Loseriano TORCHED_AGAIN!!!

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:21 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

a lot of pitchers bounce back from TJS and are almost back to their original form within 16 months of the surgery.

even if lirinao was almost back to HIS ORIGINAL form, that would still make him a good pitcher.

BUT NOT LIRIANO..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!HE'S A COMPLETE BUST. A SHELL OF HIS FORMER SELF.

ANYONE HAVING HIM CAN KISS THEIR SEASON GOODBYE. MAKES ALL THOSE HOURS OF PREP REALLY FEEL WORTH IT, EH? DUMBASS ME LOOKING AT THE WRONG DATA TO MAKE MY LIRIANO PICK. WITH AS GOOD AS I THING I AM, THIS IS 100% INEXCUSABLE. WITH THE PERFECTIONIST THAT I AM, IT MAKES ME WANT TO QUIT RIGHT NOW. SERIOUSLY.

OH YA...LIRIANO told the coaching staff after his latest start that he had lost the confidence to throw strikes. no confidence and a bum pitcher. great combo.

BYE BYE LIRIANO. Hey GG - As I write this, you are still sitting at #23 overall. You have a very good team and will be at the top all year.

Just recognize that at least 90% of us have no sympathy for your complaining about Liriano. Take me for instance. My main event team BLOWS, and yours is good. We basically have no pitching whatsoever. So, while I certainly like your factual updates on Liriano, I cannot sympathize with one bad pick that you made while you sit near the top of the standings. Almost everybody missed on at least 1 pick, but more likely about 3-4 important picks.

We all make mistakes. Just have some fun and put in all in the right perspective.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:42 am

Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

Was it the computer that called out Liriano's name? all of the pitchers i wanted in the 8th round were gone...maine, gallardo, billingsly. i was "on tilt" and looking at my data sorted the wrong way (by adp) and liriano was at the top. I ALREADY SAID I MADE A MISTAKE so why are you trying to be a funny guy?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:47 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

We all make mistakes. Just have some fun and put in all in the right perspective. i'm not asking for anyone to feel bad for me. i'm using this thread more for venting.

it's easy to say people miss on picks, but i don't buy that, at least for me. i was ready to dominate this year and came away with a flat tire before the race even began. when i realized i picked liriano (MY #2 PITCHER), you can't even fathom the fear, anger, frustration that i felt. HUNDREDS (MAYBE EVEN OVER A THOUSAND) HOURS JUST WENT DOWN THE DRAIN ALL BECAUSE I DIDN'T BOTHER MAKING SURE I WAS LOOKING AT THE CORRECT DATA.

as for being #23 overall, that don't mean shitt. give me the guy i woulda took over lirinao (carmona) and i'd be in the top 10 with my eyes set on #1.

rockitsauce · Post by **rockitsauce** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:31 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

Was it the computer that called out Liriano's name? all of the pitchers i wanted in the 8th round were gone...maine, gallardo, billingsly. i was "on tilt" and looking at my data sorted the wrong way (by adp) and liriano was at the top. I ALREADY SAID I MADE A MISTAKE so why are you trying to be a funny guy? [/QUOTE]Why is he "trying to be a funny guy?"

I think he succeeded.

And maybe it's b/c you won't quit whining about Liriano. Boo freaking Hoo.

Hey maybe that psychotherapy worked for Cabrera, you should contact the Twins and tell'em yer boy Francisco needs some too.

Perhaps you might wanna look into for yourself as well. I mean w/ the "thousands of hours wasted", that must be pretty tough to handle eh?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:04 am

Originally posted by rockitsauce:

And maybe it's b/c you won't quit whining about Liriano. Boo freaking Hoo.

and you keep reading what i post about liriano!?!?!? now that's funny

Windy City Hustler · Post by **Windy City Hustler** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:04 am

Originally posted by rockitsauce:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Windy City Hustler:

Was it the computer that called out Liriano's name? all of the pitchers i wanted in the 8th round were gone...maine, gallardo, billingsly. i was "on tilt" and looking at my data sorted the wrong way (by adp) and liriano was at the top. I ALREADY SAID I MADE A MISTAKE so why are you trying to be a funny guy? [/QUOTE]Why is he "trying to be a funny guy?"

I think he succeeded.

And maybe it's b/c you won't quit whining about Liriano. Boo freaking Hoo.

Hey maybe that psychotherapy worked for Cabrera, you should contact the Twins and tell'em yer boy Francisco needs some too.

