First Look At Satellite League Results

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:28 pm

Originally posted by Hitless:

All this being said, I want to sleep well after the draftThe NFBC is DEFINITELY not conducive to "sleep[ing] well"

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:54 pm

Teixeira? Dunn? Rios? Abreu?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:41 am

Originally posted by Bull Pen Pugs:

Greg, might as well post the results for the Sats since everything is being written in this forum on the players? No? :rolleyes: Nope. Definitely won't do. Enjoy the tidbits.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:15 am

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

True, but he was pitched around last year and had a crummy lineup around him, what's new? Bottom line, his numbers are first round. C'mon. With the knowledge everyone has regarding that elbow, is it worth taking a chance in losing him for the whole year or a major part of it because he could provide some value at that spot? And this is coming from a risk freak.

I've said it many times. He should not be in the 1st round. It's obvious. Why? Because a 1st rounder goes down for year, and you're chances of winning your league are probably 15-1. Why would anyone take that chance?

Even if you're lucky enough for Pujols to stay healthy, how much better will he be than Utley, Cabrera, Holliday? I'm sure a little better but is it worth the risk?

Doughboys, you're supposed to be the voice of reason. Get back on track. [/QUOTE]Albert Pujols is different than most players with the press. He'll actually up play an injury, rather than downplay it like 99% of all players. He always has. From his knee, to his oblique, to his shoulder, and now elbow. The only thing that has changed is the timing, he usually says these things during the season which doesen't effect a draft. The thing that should be focused on through his statements of health is that he has never had less than 525 ab's.

Now, lets take your boy, Soriano. You took him in the first round. He had a bad quad injury last year. He came back with it still gimpy, looking more like Carlos Beltran, hit home runs but virtually stopped running. When he showed up to camp this year, Piniella said that he would go 75% during spring training. When asked about stealing bases, Soriano said that he didn't know, that he would see how the leg feels.

To me, Soriano's story raises a lot more red flags than a paragraph from Pujols. Shandler probably said it best even before Pujols spoke, "This is a rare buying opportunity."

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:51 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Funny, funny KOQ. Rally killer.

Okay, I'll give myself a few to look up tomorrow:

1. Yovanni Gallardo

2. Ben Sheets

3. Rich Harden

4. Cameron Maybin

5. Joe Mauer

Now, back to the Wisconsin game. 1. Yovanni Gallardo: 108, 168, 140

2. Ben Sheets: 153, 93, 113

3. Rich Harden: 161, 153, 188

4. Cameron Maybin: 223, 298, 244

5. Joe Mauer: 52, 75, 69

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:55 am

Originally posted by freddiezee:

Teixeira? Dunn? Rios? Abreu? Teixeira:18, 19, 22

Dunn: 62, 39, 36

Rios: 34, 41, 24

Abreu: 54, 45, 38

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:01 am

1. I still wouldn't take Pujols until mid 2nd-round at earliest.

2. I also won't be taking Beltran or Soriano until 2nd round either. The difference, Dan, in my opinion, is that Beltran and Soriano may not run, but they will still be able to hit just fine. Pujols may not be hitting at all at some point.

3. Crazy, I think Holliday will outperform Pujols even if Pujols does play the whole year. Both hit for high avg., Pujols may hit a few more HR, but Holliday steals bases. I also think Holliday scores more runs and gets more RBI.. although Pujols has shown he can put up big numbers int he past when he was completely healthy and his team didn't suck. I'd still take Holliday.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:24 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

The difference, Dan, in my opinion, is that Beltran and Soriano may not run, but they will still be able to hit just fine. Pujols may not be hitting at all at some point.

You're missing the point.

You're assuming already that Pujols will miss time. My belief is that he doesen't miss time and between the two, Soriano is more at risk of losing playing time.

You don't have to respond I am not trying to change minds, just stating my take on Pujols and now, Soriano. Carry on.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:37 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

quote:Originally posted by Less than Dave:

The difference, Dan, in my opinion, is that Beltran and Soriano may not run, but they will still be able to hit just fine. Pujols may not be hitting at all at some point.

You're missing the point.

You're assuming already that Pujols will miss time. My belief is that he doesen't miss time and between the two, Soriano is more at risk of losing playing time.

