other solid players later. eddiejag got Berroa in the 13th I took him in the 8th. My other overlap was Troy P (both in the tenth). For me to like a team they need to have players I like.

Dave Clum - Josh Phelps does change things. He is the type of player that could break out. If you are solid and hit on Josh Phelps with 40+ homeruns from your backup at CI/DH you can pick up 21 homeruns and that is 75 rank points without any runs or RBI's credit.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:03 am

Originally posted by Snord35:

Not happy with my team at all. I need a lot of things to fall my way this year. I'm weak at HR's and RBI's otherwise not so bad other than some high injury risk. I was in chi 2 with the 10th overall pick. Had a Very weird draft in our league in round 3 we had a very big closer run, 3-1 Gagne, 3-3 Lidge, 3-8 F. Cordero, 3-11 Rivera, 3-12 F. Rodriguez, 3-13 Foulke, 3-14 Dotel, 4-1 Wagner, 4-3 Isringhuasen, Then I took the 10th closer in the 4th round with Nathan. I didn't want to draft a closer that soon but I had too because of how the draft was going. I also missed out on a good SS as the big 7 were gone before my 3rd pick! Some teams went with the runs and others cashed in on some big hitters and pitchers in the 4th and 5th round. Here is my team I give it a low C high D

I will be lucky as hell if I top 250 HR's, I need big seasons from Swisher and McPherson HR wise to give me a chance that and 20 HR's or more from Maggs and Berkman. I agree with you there - a very technically 'tight' team in my opinion in that you took very little (I don't see any really...) risk. Berkman maybe being the exception, but with such a known injury and good early recovery progress I'm not convinced that's a pure risk play (ala Griffey). I suppose Mags, but again - not the same class in my mind as he's playing and looking good. I would say you'll neither win the league nor lose it - finishing anywhere from 4-9th. You can exceed that with breakouts as you noted or fall below that with injuries (but 3-4 injuries, not just one IMHO).

Buehrle hurts you early with his injury - I wish you had more upside in your draft, quite frankly. Can Bigbie, Swisher, Upton AND McPherson all have breakout years? You could work that pitching staff to the top and be competitive in batting - that could be enough for you to get in the money.

Good luck,

Dave

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Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:07 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Thanks Dyv...

I agree with your thoughts. I plan to be evry active in FA bidding.

Carl Everett had 34 games in OF, and is listed in NFBC OF list. (You scared me)

~Lance My bad, Lance - I guess I just saw the draft sticker on Saturday was red and then got to wondering if he really did get in his 20. Glad I'm wrong here

Dave

TheKing · Post by **TheKing** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:07 am

Originally posted by Dyv:

quote:Originally posted by TheKing:

Fellas, this was my first year in the nfbc. Let me know what you think.

I love it. Your speed numbers are mediocre, your #5 OF may not play much. Util is a coin toss, but a solid gamble IMHO. Your pitching (If Mussina can get back to form!) is excellent. I think your 2 closers are very underrated and will both be top 10 this year. Nicely done there.

You need some backups in case your OF develops a leak, but all in all a very competitive team.

Good luck,

Dave [/QUOTE]Thanks Dave. I got lucky drafting Alex Sanchez as one of my reserves to help mitigate potentially low speed numbers. I also got C. Guzman really late. Hopefully everything works out.

LB Big Richards · Post by **LB Big Richards** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:09 am

My squad:

C: Olivo, T. Greene

1b: Delgado

2b: Jimenez

3b: Lowell

SS: C. Guillen

OF: Abreu, Sheffield, Hidalgo, Luis Gonzalez, Ibanez

1b/3b: Casey Blake

2b/ss: Some scrub (I can't remember who I got here.. had to leave Vegas on an emergency and forgot all my papers)

Util: Biggio

SP: Halladay, Garcia, J. Marquis, O. Hernandez, Runelvys Hernandez

RP: Takatsu, Guardado, Ayala, League

Bench: Mark Prior, Barry Bonds, Lance Berkman, Wily Mo Pena, Wily Taveras, Vinny Castilla, Dave Williams OK, Dave, I'll give my take on your team since no one else is reciprocating.

Your power numbers look strong with up to seven 30 HR, 90 RBI guys. Speed is lacking but some cheap SBs from Olivo and Tavares will help. I like Blake and Hidalgo to have better than ADP numbers.

