All Time Draft Thread

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:36 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I personally believe that the concerns over a strategic edge that led to the creation and continues after the creation of these blind rounds have been dramatically blown out of proportion. My one contribution to these debates was to recommend not even having blind rounds. That they continue to be such a focus for so many is a bit perplexing and honestly distracting for what this draft was originally supposed to be about.

I'm still having a blast, but I'd much rather focus on the draft itself than any perceived miniscule advantage one drafter may have over another every step of the way. I agree with the sentiment that we should be focused on the players and not worried about squabbling over something small like this. However, since this draft may serve as a template for similar drafts in the future I think it's important to try to iron out the kinks as best as we can . I was also in favor of no blind rounds for the record.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:41 am

I will only reveal the names of the players chosen when Steve and Mark are done with their picks.

Nothing else.

ToddZ · Post by **ToddZ** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:50 am

I'm assuming we will have a wrap-up thread, suggesting tweaks for the next time around but something to keep in mind is Greg has hinted on a couple of occasions he is talking with STATS to get an on-line version of this format.

I'll let you guys convince Greg to have STATS program in blind rounds (though it could be done using a waiver-like mechanism).

While I am here, I am quite pleased to have been proven wrong about the length of the blind round, special thanks to Dan (who better get a free invite to the next run of this format).

But, I am not going to "apologize" for wasting everyone';s time yesterday for suggesting alternate means of doing the blind, something tells me the discussion served as a bit of a kick in the ass to get it done quickly.

Plus, and I actually believe this to be true yesterday, I think we would be a little surprised at how few conflicts there will be, even at the end of the round.

GLG20 · Post by **GLG20** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:51 am

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

I personally believe that the concerns over a strategic edge that led to the creation and continues after the creation of these blind rounds have been dramatically blown out of proportion. My one contribution to these debates was to recommend not even having blind rounds. That they continue to be such a focus for so many is a bit perplexing and honestly distracting for what this draft was originally supposed to be about.

I'm still having a blast, but I'd much rather focus on the draft itself than any perceived miniscule advantage one drafter may have over another every step of the way. Couldn't. Agree. More.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:59 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

I'm assuming we will have a wrap-up thread, suggesting tweaks for the next time around but something to keep in mind is Greg has hinted on a couple of occasions he is talking with STATS to get an on-line version of this format.

I'll let you guys convince Greg to have STATS program in blind rounds (though it could be done using a waiver-like mechanism).

While I am here, I am quite pleased to have been proven wrong about the length of the blind round, special thanks to Dan (who better get a free invite to the next run

But, I am not going to "apologize" for wasting everyone';s time yesterday for suggesting alternate means of doing the blind, something tells me the discussion served as a bit of a kick in the ass to get it done quickly.

Plus, and I actually believe this to be true yesterday, I think we would be a little surprised at how few conflicts there will be, even at the end of the round.

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:00 am

Whoops. Misclick.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:07 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Wonderful game! Not picking on my friend Dan there are others I could have quoted but this one came up first today.........Entertaining game - absolutely.....Dramatic game - for sure....Great or Wonderful game? Absolutely NOT

One of the worst played, worst managed games in World Series history. The Rangers should have been in the clubhouse drinking champagne and celebrating a World Series Win.

We can only hope for a great game seven tonight.......and Ranger fans can only hope for a win that will erase the memories of a game they should have won.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:19 am

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Wonderful game! Not picking on my friend Dan there are others I could have quoted but this one came up first today.........Entertaining game - absolutely.....Dramatic game - for sure....Great or Wonderful game? Absolutely NOT

One of the worst played, worst managed games in World Series history. The Rangers should have been in the clubhouse drinking champagne and celebrating a World Series Win.

We can only hope for a great game seven tonight.......and Ranger fans can only hope for a win that will erase the memories of a game they should have won. [/QUOTE]It WAS a wonderful game, Perry!

The errors and bad Managerial decisions added to the drama.

We couldn't even take a usually easily caught pop up for granted. (Why was Hamilton only on first base in a World Series game?)

My wife asked me why Holland was taken out in the ninth. I replied that Managers are prone to habit and no matter how well Holland was throwing, he feels he has to show confidence in his closer. After the runs were scored against Feliz, she asked about the confidence tomorrow.

My favorite part was just a small thing. Albert takes an o-2 pitch for a strike and it is called a ball.

He takes the same pitch and it is called a strike.

It was like the umpire thought, I gave you your superstar ball, I can't give you two of them!

It was a wonderful game.

Human frailties?