Perhaps you might wanna look into for yourself as well. I mean w/ the "thousands of hours wasted", that must be pretty tough to handle eh? [/QUOTE]Rocket, thanks.

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:29 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

a lot of pitchers bounce back from TJS and are almost back to their original form within 16 months of the surgery.

even if lirinao was almost back to HIS ORIGINAL form, that would still make him a good pitcher.

BUT NOT LIRIANO..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!HE'S A COMPLETE BUST. A SHELL OF HIS FORMER SELF.

ANYONE HAVING HIM CAN KISS THEIR SEASON GOODBYE. MAKES ALL THOSE HOURS OF PREP REALLY FEEL WORTH IT, EH? DUMBASS ME LOOKING AT THE WRONG DATA TO MAKE MY LIRIANO PICK. WITH AS GOOD AS I THING I AM, THIS IS 100% INEXCUSABLE. WITH THE PERFECTIONIST THAT I AM, IT MAKES ME WANT TO QUIT RIGHT NOW. SERIOUSLY.

OH YA...LIRIANO told the coaching staff after his latest start that he had lost the confidence to throw strikes. no confidence and a bum pitcher. great combo.

BYE BYE LIRIANO. Hey GG - As I write this, you are still sitting at #23 overall. You have a very good team and will be at the top all year.

Just recognize that at least 90% of us have no sympathy for your complaining about Liriano. Take me for instance. My main event team BLOWS, and yours is good. We basically have no pitching whatsoever. So, while I certainly like your factual updates on Liriano, I cannot sympathize with one bad pick that you made while you sit near the top of the standings. Almost everybody missed on at least 1 pick, but more likely about 3-4 important picks.

We all make mistakes. Just have some fun and put in all in the right perspective. [/QUOTE]Mighty Men,

I really don't look over the other teams' rosters in my league too often once the season gets going...but after reading this post, I had to take a look at your pitching...

Talk about some tough breaks with Pedro, Corpas, P Hughes, Kuo (this week), and the list goes on. I think Hughes will be okay (hopefully sooner rather than later). I just don't know what to think of Bonderman and his control. I was targeting him too in our draft. I'm sure you were thrilled when he was pulled after 4.2 inn this week...

All I can tell you is this: a little less than 2 wks ago, we were in 14th place. With our 1st, 4th, and 5th rd picks on the DL the last 2 wks, we've moved into 4th in the league and the top 100 overall so things can turn around in a hurry in April and May. I know you know this but sometimes it's good to hear that it happens !

(btw, I don't like our new team name but ever since the switch, we've moved up so the new team name remains)

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:14 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

We all make mistakes. Just have some fun and put in all in the right perspective. i'm not asking for anyone to feel bad for me. i'm using this thread more for venting.

it's easy to say people miss on picks, but i don't buy that, at least for me. i was ready to dominate this year and came away with a flat tire before the race even began. when i realized i picked liriano (MY #2 PITCHER), you can't even fathom the fear, anger, frustration that i felt. HUNDREDS (MAYBE EVEN OVER A THOUSAND) HOURS JUST WENT DOWN THE DRAIN ALL BECAUSE I DIDN'T BOTHER MAKING SURE I WAS LOOKING AT THE CORRECT DATA.

as for being #23 overall, that don't mean shitt. give me the guy i woulda took over lirinao (carmona) and i'd be in the top 10 with my eyes set on #1. [/QUOTE]Bottom line- time to stop venting and time to drop Liriano! He's got to go, no way he can find his command for the 2nd half of the season. Beside you got Kuo and his 200k upside - and you know he'll work out since you don't miss on picks.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:32 pm

Originally posted by Hitless:

Bottom line- time to stop venting and time to drop Liriano! He's got to go, no way he can find his command for the 2nd half of the season. Beside you got Kuo and his 200k upside - and you know he'll work out since you don't miss on picks. hey - i knew Victorino wouldn't make it through the season without hitting the DL. leg injuries are killers for runners. at least i didn't get that three-legged dog!!

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:20 pm

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Hitless:

Bottom line- time to stop venting and time to drop Liriano! He's got to go, no way he can find his command for the 2nd half of the season. Beside you got Kuo and his 200k upside - and you know he'll work out since you don't miss on picks. hey - i knew Victorino wouldn't make it through the season without hitting the DL. leg injuries are killers for runners. at least i didn't get that three-legged dog!!