You don't have to respond I am not trying to change minds, just stating my take on Pujols and now, Soriano. Carry on. [/QUOTE]well, I'm not assuming so much as fearing it's highly likely he will miss time. Has Pujols made statements in the past to this degree? I don't recall, though he surely may have. The reports on his elbow sound pretty bad though and from everything I have read, he will not be at 100% or close to, and if his elbow flared up last season, why wouldn't it flare up this season as well since he did nothing to fix it? And if he says he won't play through it like he did last year, then it sure SOUNDS like he will miss some significant time this year... unless what you're saying is that he is overdoing it so much that he will just play through it even if it does bother him. I don't know. I guess you know more about how Pujols talks than I do, but I'm still scared to draft him. I'll let you do that

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:41 am

I knew you were a last word guy.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:48 am

hahahahaha doesn't your reply imply that YOU'RE a last-word guy as well?

But seriously, has he done this in the past? Do you really not think he will miss any time this year? I guess what I'm saying is, to me it seems like it's worse this year whereas you seem to think he always does this and it won't be a problem. Am I right?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:49 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

I knew you were a last word guy.

I'll end it: Let's see where he goes in next week's NFBC Satellite League drafts!

Should be interesting going forward.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:33 am

IM not touching him in the first round, why chance it , to many safe choices .

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:29 am

agree. though I fully endorse anyone else taking him.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:52 am

Okay, enough of the petty posts about Ron. Let's get back to some facts. I'm pouring over the three satellite league results from Tuesday and having too much fun. Here's our most consistent pick after the first round:

Daisuke Matsuzaka: 92, 92, 91

More to come soon.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:54 am

Here's a few more players I looked up from the satellite leagues that were interesting to me:

Travis Hafner: 53, 49, 55

Rickie Weeks: 79, 72, 59

Felix Hernandez: 86, 79, 62

Francisco Liriano: 110, 87, 96

Evan Longoria: 229, 230, 196

Geovany Soto: 186, 150, 193

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:03 am

Greg, what about the group of 2B, that are being drafted in round 11-16 in alot of mocks

Sanchez

Hill

Pedroia

Hudson

Ellis

Johnson

Kent

Polanco

Wiggy

Theriot

FLopez

sorry so many but they are all in that 5 round group

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:27 am

Man Ritche Weeks keeps moving up,that suck's.

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:30 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Man Ritche Weeks keeps moving up,that suck's. Lol. I was thinking the same thing. I'm not sure I have the stones to draft him in the 5th.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:03 pm

Originally posted by Bobby J:

Greg, what about the group of 2B, that are being drafted in round 11-16 in alot of mocks

Sanchez

Hill

Pedroia

Hudson

Ellis

Johnson

Kent

Polanco

Wiggy

Theriot

FLopez

sorry so many but they are all in that 5 round group Sorry, fell behind today. I'll look these up tomorrow morning. Crazy day as usual.

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:09 pm

Pujols is an ox, he plays through little things all the time...even whenthey say he will miss time, he plays that night....

he will have better protection this year and more runners on in front of him..last yearhe played on a AAA team and still produced...

as far as his elbow, that sold news, been hurting since 2003....

pujols is a steal past 8......

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:55 am

Originally posted by Bobby J:

Greg, what about the group of 2B, that are being drafted in round 11-16 in alot of mocks

Sanchez

Hill

Pedroia

Hudson

Ellis

Johnson

Kent

Polanco

Wiggy

Theriot

FLopez

sorry so many but they are all in that 5 round group Okay, very interesting Bobby on this group. You are right, they are all over the board and in different drafts they all go in different orders. Here's a look at your list of players:

Freddy Sanchez: 174, 254, 200

Aaron Hill: 171, 186, 188

Dustin Pedroia: 163, 137, 204

Orlando Hudson: 198, 267, 185

Mark Ellis: 269, 220, 221

Kelly Johnson: 173, 176, 139

Jeff Kent: 196, 200, 189

Placido Polanco: 165, 177, 171

Ty Wigginton: 158, 204, 197

Ryan Theriot: 215, 180, 202

Felipe Lopez: 192, 257, 235

Hope this helps.

Raskol · Post by **Raskol** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:00 am

Greg-

You gave us Maybin ( 223, 298, 244). Can you give us Felix Pie and Lastings Milledge too?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:10 am

Originally posted by Raskolnikov:

Greg-

You gave us Maybin ( 223, 298, 244). Can you give us Felix Pie and Lastings Milledge too? Felix Pie: 317, 305, 311

Lastings Milledge: 333, 252, 300

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:13 am

how about Dave Ross?