Sure.

But, a wonderful game.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:24 am

We are still waiting on Steve.

A Pacific Standard Time type of guy

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:35 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

We are still waiting on Steve.

A Pacific Standard Time type of guy Nobody knows what time it is in Vegas

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:24 am

I've e-mailed Steve twice three hours apart.

No reply.

I checked and he was on the Boards at this time yesterday. So, I am betting he is awake.

Does anybody have a number for Steve?

If someone can text him, we can get this round concluded.

Texas Connection · Post by **Texas Connection** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:31 am

I'm ready for an all time greats auction in Vegas. I keep waiting for Greg to post on the events schedule.

Nevadaman · Post by **Nevadaman** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:37 am

Hi guys, I just got up. I made a list last night, so I'll email Dough in just a few minutes.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:52 am

Originally posted by ToddZ:

But, I am not going to "apologize" for wasting everyone';s time yesterday for suggesting alternate means of doing the blind, something tells me the discussion served as a bit of a kick in the ass to get it done quickly.

Todd, I don't believe anyone else and I know I'm not asking for an apology from anyone. There's nothing to apologize about. I just believe the discussions on the blind rounds, both the reasons for having it and the tweaks requested to accomodate all concerns, have become the overriding topic of the draft (check how many pages are devoted to it in the various threads of this draft). For instance, yesterday when I called Shawn to get his 4th round choice, I had to skim through a couple thousand posts on the blind rounds to find who was actually drafted since he last checked the boards. Also you are hardly the only person who's participated in this discussion or offered a suggestion on how to improve the process.

Again, no big deal either way and ironically now I've added two posts to the discussion. Now I have to apologize.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:52 am

Thanks Steve.

We are on the final drafter.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:03 am

Alright, we are done with Blind Round #5

Here are the players taken-

Roberto Alomar

Bob Feller

Luis Gonzalez

Gabby Hartnett

Randy Johnson

Chipper Jones

Dutch Leonard

Javy Lopez

Greg Maddux

Juan Marichal

Joe Mauer

Dave McNally

Stan Musial

Tom Seaver

Louis Tiant

I return you to your regularly scheduled program....

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:09 am

Thanks Dan...well done

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:15 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Alright, we are done with Blind Round #5

Here are the players taken-

Roberto Alomar

Bob Feller

Luis Gonzalez

Gabby Hartnett

Randy Johnson

Chipper Jones

Dutch Leonard

Javy Lopez

Greg Maddux

Juan Marichal

Joe Mauer

Dave McNally

Stan Musial

Tom Seaver

Louis Tiant

I return you to your regularly scheduled program.... Given that we took Berra at 4.15 I'd say that amounts to a catcher run

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:18 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Alright, we are done with Blind Round #5

Here are the players taken-

Roberto Alomar

Bob Feller

Luis Gonzalez

Gabby Hartnett

Randy Johnson

Chipper Jones

Dutch Leonard

Javy Lopez

Greg Maddux

Juan Marichal

Joe Mauer

Dave McNally

Stan Musial

Tom Seaver

Louis Tiant

I return you to your regularly scheduled program.... Given that we took Berra at 4.15 I'd say that amounts to a catcher run

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:18 am

I need to stop posting from my phone. Sorry about the double post

Money · Post by **Money** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:28 am

Hey Dan,

Curious if there were any duplicate picks in this blind round? Conventional thinking would suggest that they will become fewer and fewer in the blind rounds to follow. This is a fun draft to watch.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:29 am

At the beginning of the 5th round, I had two hitters well above everyone else. At the conclusion of the 5th round, one of them still remains! I’ll keep the hit parade going and select…

Soriano, A

Year 2002

AB 696

H 209

R 128

HR 39

RBI 102

SB 41

AVG 0.300

G@mblor · Post by **G@mblor** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:32 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

At the beginning of the 5th round, I had two hitters well above everyone else. At the conclusion of the 5th round, one of them still remains! I’ll keep the hit parade going and select…

Soriano, A

Year 2002

AB 696

H 209

R 128

HR 39

RBI 102

SB 41

AVG 0.300 Nice one. We considered him at the 4/5 turn

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:35 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

At the beginning of the 5th round, I had two hitters well above everyone else. At the conclusion of the 5th round, one of them still remains! I’ll keep the hit parade going and select…

Soriano, A

Year 2002

AB 696

H 209

R 128

HR 39

RBI 102

SB 41

AVG 0.300 I also like the Soriano pick.. the real question though, is what pitcher did you take in round 5?