[/QUOTE]well at least my player won't be in the minor leagues anymore by Tuesday ! (that was the best comeback i could come up with)...yes leg injuries and speed guys aren't a good combination... If I hadn't hit the wrong button on my laptop, I could've had Derrek Lee instead of the Flyin Hawaiian and I'd be in the top 10 right now!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:05 am

Originally posted by Hitless:

well at least my player won't be in the minor leagues anymore by Tuesday ! (that was the best comeback i could come up with)...yes leg injuries and speed guys aren't a good combination... If I hadn't hit the wrong button on my laptop, I could've had Derrek Lee instead of the Flyin Hawaiian and I'd be in the top 10 right now! YOU HAVE VICTORINO?? i didn't know that. i was just putting him in the context that i had victorino last year (15th round) and watched him play quite a bit and knew he doesn't have the body type to stay healthy the whole season. with another leg injury, i'm afraid he'll go down as one of the biggest busts this year (along with loserano).

YOU PASSED ON D.LEE FOR VICTORINO?? what round did you take him, 4th?

you may want to go to a new evaluation system next year.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:52 am

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:56 am

Gordon i wouldnt think Victorino will be a bust this year.He comes off the dl this week and should be ready to go.Gordon are you cutting Liriano this week

or are you still holding out hope for him.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:13 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Gordon i wouldnt think Victorino will be a bust this year.He comes off the dl this week and should be ready to go.Gordon are you cutting Liriano this week

or are you still holding out hope for him. victorino is a bust for people who took him in the 4th round. the guy can't even make it through april without getting hurt. couple that with a non-existant 2nd half last year and his PT could be in serious trouble for the rest of this year. NO CHANCE HE SHOULD BE TAKEN OVER D.LEE. NONE

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:49 am

I agree with Derick Lee before Victorino and the 4th round is a little high, but late in the 5th round you can still get value.If Victorino is ready to go i wouldnt worry about losing at bats.He needs to stay healthy , we will see.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:30 am

Liriano was pulled after allowing five hits and five walks (one intentional) in his brief stint. It could have been worse, but the bullpen bailed him out of a bases-loaded, one out situation after he left. Liriano clearly has plenty of work to do before returning to the majors.

BYE BYE this week. No more taking up a valuable roster spot anymore. He'll be lucky if he is back by the all-star break. I'll do a write-up about me dropping him this coming Sunday in a few days.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:20 am

Im with you Gordon, i should have dropped him this week.Roster spots are so valuable and i cut a guy i already want back.Im still in shock with this whole Liriano nightmare.Atleast i didnt spend 26 dollars for him in the auction.I think in a auction league for that kind of money it hurts twice as much as someone taking him in the 8th round.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:26 am

thankfully i never started Loseriano this year.

[ April 30, 2008, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:27 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Im with you Gordon, i should have dropped him this week.Roster spots are so valuable and i cut a guy i already want back.Im still in shock with this whole Liriano nightmare.Atleast i didnt spend 26 dollars for him in the auction.I think in a auction league for that kind of money it hurts twice as much as someone taking him in the 8th round. somebody spent $26???

[ April 30, 2008, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:51 am

I have Lirianowinsnoksnovalue on my draftchamp team. That skid mark is permanent for me !

[ April 30, 2008, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: Quahogs ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:00 pm

Originally posted by eddiejag:

Im with you Gordon, i should have dropped him this week.Roster spots are so valuable and i cut a guy i already want back.Im still in shock with this whole Liriano nightmare.Atleast i didnt spend 26 dollars for him in the auction.I think in a auction league for that kind of money it hurts twice as much as someone taking him in the 8th round. Eddie, I spent $23 on Liriano. I'm not worried and you won't win the AL auction league this year. He will haunt you the whole second half of the year.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:24 am

MIN AAA Liriano, Francisco 4.1 5 4 4 5 3 7.56 L (0-1); 94 pitches, 51 strikes

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:28 am

Originally posted by UFS:

MIN AAA Liriano, Francisco 4.1 5 4 4 5 3 7.56 L (0-1); 94 pitches, 51 strikes couple days late with that one john!

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:33 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

MIN AAA Liriano, Francisco 4.1 5 4 4 5 3 7.56 L (0-1); 94 pitches, 51 strikes couple days late with that one john!

[/QUOTE]That was last night....

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:39 am

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

MIN AAA Liriano, Francisco 4.1 5 4 4 5 3 7.56 L (0-1); 94 pitches, 51 strikes couple days late with that one john!

[/QUOTE]That was last night.... [/QUOTE]you would cut him if you had him, wouldn't you?