Your pitchers are a bit shaky. If Halladay can return to ace form and Prior notches 25 starts, then you have two anchors. Otherwise, El Duque and Runlevys will have to bounce back to pre-injury forms to contribute. But we all know Ws and Ks can be had from the waiver wire. You have two middle tier closers, unless Everyday Eddie struggles with the hamstring injury. I like Ayala to pick up 5-10 saves.

It'll be tough early on with Bonds, Berkman, and Prior. If they're in full swing by May, look out. You have solid contributors at every position. If you can find a SP or two to pan out, a top finish is in sights.

BTW, I hope your daughter is doing better. From the looks of your activity on the boards today, I'm assuming she is.

Hojin

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:09 am

Originally posted by TheKing:

quote:Originally posted by Dyv:

quote:Originally posted by TheKing:

Fellas, this was my first year in the nfbc. Let me know what you think.

I love it. Your speed numbers are mediocre, your #5 OF may not play much. Util is a coin toss, but a solid gamble IMHO. Your pitching (If Mussina can get back to form!) is excellent. I think your 2 closers are very underrated and will both be top 10 this year. Nicely done there.

You need some backups in case your OF develops a leak, but all in all a very competitive team.

Good luck,

Dave [/QUOTE]Thanks Dave. I got lucky drafting Alex Sanchez as one of my reserves to help mitigate potentially low speed numbers. I also got C. Guzman really late. Hopefully everything works out. [/QUOTE]Phew, find out how to sabotage Baldelli's recovery then so Sanchez can fill that gap for you all season. (Or better yet hope someone gets frustrated with Rocco and drops him for you... shhh, don't talk about it anymore)

C. Guzman or F. Guzman? I'm not overly exctied about Cristian's speed capability, although it can't hurt you of course. Freddy is intriguing, but no PT is apparent...

Stop making good moves now

Dave

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:10 am

Dyv

Member

Member # 14

I think you have some major trouble in that Carl Everett and Frank Thomas are both ONLY eligible at DH - perhaps you can ride Everett until Hurt gets back and then Everett will get Hurt and Hurt will play Dave, just an aside, I also noticed that everett is considered a dh only when he played 30 game in the OF last year. The rule about position elig is below.. it's probably a greg or tom ? but you may know the ans. thanks

Q

6. Position Eligibility: Players who played at least 20 games at any position in 2004 will qualify at that position for the entire 2005 NFBC season

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:11 am

Originally posted by LB Big Richards:

[QUOTE][qb]

BTW, I hope your daughter is doing better. From the looks of your activity on the boards today, I'm assuming she is.

Hojin She is Hojin - got out of the hospital this morning and doing much better. Docs don't think any permanent damage but I'm sure the expected round of 5 more specialists will verify or scare us as they want to

(For those that don't know, I had to get out of Vegas Saturday night ... my daughter had a mammoth seizure and was in the hospital.. all is good now, just had to dump out of a poker game and such to get home!)

Thanks for the kind words - and we'll see how the gambits play out, huh?

Dave

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:14 am

Originally posted by Quahogs:

quote: Dyv

Member

Member # 14

I think you have some major trouble in that Carl Everett and Frank Thomas are both ONLY eligible at DH - perhaps you can ride Everett until Hurt gets back and then Everett will get Hurt and Hurt will play Dave, just an aside, I also noticed that everett is considered a dh only when he played 30 game in the OF last year. The rule about position elig is below.. it's probably a greg or tom ? but you may know the ans. thanks

Q

6. Position Eligibility: Players who played at least 20 games at any position in 2004 will qualify at that position for the entire 2005 NFBC season [/QUOTE]You're right Q - he is OF eligible... officially he was in 34 last year, so he should definitely have OF. My mistake

Dave

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:15 am

Originally posted by Dyv:

She is Hojin - got out of the hospital this morning and doing much better. Docs don't think any permanent damage but I'm sure the expected round of 5 more specialists will verify or scare us as they want to

(For those that don't know, I had to get out of Vegas Saturday night ... my daughter had a mammoth seizure and was in the hospital.. all is good now, just had to dump out of a poker game and such to get home!)Dave - Sorry to hear that. I'll keep her in my prayers. If you want to chat offline, send me an e-mail.

Balticsquids · Post by **Balticsquids** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:24 am

Yes,Dave my feelings also go out to you and your family , hope all stays well

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:24 am

Wow...

Hope she's healthy, getting into trouble, and having fun playing in no time! Children have awesome recovery powers! All the best!!!

~Lance